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Gaming has gotten soft.
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Remember when Games drove you to the breaking point?? So many companies are taking the easy, Eye candy route, that it is harder for me to find any real challenge.
"I'm just a cook!" Akido Tenkawa
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by humblemonkey
on 2005-07-18 05:17:33
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Seriously, man, I've begun to notice that too... the other day my friend was beating suikoden 4 and we were just thinking about that. The game was alright, but if more thought was put into it, it could have been a lot better. Where as the first suikoden was mostly content, these days the series seems more focused on graphics, putting everything else second. Seems kinda like game companies aren't really putting much effort into their games. Not a whole lot of character goes into any large number of games like the old days. Maybe thats because those companies half to put more money into the graphics... who knows. On the other hand, some games these days are real works of art... resident evil 4, for instance. But ya, I agree completely. |
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by night_link
on 2005-07-18 11:20:32 (edited 2005-07-18 11:26:21)
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| I wonder what's going to happen in the future? I believe the story should be top priority. Every thing else can wait a while. The games gotta be able to make the player clock a lot of hours. Its not how it sounds like either. If its just gonna be leveling up and leveling up, the fun just dies. The storyline is the first step. Nowadays, when they put one object or ability thats way overpowered, I highly doubt theres hardly going to be any replay value left. Whatever the case is, lets hope it doesn't get any worse. |
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Good point Old Man Kai. It really bugs me when all I do is random battles, nowadays the driving force of my gaming has become the story. It's killed however, when the game gives you all these "Uber-moves" that can easily devastate enemies. If such a move is in a game, it should be equally difficult to obtain. And ultimate weapons are just GIVEN to you? They too should be in the relm of the uber difficult, like the "Weapon" enemies (Ruby and Emerald) of FF7. Also thank you for continuing the thread.
"I'm just a cook!" Akido Tenkawa
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by realshinjae
on 2005-07-19 23:32:20
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Yeah,ur right. Softness is the right answer. Too many softness in the games, too easy, too many freedoms makes the games nowadays become a bore.
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by night_link
on 2005-07-20 14:26:14 (edited 2005-07-20 17:42:12)
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One thing thats been keeping good (in my opinion)... IS HOW THEY ADVERTISE THE GAMES THEY WANT TO SELL!! I mean, whenever I look at trailers for games, the game looks good and all (most of the time its the graphics that helps the advertise. Anyone want to imagine DOA: Beach Volleyball? No way...), but when I sometimes try it... I'm dissappointed. Hey, the threads here at gendou are brilliant. How can I resist joining in? |
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For Devil May Cry it was pretty hard so the ppl made it easier for Devil May Cry 2. Then ppl were complaining that Devil May Cry 2 is too easy so they made Devil May Cry 3 harder than the 1. Here an example of a game that went to hard - soft - very hard. I agree that the games are less challenging. Dunno what the game productor are thinking.  |
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| Ya you gotta point there. Games are all about eye candy now a days but I liked Ninja Gaiden for Xbox it had good eye candy and good gameplay and was challenging in my opinion. But ya most games are getting to easy I remember back when I had a SNES some games would get me so mad I'd slam the controller and sometimes break it. |
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Yes, that evel of challenge I haven't seeen in a looong tme. Usually it's an SNES or earlier game that can make me do that.
"I'm just a cook!" Akido Tenkawa
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| I have to agree that games are easily to passive nowaday. What I don't agree on is what Old Man Kai had to say about the story being the priority. One of the first few games were great not because of the storyline, but because it was challenging and fun. I'll give you the Legend of Zelda; it was popular because the storyline drove you to play it, but all that really matters is the game play. Take the 2D mario games for instance. Everytime you pass a level, when toad or the princess would talk to you, didn't you just want them to shut up and get on to the next level. True, storyline gives the game life, but if you want life, you rent a movie. If you want gameplay, rent a game. |
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by night_link
on 2005-08-06 12:07:51 (edited 2005-08-06 12:08:39)
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| Ahh, thanks for letting me remember that Lith. I honestly didn't think back to the 2D games when I said story was top priority. Have you ever played Bubble Bobble for the NES? That actually had a storyline to it, but I was too addicted to the music to care. Maybe story should be one of the 2nd things to consider about. Your comment makes me a little unsure about that now. |
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by Kuchiki Byakuya
on 2005-10-16 09:38:17
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games are going completely mainstream.more people are playing now then ever, and companies try to compliment this by making games easy. that said, they're definitely going soft. the last good, long, fun game i played was RE4 long ago. companies assume that your average person is too dim to understand games like disgaea,phantom brave,etc., so they try and please the majority, which really sucks for "hardcore" players like most of us. KH2 had better be good an long...
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Devil May Cry series have always been pretty hard, although the second one sorta sucked. I mostly enjoy my story based RPGs anyway. If you want a challenge, play tetris. 
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by Urahara_Kisuke
on 2005-10-16 18:04:35
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there always are challenges to be found in onlime games.... at least the online game i know does
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by Ravensender
on 2005-10-16 21:20:19
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Man, I hate that gaming is now 'mainstream'. Now they lower difficulty and dim down what could be awesome storylines for the "average gamer". Also, more companies taking more getting brillant cues from Hollywood by: cranking out more sequels, making a million clones of anything actully good ('cause if it worked once, it'll work the 10,000th just as well), generic crap factories, and slapping actors and brand names instead of going for quality. The worst part is that it only gets worse in the next-gen. (sigh) I need to work on finding a new hobby.
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on 2005-10-16 21:24:35 |
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they should make a good dropper game, droppers are extremly challenging. I remember the days of games like Doom, even that was kinda easy. The hardest game are games where players compete, because there is always someone better than you, unless you're the best. Games like CS in an asian NetCafe is scary, don't play unless you can headshot with a pistol, or HE atleast 5 people.
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-10-17 14:09:34
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I'm not sure about most games, but all of the games I play are either hard, or have an option to make it hard (such as, the "Hard" difficulty). And also, it's possible that the games were so hard on SNES that people broke the controllers, then the parents would call the company and complain the the child got hurt playing the game, so they made the games less frustrating. For all I know, I'm totally wrong and the games are just getting wayyy too soft. Just tossing out some ideas.  |
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Another good point. About the hard setting though, take Megaman zero 4 as example, the modes are skewed, as the "normal" mode is far easier than the same mode in zero 3, yet I stilll see people posting reviews on how "Hard" the game is. I had more trouble on the first. As for your reference to controller breaking, it is not the games difficulty. I used to have trouble on several older games, but now blow through them relativl easy. Another point is that even the so called "adventure" games nor literally 'point' you where to go. I hate that, when I got Metroid Prime 2, i immediatly turned the hint system off. Why put in a hint system that tells you exactly where to go? I preferred super metroid, where there was a map, but you never were told where to go. Somne games are indeed difficult, but most are just too darned easy. I can see why the multiplayer games are more popular, nothing beats a human opponent.
"I'm just a cook!" Akido Tenkawa
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