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| Dudeman I do agree but sometimes people don't have the "luxury" of knowing that their loved ones are depressed and thinking about suicide. No one knew about my depression at all and I don't beleive they ever will. Sure they may have thought that I was a little weird for awhile but they tried to respect my space. If we all just do a little bit everyday to brighten the lives of the people around us then you can nip it in the bud. However in my personal case I didn't realize how much I enjoy my life until I got finished carving why into my hand. If you know then by all means do what you can but if you don't have a clue then it will be up to that person to decide if they want life or death. |
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kira, when you are in a state of depresion you dont seek help cuz you think that there is nothing that can be changed. you wish for people to help you, but you see there is nothing they can do to help so you drive them away. lady rin "A realization of failure, loneliness, a feeling of being unwanted or unloved. These things affect even someone strong willed. They survive because of their will only they walk around in a living death so their thoughts return to suicide. "Why should I live. All of my success has turned to failure. I'm not loved, I live in a house with other people (usually family) and I am alone". you have described me. i am around people who care about me, but yet im always alone. they care for me as much as they care for the anyone. if i died they would be sad, but not because it was me who died, but becuase someone died. i could have been graduated from high school aready, being in the top of my class if i had motivation to succeed. now i look back and see all the things i could have done but never did cuz i dont see a reason. feeling of worthlessness cuz i cant help one person to keep on going with their life. right now as im writing i see that there is nothing i can do to help her. and the reason is cuz im not good enough for anything. i tryed to help someone to keep on, but how can i if i dont know if i wanna keep on living. i live because i breath yet im not alive. i often fool myself say that i dont care about anything, which is what i was doing just so i could escape the pain. but thats all it is im just fooling myself. i dont seek any help because i dont want pitty from anyone.  |
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| Ketsuki, My brother goes home and says he feels alone because his friends never try to comfort him. The way i've been taught is to suck it up and work the problem by yourself. Or you could try to find little escapes to gradually return to what society calls "normal"or"content." I think you should try to listen to those who you think will not listen to you. If you feel like you have not achieved what you wanted to do in life you should try as hard as you can to achieve it. I know that sounds stupid and a bit naive but it helps in a small way. Either that or you are trying to be accepted by society by having a so called "good life" or a "fulfillment in life." You should ask yourself if your happy where you are now and if you are it doesn't really matter what other people have unless they are trying to help you. In other words there is no reason to be depressed if you are where you want to be or if you think your with the right people. |
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by Gabby-chan
on 2005-11-28 19:31:13
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Suicide is tough for me to talk about, mainly because I've seen someone attempt it. It was hard for me to deal with because I was only 11 when one of my very good friends told me about her attempts of suicide when I noticed the cut marks on her arm. I don't even remember how I dealt with it because I was at such a young age of being exposed to something so out of my reach of understanding, but the only thing I realize now is that she's still alive and happy. If there's one thing that I got out of that experience, it's that no matter who you are, hurting yourself will always hurt someone else somewhere.
"But because we need to move forward, the time will come when I have to let you go." - Kikyou, Inuyasha
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| Ketsuki I wrote and re-wrote a lot of things in response to your comment. I just want to put it simply. Find your reason to move forward. If your family shows you apathy then show them love because that is what you feel for them. By helping the people you love you will find that you have helped yourself at the same time. If you care so much that you are determined to help these people as long as you can then you will have realized your own worth. It's a lot of give and take but in the end you will have made your life and the lives of the people you care for better. I have found that there is such peace and forgiveness in this that any sacrifice you have made is repaid tenfold. |
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i dont care about society, society is worst off then i am. show my family love, i do, but its hard to do when they wont accept the fact that im my own person. either way i love them, i cant help them cuz they dont need my help, if anything im but a burdon to them. im used to to it, living in depression and solitude, thats how i lived most of my life and thats how its gonna stay till the day i die. |
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by
 
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well... yeah... maybe I kind of got carried away... coz I remember two of my classmates tried to slit their wrist... because everything happened in just one day... she said she couldn't bear it... but then... after she got to talk to someone... she realized and was ashamed of ever thought of doing it... IN MY OPINON... people take suicide as a choice because they don't have someone to turn to... but if you have a God, everything will fall into place... I KNOW LIVES CHANGED...   |
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by desertranger
on 2005-11-29 07:25:26
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OK Ketsuki, so your depressed and you recognize it. What about getting help? I've talk to a shrink as often as I can get an appointment. Rin does too and sometimes we go together. I need help to, a lot of it. I've read what Rins wrote(try saying that fast 10 times). Sometimes the only thing that keeps me going is a tiny brunette with green eyes. That's my help. Neon's right in part but I think or at least in my case I/you need someone physical. I hold Rin a lotHer being here in the same room. It's a big deal to me that and physical contact. Over the years we've found we touch all night long while sleeping. So some people need that too Over the years you would have also thought that I would have learned never to sit near a dog that farts. Jeez Baz, take that outside!!!!!!!!! |
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| HAHAHAHA! Take ranger's advice atleast in the case of dogs. If you won't choose to help yourself then live with yourself because if you don't help yourself than you want to live the way you do now. |
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| well at least your got your priorities ketsuki. If you want that to happen to the day you die dont let anyone stop you. Unless you have some kind of revalation or something. Anyways if you think thats best then keep on keepin on |
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Some people believe everything happens for a reason, so isn't suicide part of it. As for people who commit suicide as being weak, how do you know they aren't just stupid or being rash or caught up in the moment. There is a lot of reasons for suicide, and alot of ways a person can be in to do it. It may take a shit load of strengh to commit suicide depending on the situation. Anyways im all for living your life, only in the extreme cases do I find suicide a noble option. I don't think suicide is for people who are just stressed out.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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The only time ( i think ) yourself is a good option is when your dying in the name of your country or extream movement ( like a revolution). If your ceasing of life helps the strong than you are not weak. Or just keep on keepin on. live day by day. |
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2005-12-07 15:43:07
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When I first posted this I was being rash, I was caught up in emotion and I felt myself falling back into something I had lived trhough already. I had at first regreted hitting the post button but now that I see the amount of opinion and thought this has generated I've begun to think myself and I've come to conclude that I don't really have a set opinion on suicide. I agree with what a lot of Rin says and ketsuki I feel for you and I empathize with your pain (and as I think I've said before I wish we could all meet and I could glomp you guys till your blue in the face) but as well there are some other opinions in here as well. Some that startle me, just for the fact that the opinions are so strong and there seems as if there's no changing that persons mind. And that's great for those people, no matter what it is your feeling. As for suicide there is no right or wrong opinion, that's why it's an opinion the emotions we feel can never be right or wrong because they are just that a feeling. I only hope that everyone who forms an opinion reads thouroughly and decides carefully as to where they stand. Suicide is a touchy matter and I can see that now. I just wanted to thank everyone for having the courage and for bodly stating their opinions it's really helped to open my mind and my heart. It's also tought my one of life's lessons... think before you speaka s well as just think in general. Thinking before I do anything is always a good idea. I hope that one day everyone can find their strength or their true happiness, for those who need help please don't be afraid to reach out and ask there's always someone there, and if you think you have no one then come find me because I'd love to do what I can for ANYONE who needs it. Whether it's sending you a hug through an email, or like this *hugs everyone from the message board* or something more then I'd be happy to help, I've managed to get through my hard times and have found a strength, a week one, but never the less it's something. Thank you again to everyone! Here is a quote of my own "Who is the Webster and why is he telling us what is and isn't weak and strong? Each word in the english language has it's own meaning but it's not for anyone but you to decide what that meaning is, just like it's not for anyone but you to decide what you make of your dreams and your life. But just know that whatever you do I'll be that little voice in the end that says I'm not sure why you did it? Or maybe even what you did, but I'm glad you did and I want you to know I'm proud of you for it... follow your heart where ever it may lead..." (Yea I made this up myself, sorry couldn't get a good quote from an anime or anything like that, so these are the wise words of AnimeAngel...) Peace!
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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its been a while sicne i been oneline. but im back. first,animegangel, im glad that you were able to find strenght. ranger, i envy you (in a good way, if thats even possible). i have been to a shrink, and nothing ever happened, i felt the same. that was just a waste of time for me. so now i just deal with it on my own. i too, had someone that i could hold, but she just up and left, and she didnt even tell me, i found out through a friend. so i said it was cool. even though it hurt like hell. now i still want someone, anyone would do, i doesnt matter who it is anymore. having someone to turn to, thats what i need, but i dont have, i used to, but they left, they moved on with their lives and i was stuck in the same place, i dont blame them, i dont hate them, im happy that they have found something that makes them happy, i dont turn to them anymore cuz i dont want to put a frown on thier faces. i just bottle it up. but i always find myself looking for someone. im gonna go on. im gonna keep on living the way i want to live, not gonna change the way i am until my last breath. |
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by overlordsero
on 2005-12-18 18:50:39 (edited 2005-12-19 17:21:02)
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Im sorry but suicide is NEVER an option. I have been down that many a time. I have contemplated suicide I dont know how many times and tried about three times. I finally got sick of it and turned out the way I am. I dont really get worked up about anything like I used to. And I FINALLY stopped contemplating the past since I cant change what happened, I will just have to live with it. Try to look at the bright side of things....MY EYES!!!! I cant seem to think of anything else right now..... well, thats what I think of course everyone has there own opinions. And Im gald that people have there own opinions, or this world would be VERY boring....see....bright side.... well, gtg. REMOVED 
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| S uicidal kids always turn to s uicide because they think too much. They start thinking dangerous thoughts like "i'm never gonna have a better position in life"or"What's the point in living?" Go home and smother your brain in A dult swim shows and caffine. Sure you'll go brain d ead but you won't have dangerous thoughts. |
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2005-12-18 21:28:05
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Ketsuki no one, especially you, should ever have to be lonely, no one should ever have to feel pain but we all do sometimes and that's okay. It just helps to have someone who we know we can turn to who can share our pain and maybe ease it a little. Kind of like our ban-aid that we put on small scrapes to stop the bleeding... There's a song, who I'm not sure sings it, that I'd like to share "When you're world breaks down and the voices tell you turn around, when your dreams give out I will carry you, carry you... when the stars go blind and the darkness starts to flood your eyes when you're falling behind I will carry you!" So, maybe, Ketsuki I can be the one who carries you?! Well if you ever need me I'm just an email away!
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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thanks animeangel, its funny how we started off, and now we are helping each other. dont you just love how you never know how things will turn out. |
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2005-12-18 21:57:28
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absolutely, it's the epitome of irony... ketsuki, you along with a few other's on here really opened my eyes, I was so caught up in my own little make shift world where I was trying to pretend to be happy as if everything was alright, hiding from the truth... emotions kind of took over and I spoke with rash feelings. So I'd say you've helped me from the beginning, now it's my turn to help you when ever possible! and yea you've gotta love not knowing what little trick fate will play next.
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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by overlordsero
on 2005-12-19 17:48:44
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I live in my own little world......look at this blog answer to a blog test: You're the type of person who happily plays around and creates a unique little world. Little do you know that your personal paradise is so appealing that it sucks people in. You find joy in everything - so is it any surprise that people find joy in you? You bring back the inner child in everyone you meet with your sincere and spontaneous ways. Your childlike (but not childish) behavior also inspires others to care for you. As a result, those who you befriend and date tend to be incredibly loyal to you. oh and this too: The root of your natural seduction power: your innocence and optimism.
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