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if suicide's quick and painless, i want one.  |
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i do not understand 
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most people who commit suicide think about their love ones till the very end. they think that they are but a burden to their love ones, that without them their families are much better off. and thats what gives them strength to do it. its not always cuz they want to escape their suffering. but in the end the reasons dont matter. the fact that they made a choice is all that matters, its their life, their choice, and all we have to do is respect them. respect their choice. suiced can be quick and painless, it can be slow and agonizing. you never know, even if you use the same method more then once, what you feel is different everytime.  |
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by TheSubsect
on 2005-11-27 00:48:58
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| I heard on the TV show "Medium" that when someone suicides, until they approach 1/3(or 1/4, can't really remember) to the ground from the jumping point, they regret that they did it. |
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That would be very difficult to prove.  |
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| when a person suicides, it means that they are not accepted by other people. it also means they are weak, and that have given up, regardless whether you know or know not of their reasons. The truly strong people would never give up, and keep on fighting. to live is to fight, and suiciding means you are weak and you have given up all hope for your life. no matter what, you must keep on living, and show to those who disrespect you and don't care about you, that you aren't the weakling or loser they thought you were. Even if it's because your whole family has issues, there is a phone number that you can talk it over with. but no, some people are too stubborn or arrogant that they think nobody would ever understand them. if you don't stand up for yourself, and just give up without even trying to take any actions that might help, then take the route of suicide, because thats about the only thing a coward could do. |
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by Ravensender
on 2005-11-27 15:27:24 (edited 2005-11-27 15:27:54)
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I can't really explain or fully comprehend suicide, but say it this way, for someone to do so must have managed to overcome the diencephlon's (reptilian part of the brain) tendency to cling to life no matter what ... Sorry for the above tangent. Anyway, I can't in all honesty tell someone to or not to commit suicide. It's their call, although I assume that if someone does decide to go through it that they have weighed all their options.
The end of the weekend is something that's inevitable... Like a test. Or the Apocalypse.
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| wrong. There is always an answer. unless you were in the army and captured for questioning, and you suicide for the country's sake, and to save your men, then that is honrable and deserves praise. |
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LIKE KIRA said only the strong deciede to live. Weak people give up and die. "If your strong you live, if your weak you die"-Shishio,Sojiro Rurouni Kenshin. For all of you who know what i'm talking about in the above quote ( meaning you've watched Rurouni Kenshin) i know i'm taking it differently than what they meant but it makes since. |
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| I don't know about that, strength on the outside does not mean strength within. I've played football games on brokens toes/fingers, countless cuts, and pulled/strained muscles and ligments but that doesn't mean I don't become depressed sometimes. Life and its circumstances can become overbearing. Sometimes you just wanna give up. It doesn't mean you're weak, just overwhelmed and stressed out. The reason I love sports is because it is my personal belief that mental stress can be released when converted to physical stress and torment. I think no matter how depressed I become that I could not take my own life. Would you call that weakness of will because I could not follow through with it? On the topic of quotes I love this one by DMX, "To live is to suffer, but to survive...well that's to find meaning in the suffering." I apologize in advance if you can't follow my random thought processes. |
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| I suppose wolf is right seeing how weakness is a part of life, but taking your own life is frowned upon the way i think and i cannot change my mind. |
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| Nope we are all too different to compare so no matter what anyone here says, only you can choose to believe what you want to believe in. Screwed up isn't it. =D I like the way you put your opinion, it is centered around just that "your" opinion, not solid truths. |
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i like it too. and it is screwed up. everything is screwed up. (my opinion) |
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i don't really see the reason for killing urself... what's gonna happen if u do? whatever ur going thru is something u can can conquer... it's given to u for u 2 b stronger... SUICIDE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE! NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DO IT... THE PROBLEM ISN'T GONE... YOU ARE!   |
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by midori hakkai
on 2005-11-28 04:56:03
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I agree with ^nEoN^... Nothing cannot be solved. There's always a way out. Suicide is not one of them. "If you die, nothing will change...if you do, something just might." -Sanzo, Saiyuki. (I just love his quotes) Suicide is a means of ending it all quickly. Don't people even think about the consequences of their actions and how it can affect others?
"Even if you destroy this world, the world you wish for will never come..."
~Cho Hakkai~
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Even the strong can succumb to depression and hopelessness and that's what leads to suicide. A realization of failure, loneliness, a feeling of being unwanted or unloved. These things affect even someone strong willed. They survive because of their will only they walk around in a living death so their thoughts return to suicide. "Why should I live. All of my success has turned to failure. I'm not loved, I live in a house with other people (usually family) and I am alone". Would you want to live with that? Before you condemn those that take try to take their own lives try to think about how to make their lives better. There are people like that here on this forum, on many forums. Do something to enrich their lives. |
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| Neon what you said is an opinion and though many people here will agree with you, me being one of them, you still can't force that philospohy on others. It all comes down to choice. |
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Suicide is a rough thing to talk about. Many people have attempted it, and a lot of people have thought about it. I have talked myself, with many other people out of suicide. It is not because they were weak, it was because they were overwhelmed with stress. Like Wolf said earlier. The stress just becomes too much to handle sometimes. You also cannot judge weakness by one thing, some commit suicide because they were raped, beaten, or among other things, by loved ones or strangers. I have seen where a child committed suicide because he would get made fun of at school, and come home to an empty house. Once his parents would come home he would get beat by them. It was just his way to escape all the pain that troubled him. Like I said earlier, I talked many other people out of suicide. I don't want to sound mean or harsh, but I saw typing of leave them alone it's their own decision. To me, that sounds ignorant, and you should intervene. No one should take their own life, because no one knows for a fact what it leads aftwerwards. Death can either bring relief, or can bring more pain. No one knows exactly. Yes life is hard, and we all suffer in different ways. The rich, the poor, the unhealthy, and anyone else, we all suffer in different ways. People that think of suicide need to find their escape, their release basically. I found music, and music is my life. I listen to every genre and I have music for every mood I am in. Other people use friends, hobbies, games, music, and other things as a release. What I am trying to get at is this. Suicide is a serious event. If someone is thinking about it, do not say whatever it's your choice. Help them, they are not in the right state of mind. They are either depressed, or just angry. |
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| a message to all you peeps that have thought about suicide...there are many who can help you...but will you let them help you? |
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| I, like Dudeman, also use music as an escape. I frequently hear a good song and ask myself "ain't worth dying if you can listen to this song" of course i understand many people don't rely on something as small as songs so like Dudeman said each person should try to find some temporary relief. I myself really can't understand the elimination of oneself because i have never been depressed so if this post sounds stupid its because i have never thought of taking my own life. The way i have been brought of is the belief of only the strong live. The only time i have challenged this is in some song where a lyric goes " Even the people who never frown eventually break down." if you know the band/song please tell me. |