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| that's GOOD! |
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on 2007-09-20 04:10:09 |
| What serial killer? /zomg waaaaahh |
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| i guess cutie-san thinks it's bad! it's really good! it makes me shiver... |
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on 2007-09-20 04:26:09 |
| Oh lol xD... hmm... Serial Killer ftw? xD |
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on 2007-09-21 05:20:42 (edited 2007-09-24 08:01:50)
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If killing other serial killers be a "necessary evil" and you'll just watch as they kill each other, about every single human being would be wiped off the planet eventually. Being a serial killer who kills other serial killers is NOT a proper solution to the problem. Serial killers are good? I hope you're sarcastic.   |
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on 2007-10-02 01:05:34 (edited 2007-10-02 01:07:08)
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Serial killer kills serial killer, huh? My opinion, both of them are not bad. They are not necessarily be branded evil, inhumane and immoral to the community. And it's an unusual activity for a serial killer to kill another serial killer. Why? Won't that breaking the code of serial killing? I mean, in simple english, won't that be blasphemous for one killer to kill the predecessor (one before the latest killer)? Is that against the principles of the serial killing? It'll be a blasphemous competition. Can be many ways people interpret your question: - Can this help to restore law and order? Immorally??? - Can this means an illegal competition? - Can this be involved with recent or past activity(ies)??? - Can this just a breaking up principles of serial killing to the extreme??? Another one: I am trying to be psychologically logical here, along with my past experiences over my views on serial killers (don't worry, it's a past. I don't think about that anymore. Maybe this will be an exception, just for the sake of this argument). You mentioned whether a serial killer is good or bad, regardless of the crimes done. Under the eyes of law, definitely yes--- because we all live according to the law (that includes free speech) therefore he/she disobeys law and order of the country, therefore brought immorality and discrimination and immeasurable threat to the citizens of the country. But in psychological view, a serial killer cannot call him/herself good or bad, since a human can change his/her views which is good or bad. It's up to the serial killer to admit with liberty to protect his/her rights. That's not important anymore (I think) to serial killers, for now they are all facing death. In that point, to know whether he/she is good or bad, it's not important anymore. Death will eventually put them in peace, nothing more of hatred and opposition within their graves. |
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on 2007-10-02 02:19:59 (edited 2007-10-02 02:21:27)
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Yes I am being sarcastic ._. Am just playing with Kiseno-chan... uggghh I would never have thought that it is good >_> Ack..~! |
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for me serial killers killing each other is good!! so that all of them will die and their clan will come to an end hahaha ^.^ 
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on 2007-10-02 03:20:28 (edited 2007-10-02 03:21:28)
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Why can't serial killers just stop their bloody acts of crime???!?? Why must it involve killing one's life to pay for stopping situations?!?!? Doesn't matter if he/she kills another killer or an innocent passerby, but why? Is killing really destroys all problems? Surely most killers are in death row, but they should have their idea to make a better life while living in jail. It's not cold anymore, only it's more restricted but the main thing that prisoners always wanted: companionship. Having cell mates (and penpals) prove to be more valuable than wasting many more lives. Like I said, good or bad of a person won't be important anymore when waiting for death. So kill both clans to end all matters. Wow, how ethnically cleansing. Just kill them all to solve humanity crisis. You know we don't live in an anime world! XD Is there something wrong with changes?? Instead of causing rivalry and wars (mass or civil), why can't both sides be truce and give chance to start over and be more civilised, that is impose more fair laws and reasonable punishments, by the use of democracy. |
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on 2007-10-02 06:14:24 (edited 2007-10-02 06:14:48)
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Nice solution you submitted there. Problem is, are they all willing to change? There's no point if they're not. And, once again, killing serial killers to solve the problem isn't the right solution. |
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on 2007-10-02 09:11:32 |
| Of course there'll be no point if they are not willing to change... aah, why change is always spared but not many want to use it... |
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by Mystic Deadman
on 2007-10-02 09:16:47 (edited 2007-11-15 23:52:53)
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Okay w00t0s, you asked for it... [rant] And it's an unusual activity for a serial killer to kill another serial killer. Why? Won't that be breaking the code of serial killing? Uhh, no? Last I checked, there is no code for serial killing. Serial killers will kill anyone within their profile, if they even have one. This includes other serial killers. Another one: I am trying to be psychologically logical here, along with my past experiences over my views on serial killers (don't worry, it's a past. I don't think about that anymore. That's good. You mentioned whether a serial killer is good or bad, regardless of the crimes done. Under the eyes of law, definitely yes--- because we all live according to the law (that includes free speech) therefore he/she disobeys law and order of the country, therefore brought immorality and discrimination and immeasurable threat to the citizens of the country. Good point, but I'd like to know where freedom of speech came into play. That was off-topic. Why can't serial killers just stop their bloody acts of crime???!?? Why must it involve killing one's life to pay for stopping situations?!?!? Doesn't matter if he/she kills another killer or an innocent passerby, but why? Is killing really destroys all problems? Wow. Could you write that without all the question marks and exclamation points? To answer your questions, 1. Often times, serial killers cannot stop their murderous ways because their mindset forces them to want to kill. Sometimes, killer want to stop. The fact that they have blood on their hands, however, can cause the killer to go insane and continue killing. 2. Ending life is not a method to put an end to a situation for a killer. Most often, it's a release. Serial killers can get a feeling of bliss or euphoria when they kill. 3. What? 4. I think you mean, "Does killing really solve problems?" To which I say no. Killing only leads to more killing, or so the saying goes, yes? Taking a life affects everyone the victim was attached to. Sometimes, a victim's relation can become mentally disturbed because of the loss, and may seek some kind of revenge against the original killer. In a worst-case scenario, the relation finds the killer, kills them, and becomes a killer themselves due to the feeling they get from exacting revenge. Killing never solves problems. It only makes them worse. Surely most killers are in death row... This cannot be proven, since a serial killer can arise at any given time at any given place for any given reason. There's no way to accurately track potential killers, so we cannot safely say that most serial killers are in prison. So kill both clans to end all matters. Wow, how ethnically cleansing. Wow, I didn't realize that serial killers were their own race. Oh, wait. That's right. They're not. They're people, just like you and me. Just with more violent tendencies. Is there something wrong with changes?? Instead of causing rivalry and wars (mass or civil), why can't both sides be truce and give chance to start over and be more civilised, that is impose more fair laws and reasonable punishments, by the use of democracy. You make a good point, here. Unfortunately, not all people around the world are willing to make changes so easily. Most of the time, people will not see eye-to-eye on certain issues and refuse to change their stand on said issues. This causes complications between countries, making truces and treaties difficult to establish or maintain. [/rant] P.S. sorry gendou-sama. I had to borrow your html tags. |
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on 2007-10-02 14:12:37 |
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Morally, bad. Funny thing I've seen regarding serial killers is that, most of them will always get a girl, while in prison. There was also a story about one getting married behind bars. I don't know why girls like them but evidently there are people out there.  |
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on 2007-10-03 05:59:53 |
usually for me i think it is good  |
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on 2007-10-03 19:40:59 |
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^Lol. Depends on how you view them. Morally Serial Killers are bad. But what's good or evil? It's just something we humans made up. Anyways, I disapprove the killing part of them, whatever the reason. Now going into another perspective, They are lowering the human population thus somewhat preventing overpopulation. Which is sort of a good thing. Anyways, some people in this thread said some good points about them (although I don't really approve of serial killers though). It depends on the person. Gotta love philosophy. There never one single view people will have. |
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Most serial killers kill someone who fits a profile of a person they knew who abused,rejected, or hurt them in a way. Now for a person to become a serial killer that kills serial killers someone in their family or that person were somehow abused in a way by serial killers. I don't think it's a good because you would become what you hate most. Also for those who keep saying serial killers kill for no reason, there is always a reason. In fact, that reason is usually all that drives the serial killer.  |
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by Mystic Deadman
on 2007-11-15 23:48:46
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@Diablo: Most serial killers kill someone who fits a profile of a person they knew who abused,rejected, or hurt them in a way. Good point, but more often than not serial killers create a profile that would seem totally random. Sometimes, the profile could be people that are of a certain race. Other times, it could be people that fit in the killer's fetishes. While it is a good idea, we cannot simply lump serial killers together as all creating similar profiles. It depends on the killer. Now for a person to become a serial killer that kills serial killers someone in their family or that person were somehow abused in a way by serial killers. That is an interesting statement, but it holds no water. For my reasoning, see my last post. I don't think it's a good because you would become what you hate most. I agree. Also for those who keep saying serial killers kill for no reason, there is always a reason. In fact, that reason is usually all that drives the serial killer. I don't think that a single reason is what drives serial killers. The driving force could be a combination of the profile they create, their mindset, and the feeling they get once they get the kill. And now, I take a bow. |
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[rant][sermon] As for the topic of: Are serial killers good or evil, let's just say that good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. By saying someone is evil, you are exercising an opinion. By saying someone is good, you are exercising that same opinion. In Charles Manson's eyes, he is good. The same goes for jack the Ripper, the Zodiac killer, Jim Jones, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Hannibal Lecter, the East Coast Sniper, the Bloods, the Cripts, and basically every "serial killer" known to mankind. To answer if any of these people are evil, you must first ask the question, "What is evil or good to me?" Easiest way to look at it: The Wicked Witch of the West. All Dorothy did was put on a pair of pretty shoes. Go read Wicked. It shows that Glinda's a goody-goody two shoes type and Elphaba was alienated as a child because of her skin. In theory, the Wicked Witch of the West was a victim of racism. You will never see eye to eye on something with everybody because we are all different. There is no point in hiding it, no point in ignoring it, and point in trying to change it. Also, if you're morbid and search for it, the Bible (which I don't read on a regular basis) says that all sinners will be punished for their sins in hell...It seems as though that is the mindset of a serial killer. This world's knowledge is based on opinions and differences thereof. Ask Eric and Dylan, Jim Jones, Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, or any of the known serial killers in this world the question "Why?" and I guarantee you, they will all answer the same way. "The person/people that I killed got what they deserved: punishment for what they did wrong." A sin, my friends, is a wrongdoing. When God says he will punish all the sinners, he is acting in the frame of mind as a serial killer. So, in a way, (and not to blaspheme, not that an dadaist would care whether she did or not) serial killers are the closest things to God for they punish sinners. ^_^ [/sermon][/rant]
Evil, good, beauty, truth, the norm, the strange. Life is all in how you view it. Everybody holds a mirror.
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@Judecca: The killers' reasons to kill who they kill aren't necessarily that, actually. I once read about a serial killer who kills because the people he kills falls into a category of people that, according to one of his dreams, if he kills them, his mother will be saved (or revived, I forgot). |
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@ASD: Obviously, there are exceptions to that rule as there are to everything. That is not to say that ALL serial killers think they are doing their idea of God's duty and, yes, there are the ones who do it because they are, or think they are, being controlled. The point I meant to make was that the majority of serial killers known to the world think in that manner.
Evil, good, beauty, truth, the norm, the strange. Life is all in how you view it. Everybody holds a mirror.
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