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Education vs. Intelligence
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-07-21 21:48:47 (edited 2007-01-07 21:08:37)
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Should education be leaning more toward information (like it is now), or should it be geared toward life itself? Yeah, having information (as in why your muscles work, what wavelength colors are, etc.) can be very useful sometimes... but I see very little of actual things that help you learn more about living life to its fullest. ~Example:~ -Learning to become a teacher- You will be supplied with resources for your educating, what you should teach for what ages... but not how to deal with the students. You will be taught to teach, yet you will not be taught to handle students; and isn't that a large part of teaching? For example, I have two friends; one of whom maintains a 4.0 GPA in school (meaning straight A's, if you go by a different system), and another friend who has trouble doing math or even reading. Mr. 4.0 was playing Shadow of the Colossus (a game where you defeat your enemy while solving his unique puzzle of sorts), and within about 30 seconds he was begging me to tell him what to do. Mr. Noread was like "Dude, you n00b! See that ledge? Jump on to that, climb over to there, and from there go see what all's around." 4.0 does what Noread says, and from just about that point on Noread told 4.0 what to do for the rest of the battle. Neither of them had played that game before. See, although 4.0 knew a lot of information, he didn't actually have real intelligence in figuring things out. And while Noread couldn't care less about anything possibly related to school, his brain can figure things out mechanically very well (He can find out combos with Yu-Gi-Oh cards surprisingly well, and he made very clever use of a pulley when getting a stake out of the ground). So what's your verdict? Should people have facts in their head, or should they have deeper intelligence of how things work? It seems like actual intelligence is what many people in life need...  |
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...sach got a point there...MOST of the information i learned in school is of no use to me...  |
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on 2006-07-21 21:59:55 |
I quite agree. The secret to pass school would be to memorize everything. But that doesn't really help in real life. When you solve a problem in real life you don't have the formulas for it. So you have to be a critical thinker. ANd sometimes trying to figure out a problem using a formula makes the whole thing longer when you can use your own methods that get correct answers. 
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information is important, but the most important thing is how we apply the information in our lives. maybe mr. 4.0 can use mathematical analysis or something to figure out the puzzles in SoTC, but he doesnt know how to apply those stuff. and Noread probably would excel in his studies if he really makes a great effort to learn. schools teach things that arent related to lives, thats true. but if you really understand, you'd know that most information is related to our lives, just not too big to make any significant changes, but still its all related. like the maths, the physics theory, history and all that. i love learning things in school, its hard to learn and sometimes i do complain bout them teaching us the unnecessary things. but when i thought more, it seems like its how we use the information that makes the information useful. oh well, i just love the sound my brain makes when its thinking, so gimme more, teachers! XD anyways, my lecturers said, not all doctors who excel in their job were excellent medical students. its when we apply our information rationally in our daily lives then we be intelligent persons. so, my point is, it doesnt matter how much we study or how many facts we have in our head. its the way we use and apply them, and the way we keep and understand them that makes information and knowledge invaluable. |
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real experience in life has more use than any school subjects i think... You'll look ridiculous if you win an international physics olympiade but you don't know how to change a lightbulb...-_- As for me, i undergo formal education just to get some titles on my name so that it'll be easier to get my first jobs... All i can depend on when i'm looking for a job before having any working experiences is my education records... Well, i guess both information and life skills are critical to our lives nowadays... |
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by レン | Ren
on 2006-07-21 22:30:36
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Most of the thinsg we learn from school is useless Remember some things and you can pass |
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on 2006-07-22 00:12:29 |
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I'm much better at self studying that listening to the teacher^^ coz most of the time I'm very spleepy^6  SUBARU  SEISHIROU  |
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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-22 08:13:53
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I agree with Angelyuki most. Many people are saying that the information is useless, but that's not necessarily true. There are times when I've learned something from school and been able to apply it to real life. That information can be useful, but only if you can properly apply it. Also remember intelligence is arbitrary, and can be used for multiple things. For example, Mr. 4.0's problem is has studied, and has a good school knowledge base, but in exchange hadn't played enough video games to know test possible routes to the top.
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-07-22 08:32:57 (edited 2006-07-22 08:34:16)
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Hmmm... So it appears it's just about unanimous that knowing facts is less important than knowing how to use them and having street smarts... @koori-chan: Yes... Memorizing dates is more important than knowing how to live happily... Critical thinking can lead to happiness... @Yuki: Interesting points you have... And I am compelled to agree with you... However, I recall someone denying the statement "Knowledge is not power... it's how you wield it." Looks like you had a change of heart XD So we need to make a petition... Run into schools and make them teach IMPORTANT things! Like how to deal with insurance companies, secrets to getting a good job and being successful, and more emphasis on understanding yourself and others, instead of understand chemical reactions. Oops, I have to go... I'll have to reply more later ^_^; Quick edit: Bwahaha... I'll have to make more replies on Neko's statement there :D *claps for the good reply* |
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I guess there is a difference between intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
You need a reason to be sad. You don't need a reason to be happy. The secret to happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible.
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Humans don't need teachers, they should learn how to learn things themselves, that is a fact on how to help yourself. Information is gained through your observations, and observations are gained through your senses. Education is gained from information and facts from other people, but sometimes it is rather useless--how can you gain information and knowledge if you don't observe yourself and only rely on education? Rather complicating, but sometimes it's true.  |
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ITS all about useing the best of both worlds, both books and street smarts. I myself try to remember this fact, every day of my life and try to put both of them to good use.
a. bai
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yeah, the development of knowledge and information shows the development of humankind, so we cant just neglect all those informations and lose them. sure, pythagorean theorem and cell divisions and metal components arent really related to our daily lives. but they help to solve bigger problems in like, building things, genetics engineering and loads more. so we cant just ignore those informations. |
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Really, school is for the fool. Math and science should be electives, for only people wanting to be scientist and engineers will ever use the knowledge they gian from those classes. I don't remember every having to use a graphing calculator in real life and how often am I gonna be handling plutonium? So why should I have to learn it's atomic mass? I would say the most important class in highschool is gym, because it is usually the only exercise the fat American kids get; that is if they even participate.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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on 2006-07-22 12:27:13 |
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Yeah...hardly anything taught in school is useful later on. For example, why would we want to learn about the past? It's not like we can do anything about it, let alone change it or something... Rumors say my school is hard, and that hardly anyone passes, blah blah blah. But I went thru my first year at it with no pressure! There really isn't much homework either, even though everyone else says there is. |
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@ suzaku, if we do not learn from the past, then we are doomed to repeat it, remember this
a. bai
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on 2006-07-22 23:03:00 |
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This is an interesting issue. I believe a blend is quite necessary for true success in life. In the long run however, the environment determines the learning. If your life is based solely in static logic, a school education is necessary. In a more maliable environment, a streetwise knowledge is very necessary. Therefore, depending on your location, either way helps to it's own degree. |
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Guess what u need is the knowledge AND how to apply it in real life. |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-07-23 17:06:08
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Hmm... Perhaps having instaed of having college after high school, you have college after middle school, and the in place of the original college you have professional school... And in the new college, you'd be able to take a few classes which you select, but you still a taste of everything else. Most of the advanced stuff is stuff you'll never use, however knowing division, how to grow plants best, etc. is something we need all the time... So what about this, instead of having serious information all your life, you get half information and half critical thinking, then when you get to high school/college, you begin getting more information on a few things that interest you, and then for professional you get even more information, while still getting basic intelligence skills...? |