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Oresama - Minna-Desu! This is the development and planning thread for Gendou's own Visual Novel project. This thread is for discussion, asking/answering questions, getting staff members and finding out what this is and how we intend to complete this project to make a full on visual novel. We are in need of Artists, Coders, and Music Makers! We dont want talent, we want people willing to help! This isn't about being the best, it's about showing what we got! Even if you think you're a novice, all we need is people willing to cooperate. You might come out of this better at the skill than you where before. We're in especially great need of artists ;) ~News~ September 21, 09 -Not Dead! WOw, how long was it since the last update? Well, for the 1 to 1/2 persons who have been waiting on an update, here it is! Right now, some of the arc writers are starting to make moves to beginning writing arcs. We also have to do some collab with the coding department so we can do some basic coding before they go in and do all the really complicated things. At the moment, the project is in hiatus. Which is basically we're slowed down a bit... I mean, A LOT due to general life. Like the update above, we try to get a bit done as free time admits. Hopefully, everyone will be able to have something to work on once the arcs start to get submitted. ~Upcoming Dates~ N/A (Again?) ~Links of Use~ Kazegan Website Main Terror's Guide to Renpy Code for Arc Writers ~Character Codes for Script~ Aya → ay Tyson → ty Lax → la Uncle Sam → us Rei → rei Cathy → ca Kit → kit (Based off of Mokona's competition story and the winning entry. NOTE! Things may end up being changed as more is determined) Aya couldn't have the worst luck. What happens when you wake up one day, a 16 year old girl in high school, sitting atop a hospital bed - and have absolutely no memory of how you got there? That is the sad situation she's faced with. Her unfortunate memory loss caused by a certain "He" mentioned in her diaries. A previous life with a boyfriend she caught kissing another girl, then to be hit by a car and put into a coma; would remembering this mystery person really be worth it? ~Known Characters~ Aya Age: 16 Occupation: Student A girl who ran away from home, only to be hit by a car and put into a coma. When she wakes up she has no memories of who she was. Aya hopes to regain herself with only her diaries, and precious friends and family to refer to. Most of her family and friends expected her to be confused and withdrawn when she woke up from her coma. That was true, for maybe the first week. Aya according to therapeutic observation is a kind and open girl. With a hint of childishness... though that could be because of the amnesia. Reading back in her diary, the original Aya seemed to be such a different person. If this her second chance at life or is she simply fated to fill in the blanks of the one she forgot? Tyson - "If you're in a pinch, I'll be there!" Age: 16 Occupation: Student An outgoing boy with an open personality. He took his responsibility as one of Aya's friends help her out in a her time of need, as as such: is (almost) always the first one who happens to be there to help. If Aya and her group of friends end up doing something odd. then more than likely they where all dragged into it by Tyson. Tyson has a passion for his truck, which he's invested a good amount of time and money into. He's also good friends with Aya's cousin, Lax. Thanks to various odd and end relationships in elementary school, he's friends with some of the strongest at school. Amongst this secret order Tyson is ranked '4'; for reasons Aya could only begin to comprehend. Like Lax, Tyson has his own share of choose-able followers, but seems to stick around Aya and her friends most of the time. Whether it be something he's always done or just special attention given due to her situation is something Aya has yet to inquire. Could the empty feelings she feels towards him be because of her not remembering their time together- or something else? Lax - "It's alright as long as you don't make a fool of yourself." Age: 16 Occupation: Student Aya's cousin, cool and collected as well as a hit with the girls, though he finds the little quirk more of a nuisance than anything else. Tyson as well as Lax's other friends call him by the affectionate nickname: "Laxative" much to Lax's own dismay. Tyson admits Lax's "silent and collected" attitude works on females at their school just as good as it works in the movies. Lax spends much of his time volunteering at the library, largely for his skill in defrauding the various ways students try to attack the school's computer network. He works a protective labor of love... or rather was forcibly retained as the school network's security dog. Because of this, the school's "Hacking" club declared Lax to be their ultimate rival, though they usually end up losing and get pounded up by Tyson and Lax's group of friends. He made sure to be there when Aya first woke up and also helped her readjust to school life, but recently he seems to be trying to keep his distance from her, -why? Uncle Sam Age: 47 Occupation: Uncle Aya's good and loving uncle. Not to be mistaken for the man on the recruitment posters! Cathy Ashlander Age: 17 Occupation: Student - Hacking Club Member The secretary and general damage control member of the hacking club. She generally keeps track of things. Amongst the members of the group, she seems to take on the most responsibility as to the fact the head of the club is dead obsessed with defeating Lax, and the supervising teacher couldn't care less about the club. She gave up on trying to beat Lax and infiltrating the library servers a long time ago; as in, she gave up the moment the idea came up in the first place. Nonetheless- despite the groups sudden obsession with the task at hand, she does her best to keep things running, or even more so keep things looking normal. She's also somewhat educated in first aid, as due to the many hostile encounters with Lax's friends. Aside from the club, she also has interest in new and unusual gadgets "Kit" Ashlander Age: 15 Occupation: Student - Hacking Club Member The younger of the Ashland sisters, she's also proven to be a bit of an odd duck of a character. Most of the time she seems to be a laid back free spirit -or a complete idiot in some cases, though most of her teachers say they find her completely delightful to have in class. She's also been itching to get herself into a fight- which she's had several chances in diving into. However Cathy has always been nearby to hold her back. Academically she's actually has the best grades out of anyone in the club. No one aside from her family would know her first name. 'Kit' which could be short for many things, is even listed on her ID and even the school roster. She joined the Hacking Club along with her older sister: Cathy just to tag along. But it's a simple fact that she has little no computer literacy whatsoever. Which the club found out the hard way when she destroyed one of the computers in the classroom the club uses. At the moment, we don't have much anything aside from the willingness to begin. Started in the Writer's Club/Guild, a single fleeting post became a plan to make a visual novel. We have began to roll forward with development and are building the story and separate arcs. Other departments have also began to take steps to prepare for the time when they are to be set as "active". The main story was be made by contest, Mokona4 writes a prologue to a story which the club members try to finish. The winning entry becomes the plot/main arc for the VN. Runners-up shall then write out the other arcs of the Visual Novel. We're looking for anyone willing, and even remotely skilled in the areas of: Coding: (Coding in general, specifically in the Ren'Py engine that will be used to make the VN) Artistry: (Making cgs and conversational sprites) Language: (Skill in the areas of proofreading and grammatical correction in the English language) Music: (Creating background musics for the visual novel) Unactivated/To Be Determined Staff Spots Voice Acting: (Charged with voicing all speech in the VN - Only with approval and/or lots of volunteers) Website: (Creation and maintainment of a website for the project - Once approved, and when we have enough content to warrant it's creation) Beta-Testing: (Works so that all arcs are playable, and the game is compatible, works to address bug issues prior to release - Once a complete beta is complete. Likely to be composed of staff and volunteers) Currently, I'm assuming we aren't going to make a full voice edition unless lots of people come forward to volunteer making it. The inclusion of H-Scenes HAS BEEN NEGATED AND WONT BE DISCUSSED ON THE GENDOU THREADS! If you want to help out then please say so. (whether it be by PM or Post) All help at this point is being accepted. However, each department is to be headed by certain members within the department. (Namely, artistry). Department heads will be decided by vote or competition... or by who's available. Please note that, along with basic knowledge in the field, to join we need members who are willing to see the project to the end (as long as it may take) and are willing to communicate with the other people in their department and the rest of staff as required. Willingness to communication in my opinion, is even more important than actual skill in the field itself. Structure The game's development team will be divided into a few separate departments, responsible for creating the individual parts of the game. Each department is composed of all the people who do the department's related work. Furthermore, each department will have a head, responsible for coordination within the department, and reporting progress, and relaying what needs to be done. In short, more or less a communications specialist. The heads for certain departments will be determined by contest. The winner becomes head, while all the runners up become secondaries and assistants. Participation in the said contest isn't mandatory. If one just wishes to help out and don't want the responsibility then that is fine. However, we would still like an example of one's capabilities for the head to guess one's strength and weaknesses. (probably, the only department that'll have this is for the artistic department.) Along with Heads of Departments, there are also Supervisors, mainly, they're in charge of overseeing and acting as a mediator between departments when there is collaberation. Also act to head IM discussions, and track progress within the departments. The supervisor positions are also open to people willing to volnunteer. Quaility/Beta testing only comes once we have something to test. Other smaller sub-departments will exist within each said department. Basically, sub-departments are departments that will appear, and dissapear once said department has finished it's job. More or less, mini departments represent the smaller things that need to be done and the people who make themselves or are assigned to be responsible for it. For example, the proofreading department of the Story Board Department will only come about once the texts for the story are submitted. The department is dissolved once all proofreading is done. Here are our list of working staff: Active Department Members Link (Head of Coding) (Congrats! That was fast!) Basil (Coding) Terror (Coding + Head of Voice Acting) Faiz! (Coding) Darky (Head of Art) Jejechi (Art) Lockey (Head of Music) Schwarz (Music) Leonard (Music) Ishi (Music + Voice Acting Member) Mokona (Head of Story Board - Head Judge of Story Submission Contest + Arc Writer) Ugopetamia (Project Head Supervisor - Head of Text Editing Sub-department of Story Board + Arc Writer) KM Revolution (Arc Writer) Rai (Arc Writer) Wheezze (English Proofreading) Jonathan (Head of Website + English Proofreading Volunteer + Voice Acting Member) Sayu (Website + Voice Acting Member) Shuyin (Website + Voice Acting Member) Candidates for To Be Decided/Announced Departments Pame (Voice Acting) Appreciated Supporters Dangel Ichi-san Ayame Doomlight ~Timeline~ As of right now, I have made a sort of timeline related towards. What needs to be done. In the spoiler, "Phases" are listed, annoting what will be done during the said phase. There is likely much more to each individual phase and section of development. Just so you see how we intend to have all the departments work with one another and move the VN's progress along in near unison. Each phase may take maybe a month or tow, or even a year to get by, depending on the amount of work connected to the tasks and how active the departments are. The Project Development Levels are measured into 8 Different Parts. Click Timeline for spoiler content. Anyone who has experience or interest in helping out, please consider helping out. it is my sincere hope that this Visual Novel can be completed as a true Gendou collaboration project. May gendou members, and other gendou.com clubs please consider assisting.   |
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Interesting project. I wish I could be a major part of it (the actual artwork and coding for example) but unfortunately I am horrible and not skilled enough in those areas respectively. I would be interested in auditioning in Voice Work (I already tried out for Terror of Deaths project but that kind of ended up petering out). I was thinking about entering the story portion, but I'm a little insecure about my writing and story-telling abilities. ^^; I'm not exactly a confident writer. Just about the only thing I really can apply for other than that is the Website creation and whatnot. I have some skill in that, and come this September I will be fully in to a Website Administration program in college (since the website won't go up until after the project has gotten to full steam then I should already have some progress in the program by the time it's ready to go up).  |
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I could very well be interested in Voice Work if anyone liked it, xD. I would also be interested with anything involving the story and coming up with any ideas that may be needed. And also, while my skills may not be elite or super awesome like others, I have some experience at least in managing websites and such. If I can think of anything else, I'll be sure to let you guys know :O 
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Nice! People are coming in to volunteer! But the biters' goin' with the web page. I wish someone with Ren'Py experience joins. I can't possibly do the coding all by myself. By the way, exceptional work, Ugo!     |
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This looks interseting. Well let's see.. Ugo I could probably do the website or voice. Mhmm yeah eaither one of those two I could do definatly 
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That sounds interesting ^-^ I would love to try for voice acting ^-^ |
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Ah-... I haven even sweeped the post for spelling errors and there's already people volunteering! Well, we still are in desperate need of people for the other two departments... but, at least we're at a start! @ Jon: Aye des, well, that's one vote to creat a full voice edition. If we get enough people, a Voice Acting department may be created if we have enough volunteers. The introduction arc should then be ready. If we have enough people, we'll release 2 versions of the teaser, a No-Voice and a Full Voice teaser. Could encourage people to want to do voice acting. If the need for more arcs is needed, then by all means feel free submit even a basic story idea. We'll needs at least many ideas to make several unique individual character arcs. Great! Being a student in that area I highly think you'd be appropriate to head the Website Creation team. Basil-san is also a student, but in game coding, I think. Guess we might vote on it. @ Shuyin: Okay, one more vote for a Voice acting edition(?). And yeah, if the VN is released and becomes popular, we'll consider the creation of a full voice edition, to be released as a patch and/or fullgame. Like stated with jon before, ideas are accepted. Discussions related to the story, it's themes, and types of characters may occur on the forum or via IM amongst the working authors. Even if you dont intend to write an entire story arc, we'll still appreciate any input you have. Great, It's looking like website management dept is looking like it'll be well staffed. @ Basil: Thanks! Maybe we should think about doing recruiting. It could be as simple as posting up a link to the thread on your siggy, and posting around. Since not everyone looks around the other section. Also, eh, just not I also addressed a question or two to you in the Writer's Club Thread. Might be important... @ Sayu: Ah, I just saw your post over Pame's... wah! Lots of votes for voice acting!!! Okay, it would appear the website thing is very well covered. Thanks for volunteering. @ Pame: Ah, well that's great! More voice acting votes, maybe we really can think about doing a full voice edition! Along with that, this is looking far out, but maybe there might be people interested in the singing/karaoke club to try to make an opening song for the VN's opening and endings? E-eh... it might be much to ask, but the option is open to those out there willing! @ Jon + Shuyin + Pame + Sayu : I'll be sure to contact you both when the time comes. Right now, you both can also still help out with the project right now. There's lots of things about the VN we're still deciding on, I would very much appreciate if you two give your input on these important decisions when the time comes. Also, you could also help judge the artist and storyline competitions when those come up to decide the head of the art department and which story will serve as the main. |
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very Interesting... I hope you post more information about and I'll find what i can do   |
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That looks great Ugo! You're really working hard for this ^^ for the position... I'd most definitely go with either coding or artist dept I always wanted to learn coding in Ren'py but sadly I lack motivation to get really learning.. And in terms of artistry... well I'm an average artist at most... I'm quite interested in joining, but I'm not sure I'll have free time for this yet.. Dx --- Voice acting? xD wow it would be great if this one would be a full-voiced VN... Makes me more pumped up ^^ 
血潮は鉄で 心は硝子。 幾たびの戦場を越えて不敗。 ただの一度も敗走はなく、 ただの一度も理解されない。 彼の者は常に独り 剣の丘で勝利に酔う。 故に、生涯に意味はなく。 その体は、きっと剣で出来ていた。 [*] Darky-chan <3 Archer |
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Hmm... I will ty my best to help as a writer.... Just give me time |
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interesting project here ;] I also planned this once in the CG Club?! but since there are not enough people to make the actual VN I stop working on it... I wanted to join but I think I would pass on this one... I might disband myself in the middle... but if you need some help within the field of checking CG or anything related within drawings just PM me ;] 
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It seems to be getting alot of attention, which looks pretty awesome! And that's great Ugo, Just contact with me with anything you'll need. I suppose I should also drop by the Writers Club and join up! I was thinking about it, with me being a writer... And now that Im wanting to get in on this, I shouldnt waste anymore time! :D
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weks!! 0_o me as the head of music??? well I propose a resume or judging ^^ before i'm being appointed to...... since (I only play melody in guitar, but have a lot of music in my lappy) so if anyone are better in writing score or making an orches or even play proper musical instrument feel free to be the head of music.. (interest about the job, but I have lack of something) so if convert to game mode (silly mode on) it's half HP condition but as long the music department doesn't compose original music (just taking an already made music) then I'm willing to be the head ^^ If not maybe a contest would do ^^ but right now I accept the position until someone better than me appear ^^ 
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@ Schaz: Right. Well, if you do have any skills in coding, making music or artwork then those would be areas we really need people in at the moment. @ Karuzo: I know you'll do your best Karuzo. ^^^ @ Darky: Hah, certainly not as much work as what'll need to get done when the project starts rolling. I'm only being intricate with the planning stages so we don't get stuck later in the future. Hopefully the organization may make progress go by even a bit more efficiently. Whee~! Person interested in helping in the Coding or Artistry department. I do understand this is something that'll take quite some time to finish... But at the least there's staff. If we do have a full voice edition, one or two members from the auditions may have to do proper editing of the sound clips. (Or the music department, if possible). Actors will also have to have the capability to make clean sounding voice clips. For the ever looming question of the H-scenes possibility, actors can also vouch not to voice those if they are made. ^^' @ Shuyin: Okay! An extra author'll mean another possible arc can be written! Contact Mokona for specifics on the contest, or just look a few posts back from the latest post in the writer's club thread. @ Ichi: Okay, I suppose that you could be like, along the lines of an artistic supervisor. Considering you hail from the CG club, I guess the smallest things you can help out with is okay final quality levels of the CG work for coding, and point artists into the right direction when they get confused/unable to do something with CG software? Would that be alright to ask? @ Key: Alright. Yes, heads of the Music and Art departments will be decided most likely by contest. Hahah, I'm kinda not hoping that we don't end up recycling other already made tracks... but if that need comes up due to shortage of skilled people then I suppose we don't have much choice. ^^' (Unless what you're talking about may be original music you've already made) |
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At last~!but sorry first for not being active recently (on writer's...) but well I'm ready to be the writing engine! YEAH! haha anyway I'm sorry Basil I'm still learning the Ren'py... (haven't downloaded it the conection in my home is so...... small I mean slow) so I'll try the Ren'py first before I could 100% sure on getting the coding....-_-... so yeah... for now I'll be accepting as the story submission contest participant... @Schaz: whoa... we meet here eh? Hope you can join us! @Pame: If I didn't wrong, you are Pame that win the song contest right? Yeah Ugo right.... maybe you could help us creating the opening song? maybe.... @ all : whoa... tyooo many person.... makes me overjoyed... even this could make Mokona fell unconscious... hehe... tooo much eh? anyway koko kara Yoroshiku onegaishimasu! (From now and on I'm asking for your support!)  |
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@Darky Join the department that you're most confident your skills qualify you. @Faiz Well, I'm still learning Ren'Py too, so we could collaborate, send in the game code, and complement each other's work. I mean, if I specialize in a certain area, I can do that while you do what you specialize in. But if you want to be solely a writer, then you're free to do so. @Ugo Once the story's been decided, I think we'll need a plot flowchart to decide how the different arcs follow each other. |
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Question. When will i be mad lol. If you know me i probably wouldn't XDD. But anyways lol. I'll help in anyway i can. ~Doomlight  
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@ Faiz: If you can manage to make sense out of the Ren'py engine then we'll have another vital coder. Best of luck to both of you! @ Basil: Yes. I'm guessing there'll be a general beginning arc that will introduce the characters. Choices made in that arc will move the focus of the novel towards certain characters, which stand as a middle. The character and ending you end up with is determined by the available choices towards the end arc. @ Doom: Alright! You could probably help out with making another story arc and proofreading. May you also be interested take a supervisor position? Largely to oversee collaborations between departments. @ All: Wow, in a single day we got lots of volunteers. Well, I can safely say we have enough people to cover a website. Still if anyone where knows other people skilled in working art, coding, or interesting in making music, kindly tell them we're out here, in need of talent. Considering the story isn't down yet need for staff isn't that urgent as of yet, but getting out our existence now will help as well as be highly appreciated at very excessive levels. Also, now's an okay time to start determining other questions. There's lots of things that we still need to know what to do. Anyone who has specific questions can start throwing them out now for discussion, everyone's open to put out their opinion. These questions'll need to be determined before development starts. So, to those who are interested, questions I have: Questions: For the visual novel, should we create a full voiced edition, and if so, how will it be done? Will we include assorted minigames for the VN? or will it just be a linear text game? Should we have a limit to how many character arcs to be made? Will the VN have H-Content, or be a regular all ages edition? Should we have the visual novel arcs have a uniting theme? (Such as Clannad's overshadowing theme on family) If so, what? Should we have an objective date for the project to be finished? |
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My opinion For the visual novel, should we create a full voiced edition, and if so, how will it be done? (for now let's not do this... doing this full voiced will be more work than what we could do... let's take it one step at a time.) Will we include assorted minigames for the VN? or will it just be a linear text game? (simple minigames will be nice, but text base will do just fine. if people really drawn to the story, they would care less about the minigame... but for a reliever it would be nice) Should we have a limit to how many character arcs to be made? (yes we should, and I propose more specific and detail story, I mean the environment(space or earth, school or work), the timeline(future, past, present), etc, etc oh and genre [male harem or female harem??]) Will the VN have H-Content, or be a regular all ages edition? (I Prefer not having it...) Should we have the visual novel arcs have a uniting theme? (Such as Clannad's overshadowing theme on family) If so, what? (if yes then it will be more easier to control the story, but more constraint to the author, either way I'm fine) Should we have an objective date for the project to be finished? (isn't it going to be christmas present???) my question: as stated above, need more detail on the story, as in time, environment, occupation, problem and all OH and I recommend reading "the world god only knows" manga some enlightenment on sim game and I need your thought (all of you) about the music... what would you envision about it
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For the visual novel, should we create a full voiced edition, and if so, how will it be done? =>agreed with lock~san.... after we knew our talent... we could fix the mute novels become colorful...^-^ Will we include assorted minigames for the VN? or will it just be a linear text game? =>I guess We do need one... but just like what basil said... include a skip action button... (help for those who only chase our story...) Should we have a limit to how many character arcs to be made? =>of course! maybe for the first time we shouldn't eager to make more than three... especially if we want this finished before Christmas... Will the VN have H-Content, or be a regular all ages edition? =>NOOOOO!! even I'm only 16 years old! Not yet!! and didn't want to!!X~X Should we have the visual novel arcs have a uniting theme? (Such as Clannad's overshadowing theme on family) If so, what? =>um... I'm netral in this one... be sure to be careful if it was used ... we don't wanted our present ruined of small things such as Copyright right? Should we have an objective date for the project to be finished? =>ummm... isn't Lockey right? @Lockey hmm... about the music... as long as it is good and fit for the situation it is okay for me...^-^ while about the story it is based on Mokona's right? so we'll wait...^-^ edited oups... sorry @Basil: 10-4... I'm going to download it first... |