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WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by gendou on 2006-12-26 12:42:25 (edited 2006-12-26 12:52:45)
The user has been lying about her health, claiming she is having surgery and has a 43% chance of dying, etc. This is most certainly a lie. At 03:52:25 gendou.com time, she posted a message saying her surgery was in 1 hour. Look at the log entries and see for yourself.
26/Dec/2006:02:58:46 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:03:52:25 POST /forum/reply.php?thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:03:52:26 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349320
26/Dec/2006:03:52:28 GET /images/zap_sig.gif
26/Dec/2006:03:53:23 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:03:53:33 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15585&ent=349319
26/Dec/2006:03:54:56 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:28:45 GET /
26/Dec/2006:05:28:45 GET /
26/Dec/2006:05:28:49 GET /include/navigation.htc
26/Dec/2006:05:28:52 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:29:06 GET /forum/search.php?page=1
26/Dec/2006:05:29:15 GET /forum/search.php?page=2
26/Dec/2006:05:29:19 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349320
26/Dec/2006:05:29:19 GET /images/zap_sig.gif
26/Dec/2006:05:30:38 POST /forum/login.php
26/Dec/2006:05:30:39 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349320
26/Dec/2006:05:30:48 GET /forum/reply.php?thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:05:31:25 GET /forum/reply.php?thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:05:31:26 GET /include/navigation.htc
26/Dec/2006:05:33:01 POST /forum/reply.php?thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:05:33:01 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349362#349362
26/Dec/2006:05:33:02 GET /images/zap_sig.gif
26/Dec/2006:05:33:07 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:05:33:22 GET /forum/edituser.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:05:33:34 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:05:33:35 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349362
26/Dec/2006:05:33:37 GET /forum/edit.php?ent=349362
26/Dec/2006:05:33:47 POST /forum/edit.php?ent=349362
26/Dec/2006:05:33:48 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349362#349362
26/Dec/2006:05:34:14 GET /forum/edit.php?ent=349362
26/Dec/2006:05:34:20 POST /forum/edit.php?ent=349362
26/Dec/2006:05:34:21 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349362#349362
26/Dec/2006:05:35:00 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:35:22 GET /amusic/
26/Dec/2006:05:35:25 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:35:25 GET /
26/Dec/2006:05:35:45 GET /forum/edituser.php
26/Dec/2006:05:39:48 POST /forum/edituser.php
26/Dec/2006:05:39:50 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:05:39:50 GET /include/navigation.htc
26/Dec/2006:05:40:00 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:40:04 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349363
26/Dec/2006:05:40:05 GET /images/zap_sig.gif
26/Dec/2006:05:40:39 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:41:26 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:05:46:23 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:05:46:27 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349363
26/Dec/2006:05:46:35 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:06:08:26 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:06:08:32 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:06:08:32 GET /include/navigation.htc
26/Dec/2006:06:10:49 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349389
26/Dec/2006:06:12:30 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:06:22:18 GET /
26/Dec/2006:06:22:18 GET /
26/Dec/2006:06:22:23 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:06:22:28 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349392
26/Dec/2006:06:24:51 GET /forum/logout.php
26/Dec/2006:06:24:52 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349392
26/Dec/2006:06:25:00 GET /forum/userlist.php
26/Dec/2006:06:25:09 GET /forum/userlist.php?page=10
26/Dec/2006:06:25:16 GET /forum/userlist.php?page=20
26/Dec/2006:06:25:23 GET /forum/userlist.php?page=30
26/Dec/2006:06:25:33 GET /forum/userlist.php?page=40
26/Dec/2006:06:25:39 GET /forum/userlist.php?type=0&filter=akatsuki&days=0
26/Dec/2006:06:25:51 GET /forum/userlist.php?filter=akatsuki&page=1
26/Dec/2006:06:26:00 GET /forum/userlist.php?type=0&filter=akatsuki17&days=0
26/Dec/2006:06:26:44 GET /forum/userlist.php?type=1&filter=akatsuki&days=0
26/Dec/2006:06:26:51 GET /forum/userlist.php?type=2&filter=akatsuki&days=0
26/Dec/2006:06:26:58 GET /forum/userlist.php?type=2&filter=akatsuki17@gmail.com&days=0
26/Dec/2006:06:27:03 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:06:27:32 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:06:27:39 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349399
26/Dec/2006:06:49:21 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:06:49:55 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349399
26/Dec/2006:07:40:24 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:07:40:37 GET /forum/search.php?filter=&top=&days=0&name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:07:40:43 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349362
In addition, the entry highlighted in red (you will have to scroll down to see it) is when she says "i'm going in now, this is the hospital's computer..."
This is clearly a lie, because my logs indicate she was using her PSP from her home connection the whole time.

I am surprised someone would create an elaborate lie like this to get attention. Wait, never-mind, I am NOT surprised. Some people are lonely and sad during the holidays. Lonely sad people are capable of doing anything to make themselves feel loved, even resorting to overt lies to attract attention and sympathy. While I am sympathetic with this sad lonely person, I am also outraged that they would lie like this.

Akatsuki has been banned for her lies.


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 12:45:52 (edited 2006-12-26 12:49:22)
Thanks for reporting this Gendou. I have some talking to do to find out for myself.

@Gendou- Your sure about this correct?

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by gendou on 2006-12-26 12:52:08
The log entries were copy-pasted and the IP address was the search parameter.
You can, of course, draw your own conclusions based on the facts.
But one thing is for sure: she was not in surgery when she said she was, and she was not at a hospital when she said she was. It is, of course, possible that she will have some surgery later, but I doubt it. There is a clear pathology here of a chronic lier.


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 12:54:31 (edited 2006-12-26 12:56:21)
no wonder that posts suddenly dissapeared...the log entry 26/Dec/2006:05:33:01 POST /forum/reply.php?thr=15663 didn't change alright. if she was indeed in a hospital that ip would be diferent.


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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 12:54:30
I see. It would appear I have work to do. If this is really true, then I have just lost any and all trust for anyone.

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:00:30 (edited 2006-12-26 13:03:54)
@darksamurai777
don't jump to early conclusions when it comes to trust. all people aren't perfect, just like her she must be help instead of condeming people's trust.


RAMPAGE GHOST

Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:06:24
@Denpar:Don't talk to jonathon that way, he has enough trouble as it is.

@Gendou:Will there be a date where she will be unbanned? or will it be permanent?

and how did you get the psp IP? was it wireless?(yeah, I'm not sure how the system works if it goes down to protables)

@Jonathon:Hey, it's not what the truth you want, it's what you need. I hope you get well. I know this isn't the brightest moment for you.


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:13:22
I'm...so confused...and mad...and sad...depressed and betrayed...

That's it

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:19:39
@pame_chan
just scream really loud or puch a bunch of pillows and scream at the same time...it works. but my version is different...i pick fights. ^^,


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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by gendou on 2006-12-26 13:20:27
@Fratello: I do not plan on unbanning her. We will see how she responds to me, that will be a large factor. If people by and large forgive her, I might as well do so, too. But, if people are unwilling to forgive such cowardice, as I find myself, she may stay banned forever.

I know she has a PSP because of her User Agent as supplied to the server. Apparently, PSP has the ability to do wireless or ethernet connection. I do not know which she was using, nor do I care. The point is, she was clearly using her at-home connection, the same one she registered with and the only one she has ever used to access her account.


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:27:50
@admin
cheif...if i may ask? after the 26/Dec/2006:05:33:01 POST /forum/reply.php?thr=15663, she wasn't in surgery or in hospital either but she was actually watching her thread in her house all that time, right?


RAMPAGE GHOST

Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:29:10 (edited 2006-12-26 13:32:43)
I agree with Gendou. I would like to see how she explains this. It is however getting much harder for me to believe her with this kind of evidence. Maybe she did go to the hospital after posting that reply, I have no idea, but it's highly unlikely given the data.

@Gendou- I have a request, do you have the log for the post I made regarding her having cancer of the heart? I'd like to know the time at which I made that post to compare it with an e-mail I got and your log above. So if you do, please tell me the time I posted it.

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:36:51
Oh my.... HHhhhh..

... speechless...


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by gendou on 2006-12-26 13:55:04 (edited 2006-12-26 13:56:21)
At 11:38:39 AM today gendou time Jonathon reported the email about her supposed cardiac cancer.
Indeed, she was online around this time, using her PSP accessing a private DSL connection, despite the fact that she should be in recovery.
26/Dec/2006:11:25:19 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:25:27 GET /forum/logout.php
26/Dec/2006:11:25:28 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:25:37 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349621
26/Dec/2006:11:25:47 GET /forum/thread.php?page=1&thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:11:26:36 GET /forum/thread.php?page=2&thr=15663
26/Dec/2006:11:35:40 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:35:57 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:36:19 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:36:53 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:37:04 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349631
26/Dec/2006:11:38:59 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:39:28 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349639
26/Dec/2006:11:40:20 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:41:41 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:41:51 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349642
26/Dec/2006:11:42:31 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:43:13 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:43:30 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:43:37 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349645
26/Dec/2006:11:44:17 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:44:50 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:45:12 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:45:20 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349648
26/Dec/2006:11:45:51 GET /forum/user.php?name=moonstone307
26/Dec/2006:11:46:16 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:46:35 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:46:48 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:47:04 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:47:15 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349650
26/Dec/2006:11:48:07 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:48:37 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349651
26/Dec/2006:11:49:35 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:49:57 GET /forum/thread.php?thr=15663&ent=349654
26/Dec/2006:11:50:37 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:51:20 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:51:35 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:52:34 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:52:58 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:53:05 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:53:41 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:54:00 GET /forum/search.php?filter=&top=&days=0&name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:11:54:05 GET /forum/user.php?name=akatsuki17
26/Dec/2006:11:54:33 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:54:49 GET /forum/search.php
26/Dec/2006:11:57:37 GET /forum/search.php



Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 13:57:54
@admin
thanks for the answer, chief.


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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 14:04:07 (edited 2006-12-26 14:05:47)
I think I have learned all I need to know. All I need to hear now is her explination for all of this.

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by Kit on 2006-12-26 14:40:37
tsk tsk... I never thought this things actually happen on forum... IRC perhaps... It really took me by surprise....

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Until the day I find you...


Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by overlordsero on 2006-12-26 15:02:07
Im not sure what is fully going on with akatsuki but people are different.

And I read jonathon said something about not trusting people or somewhat.

and I agree with Denpar's comment to him and fratello I think your comment to Denpar wasnt really necceassary either.

Just because someone has taken away your trust doesnt mean you should not trust any other people.

Every is different if people would relize that ALOT of problems would be solved.

and also you know ANYONE on here can lie about ANYTHING.

Even I could be lieing about stuff.

With the internet you never REALLY know unless you know the person in real life.

Its amazing really how people just focus on one person and condem them when THEY do exactly the same thing.

Im sure people have lied about stuff on the internet. Granted this was a big deal and I can see how it has affected certain people but come on.

Im not going to take any sides its not my position to do so.

but enough rambling im just saying some stuff that I felt like saying.

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by on 2006-12-26 15:05:21
I'm not basing what I say off one person, but this isn't something to talk about here.

@Gendou- I got an e-mail her here. If you don't mind I'd like to talk about it through PM instead of here. If you don't mind of course.

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Re: WARNING: LIES AND DECEIT
Link | by gendou on 2006-12-26 16:11:47
Thanks for the info Jonathon.
In the email Akatsuki claims to have left her PSP with her friend, who is also her neighbor, while she is at the hospital recovering. This would explain why her account appears active during times she is at the hospital. However, according to this claim, her friend would have been the one posting replies instead of her. It is conceivable that they were in phone communication, and Akatsuki told her friend what to type, and how to login. It is much more likely, however, that this is yet another lie. After all, why would you go to all the trouble to get your friend to post, and stay up until 1:30 AM the NIGHT BEFORE SURGERY! Nobody in their right mind would do that, or let their patient/daughter do such a thing to themselves.

Furthermore, anyone with internal bleeding would have been either rushed to the emergency room, or never would have left the hospital. So, her story is unbelievable from the beginning.


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