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Hmm...this problem cropped up about 6 months ago when I first learned that I can overclock a GPU. I started to overclock it so that I can play games more smoothly. However, on random occasions, the bottom half of my monitor just go black. I tried restoring my GPU's frequency back to factory settings, reintalled the driver, uninstalled PowerStrip ( the program used to overclock my card), and even reinstalled Windows, but the problem still persisted, only occured less frequently. Whenever it happens, I have to restart my PC to restore the display.I've tested my card on other PCs and the problem doesn't seem to occur. My graphics card is Nvidia GeForce FX5200 and my driver version is 91.47. Is my card really damaged due to the overclocking, or is it my monitor? Help please. Thanks heaps in advance. |
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Re: Funny display
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on 2007-05-05 20:55:40 (edited 2007-05-05 21:12:26)
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I don't suggest overclocking, there are a lot of long term disadvantages to it that could cost you a lot of money if things go wrong. Your overclocking your graphics card right? Because overclocking your graphics card can cause permanent damage. Most graphics cards are manufactured to support standard clock speeds, going beyond that could burn it out and screen distortions are one of the first signs that this is happening.    |
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Re: Funny display
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on 2007-05-06 22:12:41 |
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As you overclock one of the Computer parts, you must overclock also your PC's Processor in order to take balance to each other devices, including the GPU. As like Jonathon say, Graphics card supports standard clock speed. Try to set the jumpers if you are familiar with your motherboard. But those questions pops in my mind in reading your problem... 1. Did you use a Program while overclocking your computer? 2. Did you manual overclock it or you only depend to the software that you got? 3. Are you sure you only use PowerStrip to configure your Graphics card? |
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@ Ruy Lopez 1. I always overclock my GPU before running the game. I don't think I have any other programs running, other than PowerStrip. 2 and 3. I depend on softwares. I mostly use PowerStrip for O/C, I tried using the NVidia Ctrl Panel once, but my PC crashed, and ever since then I always use PowerStrip. As for configuring my card ( like adjusting refresh rates, AA settings, etc), I use the NVidia Ctrl Panel only . ( So PowerStrip is only for O/C) As for my CPU, it's a Pentium 4 3.0GHz with HT, and because it's a Dell machine that doesn't have AGP or PCIe x16 slots, I have to get an old 5200 PCI card. And besides, I think Dell disables O/C for CPUs... definately can't do it by BIOS... Hmm... reseting jumpers...according to my manual there is only one jumper, the one that resets CMOS... is that the one? :( |
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on 2007-05-07 05:44:12 (edited 2007-05-07 05:50:28)
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Just what I suspected, you didn't manually overclocked it. And you even didn't touch the CMOS before and after you overclock your system. I don't know if your video card is really damage badly or not due to your overclocking activity. I just conduct a research about PowerStrip, but I don't know how the errors occur in your system, except if you didn't wrong to the procedures. As what you say, you don't have a AGP Slot in your PC. I don't know if it will do about your problem or not, but just you said, PowerStrip is only for O/C and you don't know if your DELL PC disables O/C for CPU. And also, PowerStrip can overclock some, NOT ALL, of the NVidia Video Cards. Did you know if the PowerStrip is good and safe-to-use for your Graphics Card? I don't know if this will help. Just read! http://www.overclockers.com/articles1388/ It have also the preview of a PCI Graphics Card and it's compatible software for overclocking. I hope it will help you. I can't overclock a PC by talking only here or can't barely touch a system to be overclock. It is a very delicate method in order to speed up a computer, so sometimes it is not recommended for the beginners. And also overclocking lessens the life span of your Computer by a wrong Tweak. So be careful. [I just destroy 2 processors, 3 hard disk, and 2 Graphics card (2 PCI and 1 AGP) before I learn the correct overclocking methods and safety measures] |
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on 2007-05-07 11:25:35 (edited 2007-05-07 11:27:26)
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Let's get a few things straight about overclocking: -It voids your warrenty. If the part breaks you will have to buy a replacement yourself, you won't get any sympathy from the place you bought it from. -Produces much more heat. A standard computer cooling system can't handle this much heat for an extended time. If your computer starts producing more heat than the cooling system can handle, your in for a nasty experience. -Can and probably will destroy the parts of your computer. If not then it will significantly reduce the lifespan of all the parts being overclocked. -If you decide to do what Ruy said and overclock the rest of your system then your basically shortening the life of not one computer component, but all of them. If your new to overclocking then listen to me and stay away from it. If your some kind of expert at overclocking (which doesn't appear to be the case) then I don't suggest you keep this up without doing a lot of research. |
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on 2007-05-07 19:47:19 (edited 2007-05-07 20:00:55)
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to Jonathan: I know that already, what you are saying about overclocking. But for beginners, it is not recommended like what I say in my past replys. My 486DX 100Mhz PC is overclocked since 1996 by me, even though I destroy its previous processor (1) and hard disk (2) before I just successfully overclocked it. My PII MX 288Mhz PC is also overclocked since 1999, I destroy the previous processor (1), and video card (2), by overclocking. My P4 2.0 GHz is one that I overclocked successfully without destroying my processor since 2002. But a flickering power shortage destroy my Hard Disk (1). My P4 3.2 Ghz is also overclocked and I still using it for the last 2 years without experience some problem. I know it is hard to overclocked a PC. I agree with that based on my experience. But the safety precautions of overclocking is listed in my notes. I did much research about overclocking, and overclocking is 50-50 chances to destroy or speed up a computer because of the hardware durability and good hardware build. - It will not void the warranty if you overclocked your computer after the warranty expires. - Produces more heat, if you didn't balance the inside and outside chassis temperature and the inner CPU temperature. But for safety, ready your Liquid Nitrogen. It's like this... * Environment temp = 35 Degrees, inside chassis temp = 35~38 Degrees, CPU Temp = 40~42 Degrees. In that situation, YOU CAN'T OVERCLOCKED your computer with those temp. * Environment temp = 30 Degrees, inside chassis temp = 30~33 Degrees, CPU Temp = 35~37 Degrees. In that situation, YOU CAN ONLY OVERCLOCKED YOUR PC BY 1~3% and increasing the CPU Clock speed to only 1-2% but just add some cooling device in your inside chassis (but it depends to the performance of your machine during past months). - I don't comment about "reduce the lifespan of all the parts being overclocked." It is true. - And I don't recommend Overclocking and Extreme Tweaking to Beginners. And I don't recommend HIM to overclock his PC, except he is experienced to it. For Palladium: Before overclocking, you must check your computer if it is ok for overcloking, but if not, you just destroy your system. If you overclock, check first the safety precautions. Do some research and testings before applying it to your PC for long time run. Try to decrease your CPU Temp before and after the overclocking. Take all the consiquences before you overclock; if your hardware is damage, it is damage and you can't revive it unless you purchace a replacement. Ah! By the way, you didn't overclocked your Video card manually, that's why you experience the problem. You just depend to PowerStrip, pressuring your system to deal with that Trialware Diagnostic Software even you don't know what it can do hard or good to your system. Just try to RESET your settings and RESET the CMOS setup to it's factory settings if you're experienced to. Try to find a book about Overclocking if you really want to learn. But if not, just DUMP OVERCLOCKING for good. Overcloking is not a game, it's only a hard experiment to accomplish. This is not for beginners. OK! |
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on 2007-05-08 11:26:27 (edited 2007-05-08 11:27:53)
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"- It will not void the warranty if you overclocked your computer after the warranty expires." I don't really see where you were trying to go with this. It's the most obvious statement you could make. If there is no Warranty then you obviously can't void it. You can't lose something that's not even there. Your free to do what you want with your computer, but from what I know and my experience with computers overclocking only proves beneficial for short times before you need to replace parts. Now, if your made of money and have the cash to replace parts whenever they break then more power to you. Expert or not, if your overclocking you are damaging your computer, beginners will damage them more quickly while experts will damage them more slowly. Either way it's just a matter of time before something reaches it's limit. |
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on 2007-05-08 17:51:13 (edited 2007-05-08 18:07:58)
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According to some sort of Books that I'ved read --- Overclocking can be succeded in terms of hardware durability (termal condition) and person's experience and interest. As my example in my early age in overclocking, it took me more time and effort to do it. It even make me use testers and shordering rod when I messed up. I don't really expend some money in overclocking. My father gave me some parts to overclock and books to scan them. He even force me to learn about computers and teach me something even I'm only a kid, especially overclocking and programming (I don't know what he's thinking...so I just follow). Now, I can overclock computers on my own, knows the consiquences to deal while overclocking and the hassle and danger in doing it. Limitations is limitations, that's one of the truth in overclocking that you can't change. But learning it will take effect in your life just like what I experience before. If someone like to learn advance overclocking (even though BOOKS or TECHNICAL or BOTH), it is OK. But just ready for the disadvantage in using those thing in a machine. But to lessens the damage to be done, just read the Safety Precautions in Overclocking rather than overclock-to-the-hastle (if you know what I mean). Ah! I just forgot. You just said, "Overclocking voids your warranty". In my explanation in my previous post, it is logical to overclock some computer Spare-Parts rather than overclock the Brand-New-Expensive-Parts if you're only a beginner in overclocking. I only say that to counter your statement (Hehehehe!). |
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@Ruy Lopez Will you be more useful by either.. [1] explain how it's done manually [2] how it's done with a software [3] a combo of above(?) [4] well, you learnt Overclocking from *somewhere*, be nice and share resources! xp Please. =_= Hoho.. o/cing sounds like an expensive hobby.. Like golf.. but for rich nerds. [holds big red bold sign: Noob] ^^ Are there any differences between Nvidia, DirectX, ATI, and the vast amount of other graphics things? [pokes PC unhappily] I don't feel good not knowing about my own machine.... |
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on 2007-05-12 05:16:34 (edited 2007-05-12 05:23:42)
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To Ryu: As I said in my past forum: "I can't overclock a PC by talking only in a forum like this or can't barely touch a system to be overclock." I can't say it to much in here, and how can I explain Manual Overclocking if I will type all the explaination from my Advance Overclocking book one-by-one. It will took me 100+ pages in explaining only the Manual method because it deals with different chipsets, processors (mostly intel processors), bios, and some other devices includes it's safety measures, tips, and problem events that you will encounter (It is like operating a patient in a hospital, I think!). For software, it is easy. The only you can do is to find a tweaking software or a O/C software that is supported to the hardware that you're using. And follow some instructions and terms to be understand about overclocking and tweaking. That's only. And combo that what you say about Manual overclock and software device for overclocking and tweaking, well it's depends to your self, your hardware, software, and your OS. If you order me to share it to you, sorry! As what I mentioned earlier, "I can't overclock a PC by talking only in a forum like this or can't barely touch a system to be overclock" Overclocking and Tweaking is only for some poeple that have more patient enough to find and explore some hardwares to be use using limited funds. It is for all individual, only if those people who are learning this have more patient to understand what the book says rather than reading it word-by-word only. That's all. |