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The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by »»Ran on 2005-12-12 04:47:06
You might think that this post of mine is bad, but before you close this thread, read my opinion first.

A lot of Anti-Christ people are out there. You might not know it, but maybe the person next to you is one. A lot of people claim that they are Anti-Christ, you see. But before claiming that you are one, you have to know these things first:

THERE IS NO SUCH PERSON IN THIS WORLD WHO IS AN ANTI-CHRIST. TO BE AN ANTI-CHRIST, YOU MUST GO AGAINST EVERY WORD OF GOD, I MEAN EVERYTHING. Every person in this world has innate goodness inside them, and having a good side means that you are not an Anti-Christ, even if you mean it. All of us feel that every time we commit something against others and God, sadness slips in us eventhough we try to force it out of our minds- and that proves that you still love God.

Do Good and Avoid Evil, that is the message of God for us. Even Marylin Manson does good for others.

There is only one AND ONLY ONE BEING in this world who is an Anti-Christ, that is the Devil himself.

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-12 05:35:57 (edited 2005-12-12 05:36:36)
I'm not going to lock this thread.

My quuestion is what about the people who don't believe in Christ or christainity? Or those who deny gods existence completely?


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-12 06:09:35
Very good point, Ran... Very good point Rin...

Hey Rin, which one's sama, kun, san, and chan?? I think that Gendou Gendou is sama...


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by niwa on 2005-12-12 09:07:25
why would i be an anti-christ.he is my prophet before prophet muhammad S.A.W threfore i am not anti christ......

Lol Tiem~

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by yorokonde on 2005-12-14 20:48:36
@»»Ran:
Malutong na topic yan, ah!


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by yuakara_99 on 2005-12-14 20:49:51
Wha' da?!?!

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by Euphony on 2005-12-14 21:50:11
This is quite interesting indeed. Have you been watching the Left Behind series lately? :P
I have to sleep about Rin's question for a bit before I can answer. Brain's quite dead after studying for history test

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by gendou on 2005-12-14 22:09:46
i deny the existence of god entirely. There is no solid philosophical argument that suggests a creator, nor is there any scientific evidence that requires one.

Many people believe in a creator in order to satisfy their cognitive dissonance with reality. This I see as running away from the problem. I do not wish to imply that ALL religious beliefs and customs are methods of escape! Rather, I point out that some BEING similar in many ways to HUMANS creating the universe is rather unlikely.

The christian faith is one of hundreds in the world, and though it is the majority in many parts of the country, is no more "correct" or "incorrect" than any other religion. The same goes for denominations within christianity.

I think linux is the devil.




Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-14 23:59:30
Umm... Gendou, if I may...? *hopes banning isn't the answer to the possbile fury that will come soon*

Do you think that everything just "happened"? Sure, having some ultimate being create everything is a little farfetched, but human skin cells, atoms, the solar systems, even a brain... All of those just came into existence for no reason one day? And how do you explain all of the occurences that are identified as miracles? Like for example (true story), a firefighter was stuck inside a burning building with his entrance blocked off, and he had a civilian with him. There was absolutely no way out, but then he say some sort of blue-ish light in the form of a person appear out of nowhere, and (not too sure on this part --->) told him in someway to ram a wall to his side. He did so, and because of the fire the wall was heavily damaged and he went right through, to an alley outside the building.

Many instances like that happen, and frequently, if people pray for someone they usually get better. If someone's in a coma, how do they hear the people's prayers? And there is no solid evidence for the big bang and stuff too. So, I could den ythe big bang/evolution entirely, just as you did with religion.

Better stop before I rant and flame too much... Just trying to prove a point... *shields head from incoming Gendou fist*


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by The loyal Servant of the Moon Goddess on 2005-12-15 00:05:51
I agree with Gendou sama. I dont believe in god at all, altough i am a christian....well sorta. I dont believe in something like that unless there is some solid proof for me like seeing god or something like that.


I prefer being alone so do me a favor and leave me be....

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-15 00:10:22
Why do you need to see something to believe it's real? You can't see wind, but you know it's there because you can hear it. If some glass has been cleaned rellay good, you could not see it and run into it. You'd then know it's there because you felt it. I can't see New York City, but I know it's there. And if you can give me solid absolute proof that there is no God, I'll believe you. Just try it.


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by The loyal Servant of the Moon Goddess on 2005-12-15 00:16:06
I cant make u not believe it just as much as u cant make me believe it.
Each to his own i guess. I am not gonna question ur ways
. All i am sayin is that i dont believe in it.
I do believe in luck though


I prefer being alone so do me a favor and leave me be....

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by The loyal Servant of the Moon Goddess on 2005-12-15 00:17:18
By the way whats ur nick? I cant copy-paste a pic..... Or i couldnt anyway


I prefer being alone so do me a favor and leave me be....

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by »»Ran on 2005-12-15 04:31:42 (edited 2005-12-15 04:31:52)
@Lady_Rin: To the people who are not Christians or Catholics, same rule applies. I mean what kind of God wants bloodbath? About the people who don't believe that there is a God, especially Gendou-sama: All of you really do have a point but there are really some things that cannot be explained by anything, like this question from Sophie's World: "Is there such a thing that came from nothing?"

P.S. I have not watched Left Behind Series, I have no idea what is it.

@Shimizu_Takako: Theology made me speak out, but that is not our topic in school.

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-12-15 04:43:02 (edited 2005-12-15 04:45:07)
I'm not anti-christ, but I don't care about religion. Whether I believe in something or not isn't gonna change the fact of whether its there or not. I find many concepts that religions have to offer farfetched.

Here is my only belief that doesn't have proof. The physical world(this is prooven to exist actually, we live in it.) and the spiritual world. There is no proof that the spiritual world exists nor is there proof it doesn't. I really don't give for the heaven/hell theory at all, or any other religious theories.

If I don't believe in christ does that make me anti-christ or who cares about-christ? I should say I believe he existed, but just as a normal person.

Aires the god of war wants a blood bath. I believe in greek mythology as much as christianity.

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Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by »»Ran on 2005-12-15 04:49:45
Just as I said in the first post in this thread: "No person is an Anti-Christ." Even though you don't believe in God or you don't have any religion (Pagan), you are not considered to be one because you are not going against His word, Jomunga.

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-12-15 05:00:25 (edited 2005-12-15 05:03:04)
Ok I see now. So if I agree with Christ on some parts then its all good.

So if someone disgreed with me on everything they would be anti-jomunga.

To make sure nobody in this world is anti-jomunga I will say this now; food is tasty, fun is good, love is great, happiness is swell, and anime is the highest form of entertainment. Anybody who disagrees with the last one is in denial.

Is there any difference between anit-God and anti-Christ?

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketJomunga eats your avatars.

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by Seculi Terminus on 2005-12-15 08:40:33
hoho, well, I'm not QUITE an Anti-Christ, although I'm getting closer and closer....

anyway sachiel, even if we could suppose that the stories you heard were true, doesn't mean that god exists. Just because the world exists doesn't necessarily mean there's a god, nor does it mean that that god is a christian one.

Moreover, in my own experience, prayer makes no difference whether the person gets better at all. If they get better, they say it's proof that god exists, and if they don't get better, well, it's "god's will." It doesn't prove anything.

In any case, it's impossible to prove that something isn't there if it isn't there. Like, you try to prove that I DON'T have a bag of ramen in my hand. I COULD be typing with one hand. It's POSSIBLE that it's there.

Therefore, the ramen is holy and I shouldn't have sex. That's basically the logic behind belief in god, as far as proof or rational argument goes.

Besides, even if this feeling you have prove that god exists, which god would he be? Wiccan? Muslim? Christian? Or maybe you favor the older gods, such as the ones believed in by the Romans or Egyptians.


Don't get me wrong - this isnt personal or anything. I'm nihilist myself; I seriously dare you to find someone who cares less whether you believe in god or not.

But when someone tries to make arguments like these, I just gotta refute them. Gomen~


That's my $0.02. Plus change.
AKA Home-Dog Ass-Masta' The G-Unit

Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-15 15:02:07
@Moonstone: put your mouse over the picture in my name, and at the bottom left is should say stome stuff and at the end say "name=s-a-c-h-i-e-l".

Good points, Seculi, but I'm staying here.

And yeah, never thought of that... What if that wasn't the Jehova god, but like buddha? Ah, I'll figure out later, I must do some Christmas shopping now... Oh, and this could be a coincidence, or have some logical reasoning for it, but Christmas has Jesus' name in it... Christ-mas.


Re: The truth about being an Anti-Christ
Link | by gendou on 2005-12-15 16:03:24 (edited 2005-12-15 16:30:01)
Even though you don't believe in God or you don't have any religion (Pagan)
um, dont you mean Atheist? "Pegan" IS a religion, "a practitioner of an Earth Religion..." (See: www.conjure.com/COG/idef.html)


... what kind of God wants bloodbath?
The christian God (supernatural being with supernatural powers) called "The Devil" (AKA "Lucifer", etc.) wants bloodshed and destruction, is that not correct?

human skin cells, atoms, the solar systems, even a brain... All of those just came into existence for no reason one day? -s-a-c-h-i-e-l
absolutely not! quite to the contrary, as a believer in science i find the questions of "how did X come to be?" most interesting.

1. human skin cells: all living cells are descendant from some initial colony that existed on earth billions of years ago. these original life forms replicated numerous times, and mutations occurred along the way. by the process same process of genetic mutation in germ-line cells, animals continue to change their genetic code, producing all sorts of interesting - seemingly "ingenious" - variations on the basic theme of a cell. quite remarkably, our bodies are comprised of trillions of very differently acting cells, which are responsible for all our body's functions (form skin as protection, to our brains which let us ponder the mystery).

2. the solar system very likely existed at one time as a point of energy (wether or not that was it's "beginning" -- if it even has one). space-time expanded rapidly until the energy-density was cool enough for atomic structures to form. with the birth of atoms, clouds of gas began to cool and condense (by the force of gravity) into the stuff from which stars are born. as part of the life cycle of stars, heavy atoms are spewed out to form new clouds of dust, which sometimes condense into smaller bodies called planets which can orbit around the star. this is how our solar system was born, about 5 billion years ago. i, myself, have created complex computer simulations of the phenomena (available on my software website i think!) and am convinced that it is true.

3. the brain is an organ which is composed of billions of structures called nerve cells. each nerve cell is connected to many others (on the order of 10,000 if i recall correctly) by small junctures called synapses. each connection can be thought of as a piece of information. the nerve cells communicate through electro-chemical signals which jump across the synapse by means of neurotransmitters. the way in which we humans are able to achieve intelligence is not fully understood, because nobody has come up with a mathematical way to describe "awareness". however, the basic function of the brain is well understood. how it stores memory: synapses become more or less tightly bonded to form a basic unit of memory, which when combined on the order of a hundred trillion (10 to the 15th), result in a seemingly endless storage space for information and parallel processing capability. i am a computer science major, so i have a terrific appreciation for the ingenuity it would take a human being to design and build a comparable structure using computer technology, if it is even possible at all. the notion that such a structure DID INDEED arise ALL BY ITSELF is very profound. i am happy to be in awe and wonder at this, and feel no need to attribute the miracle of nature to some supernatural being. for me, its just more fun that way.


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