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Remembrance
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2006-09-01 15:08:53 (edited 2007-01-07 21:09:15)
"Have you ever realized how insignificant your existence is on this planet? I have..."
-Suzumiya Haruhi

Picture, if you will, a massive football stadium that can hold 30,000 people. Build 100 of those, and fill them to maximum capacity. Now build 20 around each one of those hundred, and fill them to maximum capacity. Now, for each of those 20 you built, build an additional 10 around every one, and fill those to maximum capacity.

You have now achieved in collecting 1% of the human population.

You are one out of 6,000,000,000 people. What are you going to do to make sure you're remembered? To quote another anime,

"If you're not remembered you never existed."

How are you going to be remembered? Are you going to be remembered by three people as "That quiet kid over there," or something more? Gendou will be remembered as the creator of gendou.com, one of the coolest sites around; George Bush will be remembered as the president of the USA (and remembered for his mispronounced comments, grammatical errors, and suspicous decisions); How will you be remembered? Do you want to be remembered as someone special? As s/he who saved three people's lives, but did nothing more than that? As the conqueror of the world?

Or will you be remembered as the rapist of the century? The worst serial killer known to man? Or something even worse?

Be someone to be remembered; Do things that will make others remember and think "I'm glad I could know that person, for without him/her I never would have ______." Make use of your free time to craft a future for yourself, and carve out your doings in history.

Think of how many billions of people are no longer remembered; peasants, slaves, even ordinary citizens that simply aren't known. It's nearly as if they didn't exist; their works may be here, but they seem to never have come.

Doesn't that make you want to go down in children's history books? Even cooler is if they only knew your online name... Imagine reading in a history textbook:

"On October 7th, 2054, a man who was known only as "Gendou" to millions of people changed the world; through his years of opening, maintaining, and upgrading a simple online forum, it obtained enough members that 1243 of them, all who enjoyed helping others, formed a clan called "Gendounia" and worked to remove all poverty, sadness, loneliness, and anything else they could find. From those 1243, they changed the entire world.

Therefore, a man simply known as Gendou changed the world."

Put your name there in place of Gendou's there for a second... Sure, I don't think anything that extreme will ever happen by any human, but even something halfway similar to that is something to aspire to.

Will you be remembered as someone to look up to? As someone that should never have existed? Or simply forgotten along with everyone else?


Re: Remembrance
Link | by on 2006-09-01 15:31:11 (edited 2006-09-01 15:36:00)
Personally, as long as I am remembered by the one I love that's all that matters to me. I couldn't care less if I am remembered as a great man or never remembered at all. I'll be dead afterall, won't matter to me when I'm six feet under.

I'll live my life as normal, if I do something that people remember me for then that's great, but if I don't then that doesn't really bother me too much.

If I were to be remembered for something I would want to be remembered for helping people or for being who I really am. A kind, wise or loving person. Just something that one or two people would think about when they learn about me, nothing on a world wide scale.

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Re: Remembrance
Link | by hoheshii on 2006-09-01 15:56:50
That problem is confusing, I worked it out to 99,000,000 people in the stadiums on one try, and 94 500 000 on another try. Yet 1% of 6,000,000,000 is only 60,000,000.

Why not just say 2000 stadiums holding 30,000 people?
(Which is roughly the equvalent of twice the population of Canada.)

Wise Man says: "Take a dog off its leash and it will wander."

Re: Remembrance
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2006-09-01 16:58:19
@Johnathon: Yeah, I don't wanna be remembered as some great guy that changed the earth either. I'd prefer to teach man how to fish instead of giving man a fish ^_~

@Engineer: Eh, I was worried about the math there. I was a little rushed, so all I did was 100 x 20 x 10 XD;

And 2000 is a number that's hard to comprehend, so I tried to use smaller numbers so people might be able to grasp the numbers better XD


Re: Remembrance
Link | by craving for moar on 2006-09-02 06:14:25 (edited 2006-09-02 06:16:39)
Personally, I'd rather be remembered by my friends and family as the person who brought smiles on their faces, who stood by them through thick and thin, who shared good moments with them, than to be remembered as the one who masterminded the greatest conquest of all time, or the one who rape-slayed a thousand girls and gotten away with it.

What if I jump out
of this speeding jeepney?
Fly without wings
Reach for the grey-painted heaven
And out into the sea of infinity?



Re: Remembrance
Link | by karuzo on 2006-09-02 06:20:42
for me....

nothing.... a mere shadow

personaly i like to be known who brought acceptance about death and life....

i dont like to be known with any positive traits

it irritates me...

falling is nothing for us human were destined to it

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Re: Remembrance
Link | by angelyuki on 2006-09-02 07:21:35
i dont think our existence is insignificant. if i didnt exist, things will be different in this world. my parents will be different, my other siblings will be different, my friends, my lover, strangers i helped or talked to, even my cats will be different. its just because if we exist, we live, thus we change everything around us. we affect other people's lives, help them, teach them something, change them, argue with them etc etc. and so our existences are marked in other people's existence.

as for the significance of our existence in the whole planet, yes, we do influence how our world goes round. if you plant one tree, you'll add to the number or trees planted to increase oxygen production and such. and if you throw away something in the sea, you'll add to the number of sea pollutants.
remember, "one grain of rice can tip the scale" -Mulan

as for remembrance, being remembered for something great would be awesome, like being remembered for the first person who discover AIDS vaccines or something, but im very content to be remembered by my loved ones for what i did to them and for being me ^_^


Re: Remembrance
Link | by Immortal on 2006-09-02 09:53:38
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your whole existance will be gone when you die. the people who remembered you will also die and be forgotten....the vanities of life...

I don't believe that...

we are in control of our life, not fate or other people. its up to us how we would leave a mark in the world which we are living. if we wont do anything then we will be just a normal soul that didn't live their life to the fullest...


Never forget the one whom you truly loved the most. People change but memories will never fade

Re: Remembrance
Link | by D-ninja on 2006-09-02 19:35:32 (edited 2006-09-02 19:35:53)
Yes a lain quote, I love that quote. The followup quote for that one is: Memory is mearly a record...you just need to rewrite that record [to suit you]." I'd be happy if I was remembered for 10 years, after that I don't care. If my name never goes down in history or if I never do anything that will warant my remeberance, then I'll simply become one those countless(seriusly you can only estimate how many) numbers of people who have worked to do thngs but their names are never known. If I am never remembered as an individual then I only hope that in some way I help shape the future.

"Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives. When he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?." However if I never exsisted then what would others have done in my absence. I happy just having my works survive, because whop cares if people remember your name so long as what you do survives. No one knows the names of those who built the colloseum, or the great wall, but we see what they did every day. How long will a name last, it's a word and words are forgotten left as footnotes in history books. Doing something like building a dam, or saving a life ensure that what you did is remembered. Isn't what is done more important than who does it? If everyone carred about who did what rather than what they they did we would get very little done, sadly that is how the world works most of the time. If I do one thing that changes somone's life I won't care if they remember who or even realize that I have changed them. I'm happy with just doing that one thing for that one person.

Re: Remembrance
Link | by psoplayer on 2006-09-02 21:07:40
I know I will be remembered by the people near me in my life. If I end up doing something that will have even more people remembering my name after I'm gone, people I've never even met, that's cool. It's not like I'm going to make that my goal in life, but I wouldn't mind being a little bit more than just 'some guy' to 99.9% of the world's population.


Re: Remembrance
Link | by hoheshii on 2006-09-02 21:20:35
There is a poem called "Ozimandias".

One of the themes of this poem is "being forgotten"

You can read it here if you like.

It is quite a nice poem to read.

Wise Man says: "Take a dog off its leash and it will wander."

Re: Remembrance
Link | by Wolf on 2006-09-03 01:11:37
I will not be remembered but the ideals I stand for will ring true until the day man ceases to exist on this planet. I am comfortable knowing that fact. We all have a ripple effect on the world. You gotta figure that we cannot deny that you exist and that there will never be another you. Just being here for even an instant changes the world we live in and so on and so forth. You may not be the person that does somethnig great but you mat have contributed to the spark to do that great thing.

Re: Remembrance
Link | by MiCHiYo μ on 2006-09-03 01:44:50 (edited 2006-09-03 01:45:02)
@engineer:

i know that poem... one of my favourite memorable ones. took it up in english class two years ago. ^^

it's just that, as incosiderate little human beings that we are, we tend to think of things that seem to be the most important things today… but we don’t even realise that all our bragging and self-centeredness will only be a faded memory in the future.




i want to be remembered not for what i was, but for who i was.
...not for the projects i have done, but for the results and the outcomes.
...not for the achievements, but for the success.
...not because i made a difference, but because i touched lives.


-michiyo-



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Re: Remembrance
Link | by noobie on 2006-09-03 02:17:47
That's cool. But I echo Wolf's thoughts: Be remembered not for your name but for your works. If people remembered me as being the only Singaporean to work in Sunrise Studios, I won't want it. If people remembered me as one of the people who had a hand in creating one of the greatest anime series of all times, why not?

Re: Remembrance
Link | by Jomunga on 2006-09-03 17:41:47
What I care about are the people who I remember, not the ones who remember me. If I were to die I would only want Honeyko to remember me. After she dies I would love to erased from all records. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me besides Honeyko, so I don't care what they remember either.

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Re: Remembrance
Link | by hello on 2006-09-03 18:33:37
I'd prefer to be rembered by anyone. But does it really matter if you are remembered? Once you become dead, you will not be able to see yourself be known. Its not like you can come from the dead and ask some stranger "Do you know *name* ?"

No.

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