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Life vs Suicide
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2005-11-20 14:30:58
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I was just wondering what everyone's view is on those who write suicide notes or threaten to commit suicide when things go wrong. Does it piss you off as much as it does me, because the other day someone I cared for dearly wrote a note to his parents threatening suicide because he was "so unhappy with his life." I went up to him and slapped him so hard, and now I'm wondering if I shouldn't feel guilty for it. Please tell me there's at least one other person in here who thinks that life is one of the most precious gifts we have been given. A big responsibilty, yes, but anything precious comes with a little responsability. No matter how bad it's going there's that saying "there's always someone out there whose got it much worse!" Which I think is true. I mean no matter what you're going through your still lucky enough to be living and still having the chance at life and the chance to take each day and make it worth something. Why would ANYONE want to throw that away? I mean its not like he was being beaten every night by his parents, he was never raped, no one ever attempted it, he wasn't starving to death because there wasn't enough money to put food on the table, there's a roof over his head, and a proper one at that, he's not living in a hut scrounging for what little he can find... he's not being tortured by enemies, or just plain tortured, he's not on his death bead hanging on for dear life, he's not in a vegetative state where he can't even think for himself and he's not diagnosed with some life threatening disease and being told there's only one month left. But then even in all of these extreme and harsh situtaions, in which there are people living out each and every day under these conditions, even then though these people are still alive, they are still here, and although life may not be the happiest they have the chance to make what they can out of each day they have left to live... so please people, please, what are your thoughts on suicide? And if anyone out there is even CONTEMPLATING it, please for flippen sakes, dammit DON"T YOU DARE do it! I swear, it's people like that in this world that tick me... oh boo hoo look at my sappy life, it's so sad pitty me... suicide is only a cry for attention, if you want attention look for it somewhere else because your not gonna find it here. Go do something with your life to get attention, \and don't tell me you can't because YOU CAN! Quit moping and get your ass out there and actually DO SOMETHING... now there's a flippen concept ain't there! Sorry for this little ranting I guess, I'm just really upset and my friend is upset with me for slapping him, but he deserves it! What does everyone else think!? Thanks so much!
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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wow.....uh...can u tell us why is he unhappy with his life?
blar
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You sound like a very caring friend. You're friend is lucky to have someone who cares for him so much. I agree with your view, and I'm so glad that someone finally had the guts to post about it. I hope if anyone reads it and is thinking of suicide that they realize that their situation isn't hopeless. It's like you say, no matter how bad things are going right now, someone else has it worse. I think it takes a lot more courage to remain living then to try and run away by killing yourself. Because in the end, you can't really run away from anything, even after death.
~Maki
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You read the depression thread. There is alot about suicide there. However I find suicide can SOMETIMES be a worthy option depending on the situation. Suicide is not a cry for attention, suicide notes are. The people who go through with suicide aren't attention grabbers, they are just people who want death. We all gotta die sometime, might as well choose when. If I were to commit suicide it would not be because I am sad but because I am too lazy or bored. Too lazy to live. For example if my parents told me to go clean my room but I don't wanna, I could always kill my self and get out of cleaning my room. If I were to kill myself I would do it smiling. And I don't find life as a precious gift either, its just something dumped on us. People who commit suicide in my opinion arent to be insulted or shunned, only pitied. Its a tough decision and it is theirs to make not anyone elses. One should help them out, but not force them to live. Suicide doesn't tick me off, it is it's opposite that pisses me off. Living isn't suicides opposite, desperatly clinging to life under all cicumstances is. Like how people would step over one another to breifly extend there life. Like how people who kill others fighting over scraps of food instead of sharing them. Back stabbing others just so they can live. At that point they should have just killed themselves if they were gonna do that. Watch Kino's Travels(Kino no Tabi) it shows various aspects of humanity that sucks. Clinging to life pisses me off, just die if one has to cling to life that bad. Its not like one would live that much longer. Anyways I commented on all this many times already, you know where.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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Ya, your friend is what we call an Emo kid (emotion kid) Where their life is a black Abyss.
woot
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-11-20 18:44:34
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T.T Jomunga posted everything I was gonna say, except that life is precious *glares at Jomunga*. If you're gonna kill others so that you can live, then that's like paying $400 for something that costs $100. If you're gonna die, then die. Don't take others down with you.  |
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this is great. we have the person who thinks that life is the most precious thing there is. if you really cared about your friend you would allow him to make his choice instead of slaping him. cuz people kill themselves arent looking for attention. i agree with everything jomunga said. and people like you, animeangel27, are the kind of people that piss me off, those who commit suicide have done something most of us dont have the balls to do. most of us cling to life, even when there is nothing to go on. that pisses me off. you put down those who mope around, i would like to see if you thought the same if you had mental problems like those who mope around. those whose sadnes does not come from being dumped, or having the one they care the most for die in their arms. sometimes we try to see the light, but we cant, cuz not eveyone might be as strong as you. some of us have to take meds, to keep our depression under control. some have been on hospital beds and died, but were brought back to this hell you call life against our own will. and not just that, then sent to a rehav just for the fun of it. try having depression. the kind that you need meds, meds that dont do shit but make it worse. and then tell me how beautiful life is. if you really care about your friend dont be mad at HIS choice. and just accept it. a suicied notes are not always an attempt for attention, sometimes they are a cry for help. but to write a sucide note is to scream for help where no one can hear you. god im pissed. im gonna stop before i get banned.  |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-11-20 22:13:16
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Good, linteagueled! If you can't live for yourself, then live for others... Don't waste what was given to you. But you must ask what is better for you? Life or death? I love that. That is the best answer to this question I've ever geard, even better than the things I've said myself. |
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hm...but if the note is just an idle threat, then its a cry for attention. r u sure that he might actually suicide? and knowing why he might really helps
blar
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on 2005-11-21 07:48:08 (edited 2005-11-21 16:48:07)
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I have found Ranger staring at a loaded gun. So deep in depression he is close to suicide. I find it frightening that someone that close to me, someone whom I love with all my heart, could consider taking his own life. I don't understand the depression that drives him that way only I'm not willing to let him go and sometimes I think that's the only thing that keeps him from doing it.  |
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| a little trial and error never hurts anyone. wait, it does. |
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2005-11-21 16:18:52
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I would like to make a reply to Ketsuki who I've seen to have pissed off. I'd like to say that you don't know me and you don't know the things I'm going through either, I've fought through much worse. I do so happen to have gone through mental problems including depression. I've completely overcome it and only take a medication every morning to try to continue to surpress it. I see a shrink once a week in which I'm to undulge my deepest secrets and pour my heart out, without a choice because my parents are worried that i may be sent into depression. It pisses me off because I have seen that world we call depression. I've also been diagnosed with a severe heart condition which keeps me from doing the things I love like sports and what not, and has shortened my own life span by over 3/4's meaning I'm only supposed to live till I'm 25... this gives me 7 years... to be told as a child when I was going to die was hard to live with... to top things off I was raped at the age of 13. So don't tell me I don't understand "people like you" as you've called it. I'm sorry if I pissed you off, I'm sorry if I try to see things in a more light and optomistic way and that for you everthings black. But at least you get to go on living and you have a CHANCE to make things better. I never said things would just magically get better for anyone. If you want the world to be a better place you've got to put forth a little effort and make it the way you want it to be. If that includes a world of mass chaos and death then so be it... it makes you happy... as the saying goes "TO EACH HIS OWN!!" We are all different in our own ways for a reason as well as the fact that we all enjoy and see things differently and we are not to judge one another for our opinions. I have seen your opinion and I recognize it as well. I may not agree with what you've had to say, but I do not dislike you for it. You've stated your opinion as I have mine. And I sincerely hope that you may find a better world for yourself, but please don't forget to try and help others along the way! As for jomunga, no I did not read the depression post. I was only upset with my friend and needed to find a place to vent. I obviously shouldn't have said n e thing seeing as it has caused so much anger among the viewers in here. I'm sorry for w/e it is you may be going through as well. I think that maybe I will go have a look, I will most likely not post anything but I may have a look. I'd like to make an apology to anyone I may have offended in here, it has become clear to me that I shouldn't have said anything and that I should've just let time take it's course. As the saying goes time heals all wounds and I hope that time may heal all your wounds as well. My best wishes to you friends and good luck in your lives. I hope you find your own true happiness. Again, I am truely sorry!
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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Suicide is wrong cause if you do commit suicide you would go to the 7th Circle of Hell(The Inferno By Dante Algihieri) I mean the next day after you kill yurself something really good might happen and then you will be happy. 
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on 2005-11-21 16:50:29 |
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AnimeAngel you have offended no one here. *huggles* |
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AnimeAngel, the only time you pissed me off was when you said you were raped. I glad there are people out there that enjoy what little they got. I bet 90% of the worlds population would kill for what I have. I don't just have a steady life style, but an extavagent one, especially in the past couple of years. It makes me feel guilty instead of lucky. Do you know what happened to the guy who raped you? Would you like me to pay him a "rude" visit. I would if I could, but I dont know who he is or where he lives. I just know im gonna pick a fight with someone over this, because I am pissed. Im just pissed off right now. Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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AnimeAngel27, i apologize for being rude, i was already pissed off when i came across this thread. im happy that you have overcome your depression. now im pissed cuz i was an ass and cuz someone raped you. i dont care who it is, someone who rapes another should be tortured in the most horrible ways possible. we have all gone through hard times, but some are stronger then others and can over come things. |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-11-21 23:03:10
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Man, everyone here posted what I was gonna say! *stamps feet* Anyways, may the loser that raped you fall down a cliff, break his leg, see a vision where he realizes that what he did was absolutely horrid, and asks for your forgiveness. And good job for getting out of depression. I did too, but it was not so bad as anyone else's here, I think. And lastly, but most importantly, I applaud your stance. You have not offended me one bit, but have risen my self-esteem that there is a world out there that's not falling apart. Thank you. |
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by
 
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suicide is the only option of the weak...  |
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by desertranger
on 2005-11-22 07:13:03
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Kyoii-kun, that is not true. Sucide is also the option of the desparate, the lonely, the depressed. They see no way out of their problems so the consier the only option they have. I think the reason I haven t killed my self is that I don't want Rin hving to clean up the mess. :) Actually the only thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger is Lady Rin. Without her I would have done it a long time ago. Rape. A couple of bikers tried to rape Rin once. Fortunatly for Rin I was nearby. Unfortunatly for them them I was nearby. One of them now walks with a permanent limp, the other is dead. The bikers no longer bother Rin. |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-11-22 11:25:28
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I would say "Serves them right!", but death seems a little bit harsh. Still, they got punished for trying to do something bad to one of the nicest women I've ever known. She's even nicer than my mom, and that's saying a lot! Heh, Rin cleaning up the mess... I never thought about that. |