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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2009-04-30 09:03:22
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I've thought a lot about this, and I can't help but think that, potentially, piracy is a huge boon to the music industry. Of course it depends on individual people's actions, but what better (and free) way is there to advertise music? --I'm not in support of blatant piracy of hundreds and hundreds of songs, with no intent of paying for any of them ever, but pirating a few songs here and there is a great way to expose yourself to a variety of new music. Once you decide you like a song, then you could pirate more songs from the same album or artist, and then decide if it would be cheaper for you to buy the album - used or new - or to buy the songs from iTunes, AmazonMP3, or some other similar place. Not only do you get all the music you want whenever you want, you also get it at whatever price is cheapest for you when you decide to buy it, and then on top of that the artist is still supported. --Thinking of things this way, would it be possible to potentially encode a death date of MP3s that would make the MP3 become corrupted after 30 days? I figure that only a few sites would support that since they'd lose popularity by doing so, but if there was some way to encode all MP3s to do that except for when downloaded from paysites or when ripped from a CD, piracy would be greatly reduced. People could still listen to music they like for a while, so while people would still download music to listen to it, they'd have to purchase the song eventually - unless they don't mind re-downloading a song every month. --Anyone have any viewpoints on this? As far as I know, there's no topic like this out there - if there is, post a link to it and I'll delete or lock this thread.  |
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my state lots of selling pirte DVD,VC dan CD...I don't like them...the police and state council didn't take action them...I so angry about police and state council...   |
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yeah times are changing... the only way to stop pirates is that "internet two" thing, where goverments take control and the net becomes just a glorified television. since that isn't happening, media industries will just have to stop relying on "property" that can be infinitely replicated and distributed at no cost. IE.. musicians do tours, filmmakers focus on the movie theaters and games get monthly fees or only get made for consoles. It's already happening. |
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| We all know that piracy is bad and all cuz it infringes the copyright law, however, it has its plus sides too. Like for people who can't afford to buy the music from iTunes or in CDs or for the people who lives in places where these services or shows that they want to watch are unavailable. Thus I feel that there is a meed for piracy, but just for own personal use and not republishing them distributing them or even worse, selling them to someone else. |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2009-05-25 21:09:54
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Ah, but if everyone pirated music for themselves - didn't sell it, share it, or exploit it, only download it for personal use - then imagine how much money the artists would be losing. If we imagine a song getting downloaded by 1,000,000 people (entirely possible for the more popular songs), and only half the population paid for it, the artist essentially had $500,000 lost - more than enough for a family to live for a few years. Granted, music is more expensive than normal middle-class living, but half a million dollars is a lot. With so many songs out there, and so much of it being pirated, the music industry is in dire straits (citation needed, I know, but I've heard more than once that music is generating less and less revenue over the years - likely due to piracy). Is it really in our interest to pirate it? I mean, music's not exactly free to produce. |
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by OmegaPhatts
on 2009-05-26 23:42:53
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The thing is, sometimes it's better to download one or two songs than to buy the whole album, because it may be only those songs that you like! Several times, I have bought CDs, only to like one or twos songs on it and the rest just plain suck (I am lookin at YOU Linkin Park). So it bascially comes down to buying that ONE song that you like for $18.99 & up, and getting a bunch of songs that you probably won't like with it.
"Suffer the little ones, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless." Druid's Call, from Magic: The Gathering
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2009-05-27 18:47:37
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For those, you can use iTunes - or for those Apple haters out there, AmazonMP3 (which is what I use). You can get single songs for a dollar or so each. While I still sometimes buy albums (usually used, for $5-$10 each) if I like a lot of songs, I also buy singles sometimes. It's really not that expensive, especially if you were to buy yourself lunch one time less every month, and buy 5-10 songs instead. |
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by divineoctopus
on 2009-05-29 21:10:43
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"death date" ? It's called DRM. Because of it there was rage, and there were sh*tstorms. Obviously some of them are just looking forward to getting everything for FREE. Some have valid reasons. But others, it's pretty funny how they try to justify piracy. - 'I have the right to watch the WHOLE movie/listen to the WHOLE song to see if I like it so that I won't waste my money' (what happened to reviews/recommendations? And lol, the right! I wonder why it never existed before the internet.) - 'I don't want to buy the whole album for one song' (well look like we already have one such guy here, it's called 'being uninformed') - 'I can't get that new album where I live' (what happened to online purchases? Even in the weirdest circumstances where you can't get it legally online, you won't die just because you don't have that new song/movie. Well nobody will die because of having no computers either, but hey). - 'The big corporations will have to adapt, or die! I can has pirated media!' (...) Attributing loss of revenue to piracy is the best way to piss off those pirates (who are, ironically, potential customers because they will occasionally buy a few things here and then out of kindness - Godcomplexed pirates). Just like you can't prove UFO doesn't exist, you can't prove piracy is directly harming your revenue (duh what happened to the economical crisis? It's not like you're the only one in deep sh*t right now). Piracy is a pretty hot button right now, you either try please those pirates or piss them off (and watch as hilarity ensues). |
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$500,000... Like that really matters when one is such a superstar already? Even if the loss is actually more than that, i don't think piracy is gonna make any of them sleep in the streets. See for yourself, piracy all over the years and they're still around making new hits. and money. when it's wrong by law to pirate stuffs, it's also good advertising. More people know their names and their songs that way. Even, ideally speaking, singers should be proud of themselves knowing that people would break the law just to listen to their songs and sharing it to the world :P That said, i'll never say no to piracy, and continue to download songs for free as long as god permits. |
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by Psyco_bongun22
on 2009-08-28 00:42:22 (edited 2009-08-28 00:46:07)
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i think these record industry is just being a greedy pig.....they sell overpriced cds on limited teritories...they're just trying to get your money on to their already big pockets... ...yup they offer download...but not all of the users had a internet wallet..... ....they also offer free streaming of TV series on the internet....but most of them are limited to territory.... internet is like an ocean....take dip on it...and you're connected to the whole world.... .. ....file sharing community should be the future of media distribution distribution....and it deserves to be free or almost free...because the downloaders are also the distributors....
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on 2009-08-28 01:11:22 |
The US music industry doesnt deserve my money. Why? The music being produced now is trash. And Oh in those rap videos where the artist throws money around, thats ppls hard earned money being treated like crap. Jp music on the other hand, i buy because i know im getting quality music. If the US industry loses money then i dont give a damn at all.  Part of the new age Gendou RP veterans: Kira, Rukia, KM Revolution, Smoker, Avian, L, and Ryu. |
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I saw this topic discussed on TV, like, a long, long time ago. Not sure if time just took care of it, but yeah nobody cares about free downloads anymore. It's obvious free downloads is a positive into the music industry. My opinion is with free dLs, it not only helps the music industry, but saves and builds it. Why complain? Artists gain more recognition which leads to more fans which leads to more sells which leads to mo' money. Record labels are happy, musicians are happy, and especially fans are happy. It's not like today is "free dL here, free dL there". If fans can afford to purchase music themselves, they do. From my perspective, this is almost common everywhere and the system about this, is pretty set. There are people out there that just straight up dL just because it's free, but hey, you gotta love your fans. I respect people that purchase the music of the artists they enjoy listening to, but just because you buy something and another fan doesn't, it's unfair to say they're wrong. [@kiralight] Don't categorize all American music as "trash". I think you're referring more into mainstream rap, which is garbage. Brings up the case of artists being overrated and overpaid for producing horrible music (e.g. Lil' Wayne)? Perhaps so. Then again it's the case of what's "good" and what's "popular", plus more. About the money being thrown, those are just worthless video props. It's not like donations from civilian weekly paychecks. 
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For props, that stuff looks pretty damn real lol. O_o But seriously though im talking about the majority of the industry. Its been awhile since i actually liked all genres of american music. I mean nowadays i listen to variety stations and turn it off almost 5-10 minutes later. I think its all about money money money and popularity wiTH the artists nowadays. They just produce trash for a pay check. Haha no joke the only american artist i only like now is Britney spears. She is making a comback literally. Part of the new age Gendou RP veterans: Kira, Rukia, KM Revolution, Smoker, Avian, L, and Ryu. |
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EW Britney spears. but I agree with Ennis.  |
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by kaw kaw chapdong
on 2009-09-01 20:53:34
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| oh i love pirated DVD it cost cheaper and the quality also good almost same as the original dvd... |
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by SomeFatMan
on 2009-09-10 16:30:06
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| All people, not just the media industry need to realize that the concepts of intellectual property are changing in the new digital age. When everything is as connected as it is now we need to realize that the digital information that represents or encompasses intellectual property is ripe for the taking by anyone anywhere. Compaines need to change their buisness models to relflect these changing times. They should host website with free downloads of their songs or movies (or as some are doing - streaming the movies and shows) while including ads to generate revenue. People are looking for free and quick - as long as those two criteria are met they will not look to break the law. If I had to chose between illegally downlaoding a song or legally doing the same for the sma elow price of free, I would chose legal. I would not mind sitting through a commerical or seeing an ad if it meant I got the product for free. |
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My view on this is that as long as you don't profit from it and don't give it away it shouldn't be illegal and the media industry has a stick-up-their-ass about this anyway
Bad girlfriends last a week, but herpies last for ever
-uncle Richard
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uh...I agree with van. |
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If I may rant for I bit I hate the modern music industry. They sign crap artist. They b!tch and moan when yo upload the little know artist form 30 years ago that they signed. They b!tch and moan even more when up upload artist from the company hey only recently bought. And then get you kicked off the site for uploading the music you paid 20 dollars for. Thanks for listening to my rant
Bad girlfriends last a week, but herpies last for ever
-uncle Richard
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2009-09-15 20:35:40
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Hmm, well, I can see why they would be annoyed. Picture if you tried to make a living off of selling some software, but people pirated it and you lost money over the whole thing. Wouldn't you feel rather cheated? Like people stole your software? @Van: They can sign whatever crappy artists they want -- if you don't like the artists, then don't pay for their music. Don't listen to it, even! Go find some artist you do like, and go get their music. Also, if you download a pirated copy of a song for yourself, the only way you'd be able to get it is if you got it from someone else who didn't keep the music for himself, correct? That would mean someone else didn't keep his music to himself -- so by pirating someone else's song, you're supporting someone who's not keeping his music to himself: whether he paid for it or not. Any objections? |
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