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on 2007-10-28 16:14:40
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lol, I don't remember when I saw episode four, but I just played it right now and remembered seeing it already. The thing is, I forgot what you guys were telling me to look for. XP ------- |
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by zparticus27
on 2007-10-29 03:43:11
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just saw kimiganozu and... nice...its a nice romace anime hehehe and i agree with izumo about it being realistic, it showed how trust can really affect a relationship... the ending was good...haruka accomplished her goal and takayuki ended up with mitsuki... its nice...definitely better than school days hahaha |
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on 2008-01-20 15:44:22
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Well, i finally watched school days and it made no impression. The plot's too predictable. And you said you hated Makoto, well, i'd say i hate ALL important characters in there except Setsuna. Especially that girl... forgot her name, starts on K i think... the one who Makoto dated first. Well, anyway, she's too annoying. Doesn't knows when to give up... like Makoto's something worthy of fighting for. :) |
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on 2008-01-20 16:50:12
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Her name is Kotonoha... and she was one of my top girls in the anime. I finished dLing Kiminozo, like, last week or something but I haven't seen it yet. The subs are below average, but good enough I suppose... ------- |
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on 2008-01-20 16:51:05 (edited 2008-01-20 16:51:20)
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@moggle well said, hahahahaha welcome to we despise you club, hahahahahhahahah |
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@DA: Well, dunno what's good in her... i mean, if she just gave up like she should have... An as for Kiminozo... well, you can expect it to be WAY better than school days. @Key: Well... i don't actualy despise the guy. I'd say i don't really see what's good in him that makes them fight, but it's not like i see lots of bad things in him. In a way, he's a nice guy... but i think someone should be with him in order to control him :D He gets TOO carried away by situations :) |
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on 2008-01-20 22:00:20
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That was Sekai's job from day one in this anime. She's really the one that got him started on this whole, Roller Coaster ride... The only thing bad about it was that she liked him at the very beginning as well. You could've easily seen the pain and suffering she felt, even on day one. I like Koto, simply because she's the kind of girl I would kind of want in life. She's nice, respectful, and she's true to her feelings. Besides her perfect, attractive body and sizes, she's loving and especially caring! The only [bad] thing about her, was who she had these feelings for. I still don't see the good in some dude who basically f****ed every female he saw around him, literally. A good sc***job and just toss aside the feelings of some girl, and throw away Koto forever... He did it was Sekai a few times as "practice", Setsuna, Hikari, Otome, etc. Izumo even shared he did it with people in which case, your jaw would just drop. Koto went through a whole lot in the anime. She suffered as much as Sekai, but went through other s*** in school and outside of school. I said it before in the School Days thread. I hated him less during the part where he finally got Koto back into realty. He was there for her, and was truly trying to save her again. That's one of the only good things he did all series long. The special Izumo also shared, was one episode where there was nothing bad about him at all. Even if it's some special, it's a LOT different than the anime itself. If the series was more like that, more comedy and lighthearted scenes, a lot of people would not only hate him less, but maybe even like him more. I had no negative reaction against him in that special. ------- |
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You know, there are tons of such guys in real world. Not everyone's perfect :) Just cuz it's anime - you see it in a different light. And i'm not quite sure about Setsuna... well, if he did it - it was REALLY fast :) Aside from her, Sekai's okay too, but she should've beaten the crap out of Makoto once in a while :) Really, a good beating and that guy'd become nice and faithful :D |
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well for me if you want to be a playboy than act like it, not the one that kinda doing it half way, he is nice (the girls on this series thought so) but at the same time a player, 2 side of polar opposite, if he more to the harem, i would care less about him, but he got the one he love and still played with other sheesh!!! anyway DA i agree with you, if this anime don't go to the extend of having sex, just a comedy and love story (NO SEX) then i would definitely would like this anime, and even that guy, (esp. for the love of cute girls in the anime ^^) it's just seem wrong to me about the guy having doin that to a whole lot of people. ~haaaah if the producer want it to be this way, why don't the producer go up to the extend of making a hentai anime, and that would be much better feel about this whole anime series TT |
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Oh no, I have nothing against the sexuality of the anime. I can stand the sexual moments and scenes. Nothing bad for me. It's just the indecisiveness and careless acts he made with these girls. He was unsure about one thing, then tried another. Eventually, he made so many left turns that he found himself in a loop whole and everyone wanted to know what was going on. I want to play the game so I can actually BE him and make my own decisions. And about a hentai series, I'm not sure if one was made or is being made, but I think there's a doujinshi or something out for School Days. ------- |
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@Key: Yeah... for some reason i can't really stand ecchi. If it's normal anime - it's okay for me. If it's a hentai anime - it's still okay. But ecchi's usually lot worse than each of them. Like they're trying to cover the holes in the plot with such scenes :) That goes not only for School Days, but for several others as well... like Kodomo no Jikan. I think THAT anime needs ecchi the LESS. Anyway, as for Makoto, noone disagrees that he's a bastard. But at the same time he's a good guy. Well, in a way of course. He's nothing like Takayuki from Kiminozo or Rin from Shuffle!, but he's still kind... come to think of it, that's the main reason he betrays all of them. Like he can't bring himself to refuse any of them. |
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@ Moggle-san So you didn't really like most of the characters in the series eh? It's funny in the SchoolDays thread the majority of the posters absolutely hated 'that guys' guts but i believe you are the first to give him some redeeming qualities. Like you said nobody's perfect....every character in the series has their own personal flaws. - Makoto: for thinking about only sex & not considering the feelings of the girls. *you said 'Like he can't bring himself to refuse any of them'...actually all he was doing was thinking about SEX. He tried to cover his @$$ by apologizing to Kotonoha. Yet even til the end he played with around with all of them until Sekai couldn't take it anymore. Overall he's a good person but he makes decisions without thinking about what it will do to others. - Sekai: the person other than Makoto to start all the problems. She pretended to help him just to get close to him. Her feelings for him got in the way of common sense & she should've held them back. She even faked being pregnant to get her way. Just like Makoto she is a overall nice person but just like Makoto she also makes decisions without considering the feelings of others. - Kotonoha: The shock of being dumped by him caused her to lose all perspective of things. She was to innocent & lost in love to realize what was happening around her. That caused her to be taken advantage of by others. She has weak mental emotions which are very fragile & she has an over obsessive behaviour when it comes to Makoto. - Setsuna: She deeply cares for Sekai cause they are very good friends. Willing to give up her own happiness for Sekai. Even though she harbors her own feelings to Makoto. She tries very hard to keep Kotonoha away from Makoto & Sekai. However cause of her feelings for him she has a one-night stand with him before leaving for Paris. She does this behind the back of her best friend. For this she is even a bigger coward than the others cause she doesn't have to face any of them due to her departure. - Otome: She has had a major crush on Makoto but has never shown it. When she did eventually reveal it to Makoto....they have sex. However Makoto never has the same romantic feelings for her except to use her as a sex-toy. She finds out about Kotonoha dating Makoto, she gets upset & jealous about it...which is the reason for her bullying. - Hikari: Has a crush on Taisuke & hates Makoto cause she believes he was dating Sekai. She eventually opens up to Makoto & they make love now & then. Since there were not really any romantic feelings between them she dumps him when she finds out about Sekai's (fake) pregnancy. To me she was doing all this to make Taisuke jealous. The only person that gets away scott free to me is Kotonoha's sister Kokoro....^___^. Personally i don't hate Makoto (since in the game you play him)....i just don't approve of his tactics. In the game i'm able to control what he does or doesn't do...it just frustrates me that in the anime i have no control...thinking about what he is doing kinda pissed me off. Like many guys in anime (& real life) he thinks all about SEX & that caused him to make stupid decisions just to get laid. @ Key-san Well there is nothing out of the ordinary with the concept of teens in school having sex during school or anywhere for that matters. The concept of SchoolDays although seems unrealistic it really isn't. If others think that nothing goes around at school other than learning than they have to have their heads checked. Although i'm not sure if it happens in other countries there are cases of this happening over here in North America. Sex at school is not uncommon although many of us think it is. Us humans are all disgusting lustful sex maniacs deep down though many of us try to hide that fact or not think about it. Face it when we all get older & want to have families eventually we will have to do it (SEX) eventually. As for SchoolDays anime....the creators wanted to make it as close to the PC game as possible. Deviating from that may cause the original fans to turn away from it if it was some slapstick comedy....or anything else. SchoolDays was famous for its violence so having the ending the way it was is not that suprising at all. @ DAngel-san There is no Hentai anime of SchoolDays....only the collection of H-scenes from the game put together to make a semi Hentai anime. You can consider the entire game to be a hentai anime cause it was all fully animated. But there are many doujins & mangas about it. I have a couple doujins of it....& there is a sort of manga about it...not sure if i should call it a manga or a doujin...but it is longer than your average doujin. |
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Well, i kinda disagree about Makoto thinking only about ecchi... well, he had such thoughts of course, but quoting Maebara Keiichi: "Men ought to be perverts" :) And i still think he just didn't have willpower to refuse them all... but that's not exactly his fault, right? :) And i can't really bring myself to blame Setsuna for anything :) After all, she was the only character that didn't annoy me :) But actually, the reason i don't like School Days isn't only because of characters. As i probably said before - i kinda despise ecchi(but not hentai). And the anime itself's WAY TOO predictable. At the end of third episode you already have all possible patterns in your mind :) But hey, this topic's somehow transforming into School Days discussion club :D So, i'd prefer if we talked about something else as well... personally, i'd like to hear anyone's opinions on Video Girl Ai and DiGi Charat Winter Garden. Oh, and what happened to Kiminozo Ova? For some reason only first episode was out. And those ova really inspired me... i even had weird idea of being kind for once... well, it didn't last long though :D But still, seeing Haruka's too relaxing. And when she and Takayuki are together, the scene's too peaceful and relaxing :) |
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@izumo and DA well that not what i meant (well half of it maybe) okay this is what i think 1st i've watched golden boy and read it, and i'm okay with it 2nd i've watched hentai and read H-manga, and still okay with it 3rd i've know about Americans cultural and still okay with it 4th i've seen romantic anime that got way out of the line because emotion, and half okay with it (saikano and kiminozo) then why i couldn't stand about this one??? well maybe because of what DA said, indecisive of makoto start it all, but shessh, in the reality i believe (americans like izumo said may have sex with school friends, but still they okay with it, not having real depth emotion to go around i presume, because when you're dating and having sex it mean okay, but for the swinger it's okay also because they just want to play *so what makoto stand in this statement* then i watched and read golden boy, where this one particular boy being so ever popular with girl and having sex with him, well they just like setsuna, they like him and want the first exp with him or maybe just wanted to do it with him, but they know that he just to kind (still thinking about this) and they still okay with it, and having him with the other are almost acceptable because they know the feeling of other. *so what makoto's girls and makoto stand in this statement* watching hentai and all that come to a conclusion that what ever thing happen to the girls it was just for the sake of the viewer pleasure...... mostly male, (don't count yaoi, really despise it). and because knowing that the sexual implementation is rather directly shown, with or without feeling, (more over almost having no depth plot, or some that have really have dark atmosphere plot in it). but the thing is this is just like porn film *so does school days porn film??? nah* watching drama romance (it's really hard for me to watch this kind) [saikano and kiminozo, etc, shuffle and all that] at the very least the guy really consider the girls, even when they realize later, but not all that too late, they still bound by reality of who they like, takayuki doesn't like hikaru at first but trying to, but in the end true to his feeling, so does with saikano, and whole lot with rin, and other *so what makoto stand in this statement? the one he like is sekai* talking about shuffle i well aware that it was from hentai game, and i'm not talking one side because of in the anime they took off the sex part, no, i'll be fair about this one.... the typical of lot of hentai are solving problem then having sex, meaning rin might solving each other girls problem by having sex in the end, it was like the sex was the reward for him *so what makoto stand in this statement he just creating more problem* i meant okay the one he like is sekai, this one really do, he like kotonoha because she's cute, hell yeah guys like cute girl, but starting from here it was way drifted, kotonoha getting dumped, bullied and all that, and he goes to sekai a lot, then goes to other, and other, and other, like i said, if this going to be harem, it's good anime,where all the girls share him and adore him to the extend for sex pleasure. if this going to be romance, it's just like sheep with wolf heart devour and spat the remnant, kotonoha deserve better person.................... he is just a playa @izumo in the end i have to agree to what you said, this anime is well know because of the nice boat in the end, it was so unexpected (for the one that doesn't play the game, and start watching this because of the girls) the producer have succeeding making the anime that will be remember, but in a bad way of the char... sad, not that i disagree to the fans, if the producer make it like shuffle that was also dispatch from hentai game, i think i'm going to like it better (but i agree that it will remembered lesser ******* edited @moogle wew, thx for pointing that one out, it was a typo |
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Well, with all this that you said you just mean that if the genre of the anime was slightly changed, then it'd be good and noone'd hate makoto so much? :) And about shuffle... i doubt it was like that... although i never played it, but i suspect that you first solve their problem, then you get those scenes... Well, that's how it usually is :) But anyway, refeering to Shuffle, i meant mostly anime, since who knows what character Rin had in the game :) |
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well what can i said in romance anime, the one that hurt the girls is the b*****d in action the one who want to took the world is bad guy in sport the one with cheating is the @$#|-|()|_3 in drama the want making sad thing is.... (i don't know what to say anymore in hentai the one banging the girls, well, we just say okay, and finish watching, i mean even if the main char that banging the every girls that he met is a jerk, well we just fell less antipathy toward that guy, well because it was hentai and meant for that kind of thing, so we kindly have "oh well" expression (i mean for guys, a lady would despise this statement). but still we hate the bad guy so here come a romance anime with char that have personality of hentai anime, of course i hate the guy because of stereotype of romance anime doesn't go to that extend for PC i will be fine with that, because it is a hentai game so that what was about, the genre is not proper for me ****************** anyway don't forget that this is my opinion, not that i want to start a flame, i don't know it's kinda fun writing and answering things like this with no proper answers because everyone have their own opinion ^^ thx guys ^^ anyway if you want to start another then i'll gladly answer it again hehe jsut because it fun ^^ |
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ok what made school days really annoying is how naive the characters are...especially kotonoha...she couldnt she get the clues that makoto is playing her?...same goes for the other girls especially the threesome girls...thy only did it with makoto because he's getting popular and screwed most of the girls in their year... makoto is always thinking about ecchi the main reason he tries so hard to date kotonoha is so taht he'd end up under her skirt,but kotonoha is a bit shy unlike the aggressive sekai who's not only the fun to hang out with for makoto but openly lets makoto have his way for "practice" and makoto being to kind? so he's so kind he cant reject a girl who wants to have sex with him...well i myself might succumb to the temptation of this but i'd think of the consequences before i jump to paradise...unlike makoto who is like a fish eating lure after lure who eventually gets caught well its not makoto i hate, its he's actions towards the events around him, he himself knows how he betrayed kotonoha but lacked the courage to tell her...he's not kind,he's just doing what is convenient for him ok enough school days... can anyone suggest some new romance anime? what are your thoughts on myself yourself? thanks |
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on 2008-01-23 04:25:26
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well haven't finished it maybe DA can give some enlightenment i recommend ninomiya |
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is it good? typical? cliche'd? ninomiya? thanks |
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well that one that just recently finish, well not cliche for me, might have been original, but .... i don't know, seem original for me well the new anime for 2008 (unfinished airing) there are H20 true tear rosario+vampire 2007 clannad |