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Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by zparticus27 on 2007-10-23 21:51:29
virgin brides? hehehe quite frankly its kinda impossible nowadays...to a guy that would be one freakin bonus!hahaha

Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-24 07:32:56 (edited 2007-10-24 07:36:46)
@izumo well i think i'm not gonna watch that anime, even though it's happy ending, i found it rather wrong......

@moggle well if you put it that way what can i say, the thing i can say is kiminozo anime they higlight not in haruka, but rather between takayuki and mitsuki

at first (earlier episode i hate mitsuki for forcing takayuki to do this and that) but if you really watch the earlier episode, takayuki feeling is toward mitsuki, as for haruka, he find it that she is a cute girl (mitsuki friends) and toward that he accept the offer to become his girl friend (that's why if you see, he laugh when with mitsuki and he is more comfortable with her)

but in he end he TRIED to forget about mitsuki, (he know that haruka unease about the relationship, and also takayuki choose haruka, because responsibility, he find it after several meeting that haruka wasn't so bad) up to this point i see a normal person but i also had a prediction in the end he true to himself and admit that he like mitsuki, still i saw no wrong in the person, every one has heir own feeling, no one can forced a love

as for you all known that mitsuki is first to become close to takayuki she do this in order to let haruka who is shy can be friend with takayuki

then come haruka accident this put takayuki blaming him self, and as you can see in the flashback he really dump and down-low, mitsuki partly guilt start seeing takayuki because the state he was in, so she took care of him, at first she just cook and talk, but takayuki still won't budge, and she felt sorry for him and also guilt, she hug him, and cried at first time, then they both doing it to loose their mind (to forget their problem)

then takayuki gradually changing and mitsuki gave her swimming career all for takayuki (because she SO love him, she SACRIFICE EVERYTHING TO MAKE HIM HAPPY) and the feeling takayuki burried erupt again

then haruka wake up, and takayuki gradually making distant between them, she is depressed

for that kenji part, kenji actually have feeling toward mitsuki, he want to be the one mitsuki depend on but mitsuki shoose takayuki, she is really depressed and need the feeling of love and taken care from another, and she want to forget her problem, she is drunk and she doing it with kenji,

although kenji know it's wrong he still doing it (i can tell kenji is a good guy) because he thought that he can become the one mitsuki depend on, he know what takayuki adn mitsuki did, he know their sorrow and because he harbor feeling toward mitsuki he want to gave his all to for her, but fate say another (poor kenji) mitsuki rejected him on he morning

kenji then tell takayuki and what did he do??? NOTHING!!!!!!! that damn bastard done nothing, he just stood there, agreeing, not even a slightless feeling of anger came out, and you know wha that mean don't you.

it tell you that whatever mitsuki doing, it's not his problem

can you believe that, after so much she done?????

everyone think that haruka is a weak hearted person, but she is a strong hearted person, just like moggle said, this is haruka good part, she accepted the fact that she was in coma for over 10 year (did i get the year right?? correct me) and can let takayuki go, if she beg for takayuki at that point, i'm gonna hate her

i write haruka on the last part because i think haruka not even the main problem in he anime
(haruka is the trigger) and the main story is about mitsuki and takayuki.

i like the ending because mitsuki and takayuki end up together, it's just so sad if she's not


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by Massacre Town(MaTo) - Moggle on 2007-10-24 13:56:32
@Key: Yup, you got it wrong, it was three years :D You get 10 years only if you sum Kanon and Kiminozo :D And btw, as for Haruka's strength, it was mentioned in anime, that she had a weak body, but strong heart :) Then the obvious idea you get - the opposite of mitsuki :) And i wouldn't say that Haruka's the trigger... after all, it was her that explained the philosophy of that anime, wasn't she? :D She's also one of main characters... the trigger was a coma :) But well, let's say it simple... my position that is... I just love strong hearted people and hate weak hearted ones :) That's why i hate Mitsuki and like Haruka :) I also prefer calmness over craziness(if it isn't battle craziness :D). But well, as you said, the ending was pretty good... although it was sad outcome for me, but it was beautiful ending :) Oh, one more reason why i didn't like Mitsuki - i hated seeing her crumpling apart more and more :) Compare three-years-ago Mitsuki and present her. Anyway, if it's about character's preference you can argue on this eternally :) And i believe we already stated each other's opinions, so i guess we can go on to the next one :)
@Zparticus: Well, i doubt a guy will recieve such a bonus... just because it's usually... well, a guy who rushes :D
@SkyL: Yeah... and the ideas they state are rather right ones :) Especially Alice(my favorite character) stated about her left hand... really, they say things that happen to us but we don't usually see them :)

Oh, and i'm watching Shakugan no Shana right now :) Man, how glad i was when those annoying two sibling brats were finally killed... And i really pitied Hirai...


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-24 15:50:22 (edited 2007-10-24 15:51:25)
@moggle no need to argue more, we understand each other in term of knowing each preference and likeliness well for me i don't dislike haruka, but as i stated, if takayuki and mitsuki haven't done that thing, i still can except haruka end up with takayuki

well the ending if takayuki not late when they suppose to met up is rather nice one^^


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-24 17:01:23
^Yeah, that happens in that special cd. Whatever it is. This isn't a series I'm very bound by. I think of it as a good anime, but not good enough for me to consider as a anime I'll remember for a while. Kimi Nozomu was just pissing me off as Takayuki and Mitsuki never did anything to handle the situation except run from it.

The philosophy was the Haruka is a strong person, and she was the key to end the madness. It takes a strong person to help end things, so that's how it goes.

Sigh -.-'


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-25 04:22:18
@skyl

hahahaha you got that right, mtsuki and takayuki run from reality and broken down because they afraid to face the fact, but in the end, they face it

good thing i borrowed this anime from my friend, i don't want to watch it the second time

pissed at takayuki and more pissed at makoto (school days)


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by zparticus27 on 2007-10-25 04:55:41
er wait dont tell me that kimi ga nozomu Eien is as depressing as school days?! i just happen to have bought it with school days and higurashi last week >.< i mean im expecting a little romance/comedy action from this and school days and sadly school days ruined it and now this? judging from key's statements above it looks like the guy in kimiga is kinda like makoto...damn

Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-25 05:01:36
@Z you have to decide for your self, some find this anime good, some find it bad, some find it pissed at takayuki (thas me!! XD) it's has a good story, but not that good. well it better than school days (for me) for depressing part, your luck is run out, no such thing as comedy here, well they have slight comedy, but as good as none.


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Link | by zparticus27 on 2007-10-26 03:00:16
@key figures >.> yeah i guess its time to watch kimi ga nozomu eien...anyway is shuffle memories a sequel or a ova?

Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-26 03:11:49
@z thats i want to know, can anyone tell me what is the main story if shuffle memories?? i mean, i read various post about this and it's stated that this anime is just like flashback about what happen in shuffle! is there anything different??? or simply just flashback??


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Link | by devils-angel on 2007-10-26 13:00:22
Haven't seen Memories (Shuffle!) yet, but I read that it just explains the other characters more other then Kaede (is it Kaede?).
So yeah, I think there are flashbacks to the other characters, but I'm not sure.
It's been a while since I've done anything with Shuffle! Memories, or since I've seen Shuffles!.

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Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by Massacre Town(MaTo) - Moggle on 2007-10-26 14:42:44
Well, Shuffle memories is just a retelling of original Shuffle, but episodes are not chronological, but dedicated to a certain character... like two for Kaede, two for Primura, etc... The only new episode's Shuffle Memories 13, and it's just like any other special episodes - quite ecchi :)


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Link | by on 2007-10-26 14:43:12 (edited 2007-10-26 14:43:24)
@ Z-san
I for one enjoyed Kiminozo....it's basically a mushy love anime that is little soap-operaish...although it does dive into situations that may & can occur in a real-life relationship. About being responsible & trust between the couple.

I personally enjoyed the game a tad more than the anime adaptation....although it is a pretty worthy translation of the game. The new OVA out in December will cover Haruka's route in the game....so fans of hers will enjoy it.

As for Shuffle! Memories....its more like a recollection of the TV series...a summary of sorts. There are some new scenes & storyline changes in the anime...that covers the other characters more detailed. There is an alternate ending also. You can say the anime is a director's cut of the TV series. Mainly for those who want more Shuffle!....if you liked the other characters other than Asa-sempai...than Memories will keep you happy. It's not overly important if you watch it or not...


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by Massacre Town(MaTo) - Moggle on 2007-10-27 14:47:19
Well, i doubt something like Kiminozo can happen in real life... i mean there aren't many people like Takayuki... and three-years comas don't happen that often :) Come to think of it, romance animes sure have a lot of comas...:
Kiminozo
Lamune
Kanon
Seems like Clannad will have it :)


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by fhfyeodb on 2007-10-27 20:11:20
Woot~! Haruka Route is real!
Thanks for the info guys, you just made my anime anticipation about 4 times bigger ^o^;
(=.= Excuse me for my late response to that)

Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-27 21:24:26
^no prob


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by devils-angel on 2007-10-27 21:26:37 (edited 2007-10-27 21:27:37)
Did Nagisa have a nine month coma or was she just ill? I thought she was just ill, and missed nine months of school.
Or, are you talking about what could possibly happen later in the anime?

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Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-27 21:30:57
Just wait and see DA-chan :D


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by on 2007-10-28 06:57:02
@ SkyL-san
I mostly meant the relationship issues/aspects in the anime....about trusting your partner & the responsibility each other has to be to make a relationship work.

Well..actually there are alot of people like Takayuki...especially the depression part of him early on in the anime after the accident. The dramatic event that occured to Haruka made him lose all hope in life & himself. It may be the guilt for not being with her that was the cause....As for Mitsuki...she did everything in her power to get him back....it was a last resort to use her body to make him come to his senses. It was after Haruka woke up that many fans don't like Takayuki for his indecision....& to some extent Mitsuki too (unjust or not).

@ Jow-san
Well i kinda knew there are alot of Haruka fans out there. Slated to be released in early-mid December is when the 1st volume of the OAV is out. So far from what i know after Haruka wakes up (the beginning before the accident is all the same as the 1st series) Takayuki is devoted to her. Haruka has lost 3 yrs of her life but one thing remains...her love for Takayuki. The events that follow is Haruka & Takayuki visit places...to get caught up. However there is one place that they don't visit....the phonebooth where the accident occured.


Re: Key-Type romance discussion club (join us)
Link | by Massacre Town(MaTo) - Moggle on 2007-10-28 14:09:58
@DA: See episode four - you'll understand :)


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