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Isn't suicide a wonderful form of revenge? you leave eternal scars in peoples hearts and make people sorry for every bad thing they ever did to you (unless they're a real ********). some people do it for revenge. Isn't suicide a simple solution to all your problems? it's like wishing everything away and never having to deal it ever again. If life was never satisfying in the first place, why live it? some people do it to escape. unfortunately for people who think that way, people eventually move on in their life, and will accept that you're dead. and simply not existing anymore is just...wow. it's impossible to fathom that. I've thought about it at times when things got really rough, but I wouldn't dare to do it. part of wisdom is being able to humor an idea without accepting it. 
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Suicide is just a way to end all the things in life you couldn't face correctly, or maybe you could have if you'd only tried a little harder. Not all of us are blessed with the mental courage to survive till the end. Fragile minds tend to crumble with little pain. Although it annoys me to watch kids threatening parents and friends that they'll commit suicide. You should't take life for granted. You are blessed with life just one time. If you are unhappy with it, you try harder to make it better. If you fail, if you still feel bad about how things have turned out for you, you try harder than ever. P.S Life is never meant to be easy.  |
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on 2008-06-07 07:02:46 |
No offense, I don't agree with suicide. We have to be grateful for the life chance we have. So we have to make our life meaningful, and be a blessing for the others... Besides, suicide never solve a problem and makes other people, who loves you, sad.   |
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"Besides, suicide never solve a problem and makes other people, who loves you, sad." sometimes people do it solely to hurt those they love as a means of revenge. toooo bad -_- and another reason why people commit suicide (particularly artists) is so that they can become famous. but what good is fame if you're DEAD? duhhhh. speaking of suicide, have you ever heard of the internet meme/phrase "an hero?" apparently it can be traced to ppl making fun of this kid who commited suicide because his gf broke up with him and he lost an ipod. or something. for more information, google it, or look up encyclopediadramatica.com and search 'an hero'. that site can piss you off though. stupid, stupid reasons to commit suicide.
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on 2008-06-09 02:22:47 |
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I haven't really read much of this thread but I wanted to pitch in and give my opinion.... Life V. Suicide. Depending on where you grew up and what you were taught to believe, this could be an easy question. In the area I live in its strictly, "Suicide is bad. If you kill yourself you'll go to hell. Suicide is second on the list of forbidden things to do. Followed up only by murdering another person." With this thought I can understand it I suppose and know why they say that. But what if the person thinking about suicide has gone to counseling over and over and taken different kinds of medicine to try and help but it doesn't get better...ever? Is the person suppose to suffer for the rest of his/her 40(give or take depending on the person) years? I honestly don't think that if a person has not been in a really bad situation or place then they can't objectively answer because they don't know whats going through the other persons head. They can't even BEGIN to understand the pain and confusion that the person contemplating suicide is feeling. I know that theres a lot of people who look at suicide as "They gave up." And in a way, the person that committed suicide probably did. He/she might not have exhausted all the resources available to get help and get better...but the others that are saying "They gave up." don't understand the complex emotions and thoughts going through the suiciders head.
There are voices in my head...but its okay...they know me here.
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@ chezarose: "Suicide is bad. If you kill yourself you'll go to hell. Suicide is second on the list of forbidden things to do. Followed up only by murdering another person." Wow...I think we were taught in quite a same way ^^ |
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life vs suicide u hav to be there to know that , even if u r the most optimistic person alive next to god (praying) the direct leap of logic is suicide .  |
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on 2008-06-09 06:22:44 |
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well, if you think you really can't take everything in your life, that there's really no sense in living in this world, being so pessimistic about everything, then do it. kill yourself. commit suicide. but remember, there are thousands of things to be considered before doing it. it's life for me because i live for so many reasons. |
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on 2008-06-09 06:52:53 |
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lolx yancey XD let them die slowly yancey XD --------- Nothing is worth suicide, it is the action which is considered the ultimate form of cowardice 
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@tepie How is suicide unforgivable and bad? See they always say that yet with no explanation why it is bad. You think that a all loving god would send you to hell if you killed yourslef.  
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I frown upon suicide. Very much so. But then again, I understand why someone would do it and don't blame them that much. You have one life, and no purpose at all. You have to make your own purpose, and that's hard as hell. Especially as you become older. Chances are ten times more slim, and depression hits sooner than one might think. Of course, if one of my friends committed suicide, I'd be devastated. But meh. It's horrible to say, but I'd move on eventually. I might not forget, but I'd move on. I definitely don't think suicide is unforgivable. That's a horrible thought to give someone who's passed away. But anyway, if someone really wanted kill them self... I hope they think long and hard before making such a decision... and possibly not do it. I'm sure at least one person in the world cares for each and every one of us... but I could be wrong. |
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on 2008-07-12 05:54:36 |
suicide is not necesarely because your emo but think it like this: why would you take your own life because something horrible happened today?tomorow will be better...as for the emo...you all know theyre songs !exactly my point 仙水 |
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@Chezarose Some rules in life (e.g religion) are old and can't change with the advancing society. @Key You make suicide sound like marriage, giving long time to think to make the right decision. XD And, whether one person atleast cares about each and one of us or not, it's only an assumption. ^ ^ Personally, I don't find the thought of wanting to kill yourself bad. Part of knowing the unknown and the mere curiosity to accomplish it is to sacrifice yourself. About 'the stupid stupid reasons to commit suicide' the reasons were stupid and weird, but that's how they chose it to be, whether it was just a plot to sell their paintings more or to make their loved-ones suffer. |
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in the end it's their own they're ending. It's theirs, not yours, you can't really force someone to live <---scientifically disproven with the advent of those lifeline thingies if someone commits suicide, it's their right ^not so easy to say when it's someone you know and love
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on 2008-07-30 02:44:38 |
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To the person who started this thread: I feel your pain.  |
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I'm too lazy to read all the posts on all the pages >_> So I'm just going to speak, if things are repeated gomen The thing that bothers me when I read opinions on suicide is how people tend to just react to how things are for someone else. Someone says they want to die and the people that know them flip out, sad, mad - whatever because they can't fathom such an act. They don't want them to do it so they feel whatever and because they don't see something wrong in their life - because they might have been through something worse. In my opinion it's just selfish for people to do that because you're nt really thinking of the person - only how you veiw it. BUT I understand where this does come from somewhat because I do realize it's not always about any selfishness it's because of what has been defined as depression these days. I'll get to that in a second For a person experiancing depression who has gone to the edge where the suicidal thoughts have entered you have to understand the way depression works then. The psychology behind it and the symptoms. You really can't just say that the person is selfish, that they are weak, or are bad people. It's so easy to think that of them - I've done it before and it's just because suicide is just so hard to understand. The depression at that point has altered their thinking - they are not thinking with clearly and are not capable of doing so. It's not a matter of stopping yourself from being pessimistic or to go out and just do things to improve. They can't. The depression deblitates them. People that are depressed that write suicide notes and such they are looking for attention - they are CRYING out for help. If they use suicide as a threat its about control. They feel out of control so threatening to end their life gives them some power over something - their life. Sometimes their's malice but those aren't cases of depression those are cases of abusive people. They are still looking for help - someone to save them even if in their head they aren't saying that. It's the normal thing to look for that help because our instinct is to survive. It's a basic law over living things. Suicide is unatural in every sense. The thing that causes people to react in a 'poor?' manner to depression and suicide threats is the 'emo' epidemic. That pisses me off about suicide, this sterotype people of 'emo'. The very fact that is a stero type now irks me to no end. Because now we have people getting together actings and talkin as if being depressed is a cool way to be. Being suicidal makes you edgy and different - you're tortchered. These people actually have NO idea what it is to be really depressed, real pain because they are all caught up in the sterotype. These people like the people that are suicidal need serious mental help but in a very different way. It's just that their exsistance is what makes people with real problems mocked or laughed at. Or ignored because people are dealing with the kid that cried suicide as an act of 'cool'. No one knows how to properly react to someone claiming suicide now because of this idiocy. Are they the 'emo' people or are they actually depressed? Either way they need some sort of help but the ones making their own suffering have trivialized the actual pain. Suicide and depression was hard enough to deal with/understand and come to grips with before. To sum it up, Do I aprove of suicide? No I don't because of the fact it goes against nature. Do I think life is wonderful? No not really but you're here you might as well do everything you possibly can to make it was good as possible. The one advantage to life is there is a tomorrow to change things but when you're dead you can't do anything anymore. A fact is if you can get through the worst suicide feeling, the feeling of wanting to surivive will hit you but most people don't wait that long. |
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@sprity [quote]The thing that causes people to react in a 'poor?' manner to depression and suicide threats is the 'emo' epidemic. That pisses me off about suicide, this sterotype people of 'emo'. The very fact that is a stero type now irks me to no end. Because now we have people getting together actings and talkin as if being depressed is a cool way to be. Being suicidal makes you edgy and different - you're tortchered. These people actually have NO idea what it is to be really depressed, real pain because they are all caught up in the sterotype. These people like the people that are suicidal need serious mental help but in a very different way. It's just that their exsistance is what makes people with real problems mocked or laughed at. Or ignored because people are dealing with the kid that cried suicide as an act of 'cool'. No one knows how to properly react to someone claiming suicide now because of this idiocy. Are they the 'emo' people or are they actually depressed? Either way they need some sort of help but the ones making their own suffering have trivialized the actual pain. Suicide and depression was hard enough to deal with/understand and come to grips with before.[Quote] I totally agree with everything you've said. Except for maybe thinking that suicide is cool. I don't think that's entirly true. I think they are more attracted to the look and lifestlye then the actually depressive outcomes. My brother is like this. When me and him moved out of our parents house he suddenly decided to change his whole waredrobe, lifestlye, etc. He wore all black (like me), stared wearing eyeliner and such (NOT ME. lol) He likes the looks, he likes the songs, he likes the idea of living like that but doesn't really know anything. When he changed I asked him why? and he said "I've always liked this but I never was able to do it before." I said, "why? I didn't wait to show who I really was." He really didn't have a answear which proved to me he wasn't actually who he said he was being. He stayed like this for about two and a half years before going back to his normal self Anyways, sorry about the rant. While I agree that "emo's" have caused many problems for people to spot true depression and whatnot. They are quite easy to disearn them from people like myslef. If peopole notice the scars and cuts on my arm and ask "what happend?" I normally say, "oh nothing." or something like that. Cuz for one, it's my problem and two I don't even know the person. If you ask one of the few "emo's" who "cut" "why you do that?" they normally spill out all the "problems they are going through and just can't take it." etc. Just one of many examples. Sorry about the rant. Just had to say it.
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on 2008-08-18 11:52:19 |
| I don't want to offend anyone here but I don't respect nor sympathize with people who commit suicide. Yes life can be painful but it's up to you to make the best of it. Life is a gift and my opinion is we should all live up to it to the best of our effort. Ending it won't really solve much ._. Especially since not many know what's waiting for them in death lol |
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if bob commits suicide then he does not have to deal with his problem anymore, thus the conflict on bob's end is solved, and everyone else is now traumatized and stressed out and sad etc. point is, they do solve their problems. however our ethics tell us this is not the best way to solve problems.
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by Night Wolf
on 2008-09-08 17:31:44
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I don't see it as bad because if "X" is so miserable that it can no longer find a reason to live then I see no problem in X killing itself because it would finally be free. In my case, I hate alot about my life right now but there is still some reasons, I'm not even sure of them all, for me to continue living. I'm always asking myself why I bother but then I just think of a few reasons and I'm still here. Like if I just offed my self right after posting this what would happen to my dog, I'd have left the only thing that truly loves me and never doubts me alone, and it may sound strange that I'd say that about a dog but my dog is always there for me and we just have that connection of true companions. Actually it disgust me when people always throw the god card down and are all "Oh killing yourself is a sin don't do it or you'll go to hell forever!!1!!11" because 1.I don't believe in god and 2.I try my best to respect other peoples religions but the god card always seems to be thrown down and it drives me crazy after awhile |