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Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by La Divina Tragedia on 2010-03-14 03:35:31 (edited 2010-03-14 05:44:24)
Ah, the lands of human--- built through might, built through pain, built through sacrifice and bloodshed.

Since history started to be written, records shown what kind of a creature we are. Yes, the spirit of Jingoism and Imperialism. The words: "Rule over others", carved in every heads--- the influence may rather weak or strong. In the end, the question will be how much can a person defy the desire, to rule--- to triumph over others, scale of triumphant does not matter- the fact of triumph does.

Even though we may living our peaceful lives now. Time can never tell, for example-- World War I happened because people were actually putting too much effort to prevent any war, which later ended up in extreme suspicion and yet the war people anticipated broke.

United Nations were founded for the sake of keeping peace. However, the organization failed to materialize their purposes. War keeps on raging, be it on Middle East, be it on Africa, be it on Afghanistan and Pakistan... I am going to put a word to conclude those words above: "Chaos".

Abstinence.

Does "coldness" really exists?
No, it does not. "coldness" is just absence of heat that human gave name to.

Does "darkness" really exists?
No, it does not. "Darkness" is just lack of light that human gave name to.

Does "peace" really exists?
Is it merely a name for "abstinence of chaos"?
Or perhaps it is the other way around? No?

Opinions are welcome.

La Divina Tragedia

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by bdog1421 on 2010-03-16 00:00:55
I believe what a person thinks and believes in is mostly based on perception.

Just as in all things, I dont think one can exist without the other. If there was never light, there would never be darkness. The definitions rely on each other for existence.

I believe that both peace and chaos both exist, but can never be constant. Peace can not exist, unless chaos exists, and visa versa. So just like dark and light, we will always have some of both around.

I believe we as humans need to look at the peace as a time for rest, enjoyment and preparation for the coming chaos, and chaos as a time to seek out peace and find strength in ourselves and in each other. This way we will always continue to grow and mature as a people, no matter whether times are hard, or easy.

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by on 2010-03-17 08:43:59
Well Peace does exist but peace however try to stay that way for as long it can.
just like if there's a Creator there will be a Destroyer and such.

this is all i can just say and think about.

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by ss4gogeta0 on 2010-03-22 01:51:08
without chaos the unizerse would not exist

without war we would not exist.... its just basically a balance that must be kept in order for us to exist


Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by on 2010-04-02 00:13:46
I believe eternal peace is not only possible, but will in fact be achieved someday. Saying it cannot be done is just a lazy rationalization of the status quo, it's not something that will arise out of nowhere, we have to create it with our own hands.

People must be educated and lifted from poverty. Ignorance is the source of most mankind's ills. We can start by eliminating world hunger and reforming the education system to teach everyone critical thinking skills. Then at some point society itself must be changed, replaced entirely by a new model, one that is not based off on a zero-sum struggle for power, petty materialism, and the oppression of our fellow human beings.

(I really seem to have become a bit of a hippie lately =D)


Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by Icarael on 2010-04-02 10:00:06
@Rocketg: Ah, but wouldn't "replacing the old society" with a "new society" bring its share of problems? What shall we do with all those who cling to the old ways? Execute them? Brainwash them? Then we'd just be going the way of all those who tried those methods to create "Utopia".

We are bound to encounter resistance on our way to world peace. How will we handle it?

Once we answer that question, I think we can figure out the rest of the problems a little easier.

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by itiscoming on 2010-04-05 16:12:35
If we equate war with chaos, entropy forces us to accept that war is eternal, and ever increasing. But what if we reject the notion that peace is order and war is chaos? I choose to regard all social interaction, including war, as a dynamic, self-correcting system.

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by noonewilluse on 2010-04-06 09:44:12
conflict is a part of life
it's one from a lot of way to do social interaction

if we live in peaceful all the time, it's not a real life and life will be meaningless
just let it flow as the time flows

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by on 2010-04-06 12:42:41
Peace cannot truly exists, for people have failed to understand one another due to Racism, War, power and revenge. To have true peace, people must try to understand one another.

Right now there is now peace at this time and world


Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by on 2010-04-07 05:55:21
or maybe to achieve a peace,a person has to learn satisfaction..
war actually exists because of needing things more than they have..or achieving higher status beyond what they already are..

or maybe another one..
to achieve a peace,easily..is to confront people just like how you confront yourself..
if you treat yourself well,think yourself well,eat well..
and you treat the people same way just like how you treat yourself well..
maybe peace does exists..

to me,'peace' is a definition whereby a person lives the same day over and over without conflicts and harmed on itself even if it is monotonous
that little peace acquired is a little too easy that people replaced it with 'bored',don't you think so?
basically..right now..
most of the people living in this country is living with 'peace'..

(just my opinion though)

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by Wolf on 2010-04-08 19:34:36
You can't really turn war and peace into a dichotomy. You will inevitably cause conflict to attain your peace simply because we aren't built to think as one. Compromise brings you only as far as you are comfortable to go. So then what happens when you are pushed past that point?

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by angel_of_stone on 2010-04-09 08:36:38
Mankind is too diverse for peace to ever exist, or for any form of government to work effectively.

"But as Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means that anything can happen at anytime and for no reason." -Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth

"I don't have any opinions anymore. All I know is that no one is better than anyone else, and everyone is the best at everything." -Seymour Skinner

"...if I got trapped by an evil wizard then I did enough cool s**t in my life to be content with it ending. " -Wolf

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by yoling on 2010-06-19 16:45:25 (edited 2010-06-19 16:47:19)
Personally, i hope peace exists. but i think in reality, it doesnt.
There are no hardcore reasons really, just because we are animals.
we are living organisms with own thoughts and beliefs. Thus, one can not assmilate another and with difference of opinion, comes arguements -> war.
Sigh, i just hope there are no outbreaks of war in my era... too harsh too sad

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by Kazuma on 2010-07-31 17:07:11
My response to what peace really is: the absence of war? Or something else?
On a bad day, I'd say no.
On a good day I'd say yes.
In order for us to live as sucessful, happy mammals, we sometimes MUST fight other humans who threaten us, if for no onther reason than self-defence...

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by williamlcb on 2010-08-01 05:03:51
Honestly, peace does exist, no matter how short it may be. I just wish it would last for a very long time. Perhaps forever.

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by SomeFatMan on 2010-08-01 14:44:08
Peace is just the calm between the wars where we rearm and rebuild.

All joking aside, as stated earlier, War and Peace are two faces of the same coin. Without one, you can not comprehend the other. No day will come when there will be no more war. People, at their core, strive to be better than those around them. Survival of the fittest. Nations, as an extension of people, have conflicts called wars in which they strive to be the best, the fittest. From the beginig of time individuals have conflicted with each other. And until the end of time they will continue to. Nations can not help but face the same eternal struggle. But just as wars will never end, peace will never end. There will be peace in some areas while conflict rages in others.

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by dreamangel0802 on 2010-08-01 16:42:39
In my opinion peace does exists though its not really something that should be based upon war or no war only. Because peace is something that you can also find within your mind/heart at times you feel at ease etc. To me that's a way of peace too. Also the feeling of being all together etc. So yes peace does exist in my opinion. Just on different levels.

Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by gocchin_maki on 2010-08-02 05:12:20
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Correct, peace depends on the situation an individual is involved in. We are humans and everyday we struggle to live and to that we can't find absolute peace on the outward, but regardless of those sufferings, we find it within ourselves as such that we are harmonious to everything that surrounds us -- that is one kind of peace. IMO

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Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by on 2010-08-13 12:27:01 (edited 2010-08-20 04:42:38)
Peace is possible if everyone understands another, and does not conflict with each other.

Now then, how is this achieved? By brainwashing every single human to become ethical zombies. Then, peace is achieved.

But then, if the above ever happened, can we truly call them humans anymore? It basically means to have peace is to have no emotion and free will.

Then the conclusion would be that....peace is not applicable to humans?


Despite all I wrote, I don't want to believe that. Although this following statement is baseless and does not hold any groud in any intellectual argument;

"I believe we can achieve peace someday." - I stand by these words


Re: Does Peace Really Exists?
Link | by Scorpia on 2010-08-29 18:01:51 (edited 2010-08-29 18:10:12)
Peace.
I define it as a brief period of perceived levels of cohesion within the social structure by which all outstanding members have attained a sufficient level of satisfaction from their freedoms to act where violence or social rejection have not occurred beyond a certain scale or mass of people.
This is possible.

Peace that is everlasting and indefinite is not.
Conflicts will continue to occur over and over.
Perceived differences, human will to superiority, indoctrination, influence and identity, position and status quo, imbalances within hierarchies, etc.

It is foolish to believe within all these interactions, within all these external motives and internal drives, on a cognitive, sociological, emotional, societal level that is possible to maintain a centered equilibrium where all levels are in harmony from the perspective of an individual and from a societal point of view.

Whereever there are humans, there is conflict. It will continue to shape and transform our society over and over.
We are not a singularity or a collective who all think alike thus not all will hold the same values, beliefs, thoughts, emotions, ideas, perspectives and eventually this will escalate into an outbreak of war from these perceived differentations where one attempts to unify another. We can increase our tolerance towards differences, but I rationalize from a scientific point of view that scarcity will always exist thus when resources are limited, peace cannot exist and also that we will hold these conceptualized notions of maintaining an identity by which will continue to be challanged therefore conflict or war, I say, is inevitable.

Man has desires.
Man cannot ever be satisfied.
This is a double-edged sword that has advanced our civilization yet is a curse to all of us. This dualistic creation and destruction point of view, retraction and extension, forward and backward tug of war motion is what I envision of civilization. Particles and waves moving outward and inward, it seems to be a force that drives us...chaos I suppose. Order within chaos.

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