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need help ASAP sad mobo moment
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on 2007-08-28 11:06:44 |
Well the most unbelievable thing has just happened. My mom's friend's son which is maybe 12 or 13 years old locked me out of my mom's computer and she blames me for it now T_T. I don't know where he learned it or why he did it but now before my bios posts it asks for a password. I tried to reset the CMOS and there's no avail is there a way to reset the password?  |
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Re: need help ASAP sad mobo moment
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on 2007-08-28 11:11:33 (edited 2007-08-28 11:19:34)
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What BIOS do you have first of all. IBM, AMI, etc. You could use software, hardware or a backdoor BIOS password to reset the one the little snot (Computer kids are a pain aren't they?) set. There is one other way that you might try if backdoor passwords won't work and you've got nothing left to try. If you completely disconnect the BIOS/CMOS from a power supply it should be forced to reset everything to default values. Then all you have to do is enter the default password. You also might try taking a look at the motherboard, some motherboards have jumpers on them used to rest the BIOS or CMOS.    |
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Re: need help ASAP sad mobo moment
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on 2007-08-28 11:18:41 |
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Well the Bios is form an MSI km4sv or something like that i'll find out the exact model # tonight but you are saying if i disconnect he mobo form the PSU and then reset the cmos it should set it back to default? But wouldn't the battery in it keep the info or do i have to remove that also? If that doesn't work what is the backdoor BIOS pw you say? and how do you do that? |
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on 2007-08-28 11:24:42 (edited 2007-08-28 11:31:23)
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If your going to do it mechanically then you would need to unplug the computer and then remove the battery supplying the backup power that maintains the BIOS/CMOS. Give it a while after removing the battery though. After that you'll need to start the computer again and enter the BIOS config. Chose to reset it to default settings and the passwords should be gone. Backdoor passwords are used usually for maintenance purposes. The backdoor password is unique to the maker. They'll all have a different password. (I'm making a good guess here that you know all about this stuff right? Because just about anything can happen when your trying to mess with a computer on your own and I'm only giving advice to you based on what I've done with public computers.) |
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Re: need help ASAP sad mobo moment
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on 2007-08-28 11:31:02 |
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I know my cup of tea but i am guessing i don't enough since i am asking for help on gendou. I mean i know how to build a computer since i do it weekly as a job/hobby but when it comes to these kinds of things and software i am smart as a monkey |
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on 2007-08-28 11:36:15 |
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Don't worry about it, this is probably the site I would trust most when it comes to computer problems, at least you can get straight answers here rather than spend hours on a help line and not get anywhere. Another note about battery removal, be careful and check to see if the battery is either held in place by clips or soldered on. If soldered then be careful with how you take it out, or consider finding someone who can do it properly. |
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on 2007-08-28 17:27:21 |
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Ok i'll take that advice is there a way to tell if it's soldered on and if it is Soldered on how would you remove it and put it back on? |
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on 2007-08-28 17:37:59 (edited 2007-08-28 17:38:57)
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Well it's not too hard to figure out. Take a look at the battery and if there's a casing holding it. Generally most computers have a 'release' for the battery. Example If it looks something like this then you can just push in the release and take the battery out. You'll get it eventually so not really something to worry a lot about. I have only encountered a few soldered batteries so far so yours probably doesn't have one. |
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on 2007-08-28 22:20:08 (edited 2007-08-28 22:23:13)
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Just remove the Cell Battery (commonly called "Clock Battery") in your motherboard and put it back after 10 seconds (3 sec. - reset previous saved in Bios, 10 sec. - Security and Password Reset, 20-30 sec. - Reset all Bios Settings to Default) But be sure to touch some metal objects (ex: screws in your PC Case) to remove static from your hands before removing the Cell Battery (static can cause ICs to malfunction, expecially your motherboard). Just use a piece of tube-like-plastic object or even your finger to push the clip that holds the Battery in place. After you did it, it will be removed instantly. In putting it back, just be sure that the "-" sign is placed under the clock-pin and the "+" sign is at the top portion. The Cell Battery is not soldered or place permanently in the motherboard. It is only clipped and can be remove in easy steps. Just read the computer manuals of your PC. |
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on 2007-08-29 08:48:57 (edited 2007-08-29 09:15:52)
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@Ruy- Actually batteries can be soldered on to the motherboard and no soldering does not lock the battery in place forever, soldering is a common and easy task to preform when working on computers. Also, static isn't something to take much precaution in, unless you regularly wear wool sweaters in a carpeted room while working on electronic devices, in which case you shouldn't even be allowed near them for your own personal safety. I suggest leaving the battery out for 30+ seconds at the least, then go through what I just told you. |
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on 2007-08-29 22:50:03 |
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okay okay cool i just followed what both of you said and i thank you it works perfectly now but for some reason i had to replace the batt because when i plugged in the original battery it prompted the password again but when i put in a battery form another motherboard it worked perfectly fine. Weird i think not but i don't mind too much since it came form a Dead motherboard. But thanks for hte tip the battery trick worked like a charm. I will come back again in hte future wiht more computer problems i cant solve. =D |
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on 2007-08-30 03:58:36 (edited 2007-08-30 04:11:15)
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For Jonathan: I just read what you say, but it is like a miss-read or misunderstood in terms what I write here. For clarification... 1. I know that batteries can be soldered with a soldering rod and soldering lead. I know that already, but in terms of now, most computers have clipped suckets for the battery cell for motherboards. In previous Motherboards used for 186, 086, 8086, 8088, or computers form the past 80's or 70's have soldered Cell Battery for the BIOS (I can't remmember what is the past name of BIOS in that time). And it is not possible that GMSniper is using a 186 Computer in this day. So I just said, "The Cell Battery is not soldered or place permanently in the motherboard. It is only clipped and can be remove in easy steps. Just read the computer manuals of your PC". I only say it to encourage him that it is not TOO HARD to remove a Cell Battery in the motherboard. Am I right? 2. One thing more (in term of your statement, "no soldering does not lock the battery in place forever"), there is an electronic device with FIXED Battery Cell imbedded in its IC, or what I mean it's IC is it's battery cell. From what I say, it is permanent. Research on what kind of electronic device is that. I will say "you will be shocked" if you know that. And importantly, if you soldered your battery cell, you can also take it off by soldering too. 3. 30 Seconds or more can Reset your BOIS to Default Factory Setting. If someone tune-up your PC to give good performance using a BIOS Setup and you put out the battery for that long time, I will say it will go back to "Not-Tuned-Up" PC. It is a good advice if you want to reset one portion only, reset that portion only but not reset the entire settings of that whole portion. 4. I don't wear WOOL clothings and I don't like Carpets because I got Allergies in furry objects and dust (especially carpets). I know that WOOL can cause static. Even though I have nothing wool in my room, I always do the precaution, I always touch metal objects to avoid ruining my electronic/PC devices. In fact rubbing your hands and combing or brushing your hair can produce static electricity in your fingertips that is dangerous in ICs in electronic devices. For GMSniper: In replacing a Cell Battery, be sure that the Cell Battery has a exact voltage that the motherboard is needed for its BIOS. Check the Voltage of your Old Cell Battery from your PC. |
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on 2007-08-30 05:14:12 (edited 2007-08-30 05:33:28)
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soldering the batteries is not a good idea.... and batteries is not soldered... :P it may damage the motherboard if you solder it (i think).. and you'll gotta change the battery once it worn out, right?! (which is obviously -- yes! =P)  |
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on 2007-08-30 23:36:35 (edited 2007-08-30 23:39:32)
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- For Sawada Shin Battery Cells ca be soldered in the motherboard by an expert electrician or solderer. With the help of Heat Minimizer Clip, Soldering Accessory Tools, and Less Watt Thin Tip Soldering Gun, it can be minimize the risk of heating the board and the battery. Sawada, read all the discussion (especially the questioners head topic) in this topic in order to understand what the questioner's needed help in solution to his problem. Also research or know some topics that can benefit the questioner to fix his problem. OK! |
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on 2007-08-31 23:40:54 |
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well thanks for all of your help it works perfectly and what not |