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Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2007-11-08 00:49:12 (edited 2007-11-09 14:21:31)
Guys, if you have the guts reading my latest thread, please, I encourage you.

*UPDATED VERSION!!!*
Heard the news about the 18-year old Finnish mass murderer Pekka Auvinen. I was absolutely mad and disappointed that he brought up another kind threat and fear which relates to this April's VT Massacre. I was truly shocked that this murderer was being serious over this unforgiving act--- to randomly (maybe) kill any students in a school (sources say that was not the school he went... not sure). And such unnerving action to inform those students go to that school via YouTube. Some listened and avoided his threat, some thought it was just a prank.

Then it wasn't a prank. Outcome was 8 students were shot dead, along with a principal of that school. As usual, the murderer killed himself.

What really makes me mad is why on Earth would internet users (does not have to be killers, can be liars too) MISUSE the powers of the internet to the extreme? WHy must they perform threatening acts by this wonderful kind of communication technology? What is wrong with the internet users nowadays??? Of all the safety measures been put to place to protect the safety of users, and some users breached and ridiculously using Internet for unbenefiting acts.

What is this? I say I won't blame the Government. I won't blame the legislation. I blame the person who started all this nonsense and threat.

Come on, post up your opinions! We need our views to be seen for a better understanding!

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by ~aozora~ on 2007-11-08 00:55:45
i guess i could agree with you... but TO ALL INTERNET USERS!!!! pls stay away from any messages or threats that you do not trust... it can cause you and your computer harm... try not to meet up with any internet friends you've made, the "internet friend" of yours may want to kill, rape or harm you...

"I hope to share my stories with everyone one day, and that it will bring tears and joy as they enter my fantasy world..."

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2007-11-08 02:15:41
yah ryt.. some people u meet over the internet can never be trusted thats soo true but sum can be friends too...

obviously these people hev nothing to do with their lives so they threaten people even just through the net... >.< dont trust people u dont know... thats the solution to this prob i guess xDD


Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2007-11-08 12:45:32 (edited 2007-11-09 14:12:05)
Of course, a thing of trust is truly significant in all our lives. But when you said do not trust anybody, won't that make you less aware of any serious (can be life-threatening) events? Like this situation, if this killer had not put a threatening notice vid on YouTube, there'll probably be a higher death count than this death count of 8. Somehow, some YouTube users enrolled in that school was being warned by that maniac. Those who ignored did not trust the maniac's words, looking at common-sense. Trust somebody is risky, but he/she does not have to gain full trust in anybody, only just making sure he/she is aware of one's acts and behaviours within the community.

I do agree to your view, vie. Some internet users are just so isolated from social life~ and ironically, isolate themselves from open social internet life as well! WHy would they waste their time pondering in their hate over the world today? Why not find something in the internet that can provide him/her some escapism, like joining in a certain forums, fanclubs, anything that provides healthy, communication towards others.

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2007-11-08 13:08:08 (edited 2007-11-09 17:13:37)
I'm not sure what your trying to get at. Is it corruption of the internet, the increasing stupidity of the site owners who are oblivious to these videos until after the event has occurred, or the instability of today's youth.

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Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by Ulto Leif on 2007-11-08 16:07:10 (edited 2007-12-16 20:35:07)
"What really makes me mad is why on Earth would internet users (does not have to be killers, can be liars too) MISUSE the powers of the internet to the extreme? WHy must they perform threatening acts by this wonderful kind of communication technology? What is wrong with the internet users nowadays??? Of all the safety measures been put to place to protect the safety of users, and some users breached and ridiculously using Internet for unbenefiting acts."

First, half the misinformation is unintentional or not ill-intended; a largely sized peice of it is bad phrasing and the slightly misinformed spreading information that is anything from blatantly untrue or just false enough to misinform others. Another decent slice of the misinformation pie is people making things up to either make themselves look smarter, to prove a point in a flame war (in this case with fabricated information), or as an often not ill-humored (at least from the jokers perspective...) sort of prank or joke. Only a tiny fraction of the people on the internet take a perverse pleasure in spreading lies for the sake of spreading lies.

Second, in direct regards to the above, the reson the internet is such a nest of lies is a direct consequence of unsure ethos... ethos being the persuasive aspect of how one appears to their audience. You don't know who you're talking to, nor can you hear their face, nor see their voice... In an unadorned forum, your only clue is pretty much the vocabulary and literary skill of the author, and in a short enough statement not even that is of use. I could elaborate on this phenomenon, but as frequent internet-goers yourselves I think most of you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, and thirdly... Don't talk about 'unbenifieting acts' on a site that uploads fansubs and is defined in it's very existance by non-paying music downloads. From many people's point of veiw, this group here exemplifies that phrase, and I do not mean that in a Good Way.

Sore wa... himitsu.

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2007-11-09 09:42:14 (edited 2007-11-10 01:40:26)
@Ulto- I don't mind if the world of internet is filled with lies--- we users have the priviledge to make lies under the safety measures. As long the lies are not persuasive, and should not be 'good to be true' statements. What I meant by 'unbenefiting acts' is not because it's not according to standards, and I never think this site is a part of it. It depends on the users' responsibility on how he/she uses any website.

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by zparticus27 on 2007-11-15 04:57:37
simply that the thought of being anonymous at times on the internet makes it prone to these pranks,lies and to the extreme the act you just stated at your first post...but really pointing fingers would solve nothing

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by fishbane on 2007-11-15 08:27:38 (edited 2007-11-15 08:28:06)
I think it's the anonymity factor on the internet that allows people to be mean. Since they suffer no reputation loss or anything in the real world, they think it's fine to do stuff that they normally wouldn't do. That's just the way people work.

However, people less internet-smart are naive, and actually believe these lunatic ramblings. Which of you HASN'T seen some person on some forum or chat room pretending that they are mass murderers? They identify with these people, and think that killing people is valid and acceptable in society, because, hey, everybody talks about it online.

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Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by Mystic Deadman on 2007-11-15 23:31:36
But the fact that people remain anonymous does not not stop or change the fact that this is a serious issue and needs to be monitored. Messages that include violent threats or videos that portray violent acts need to be taken seriously.

And the value of anonymity has gone down. Now it's possible to trace instant messages, message posts, e-mails, and other information back to the location it originated from by tracing the IP addresses of said information. Using that to their advantage, large sites can trace such violent messages back to the location of the user and notify the proper authorities.

Therein lies another problem. There are so many people in so many places that can access the Internet that these kinds of messages can go unnoticed. We've gotten so used to the idea that these are just random people shooting their mouths off that the actual threats and videos are disregarded like other messages. There are many sites that have rules against these kinds of messages, but they don't exercise the power to contact the proper authorities because it can be too inconvenient, pointless, or they may not have the message anymore.

In order to help solve this problem, it is necessary for Internet users to become more aware of potential threats to themselves and others.

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by RayStormX on 2008-11-20 01:25:10
in a sick and twisted sense, this person who made the warning and posted it on the internet actually might have reduced the number of unnecessary deaths. I have very little to work with, but I assume (and my argument is already falling apart just because of that) if he had not posted that, the casualties of the incident would be somewhat greater.

your argument is flawed....if he is warning people, in a way, it's not misusing the internet. on the otherhand, if we had not known whether or not to take this seriously, it could have caused alot of absences in that school and spread fear amongst the students. if you were talking about people trolling on forums and hacking accounts and whatnot, we would have more solid responses from people. but instead, we're given a controversial example that poorly relates to the question and seems more prominent than the question itself.

people do these things to advance their hidden agendas. the terrorist cell behind 9/11 used a simple email account to communicate with each other by saving their messages as drafts and then viewing the drafts by accessing the email account.


usually, however, most people do it for the lulz. trolling forums and hacking their ex girlfriends account, etc.

Raystormx wooo maplestory

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by on 2008-11-20 04:16:13
Ray, you did brought up a good point from the argument~ okay, so the killer did gave an advanced warning to those who are open to the dangers he's gonna let out, and I guess it did made some people to stay away on the next day, for safety reasons.

Internet is a fabulous kind of communication--- text, voice, pictures--- no one would say internet is useless.

But I absolutely hate it when users use internet as a thing of spreading fear in masses, especially the users who are killers. And why would some users would sacrifice themselves to get into huge trouble when using the internet?? Did they hardly care of the consequences after that?

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by Bonta_kun on 2008-11-20 11:52:20
if it's about the misuse of something the internet is not the only one that is being misused. almost everything that goes into the wrong hands can be misused. some times even the law can be misused(communist counties).

it really just comes down to the one who is using the net. I guess we should just be careful. thats just the perk of the net, you can be anonymous. It is useful but it can be used for evil purposes.

almost everything in this world is like a double edge sword.

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by RayStormX on 2008-11-21 00:32:07
had the killer decided not to use the internet, he may have passed word around through notes, word by mouth, etc. communication is not limited to the internet....

completely off topic. I told you that this example would nearly absorb the topic.

Raystormx wooo maplestory

Re: Some Internet Users' Behaviour (renamed title)
Link | by υƞιϲo on 2008-11-22 00:33:49
Things to take in mind while meeting Internet friends is to avoid quiet places and going alone.Try meeting up at a megamall along with your cousins.It is definitely safer.


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