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Is freedom a burden to America?
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-08-23 22:56:27
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I was just thinking... So many Americans are lazy and careless... is that from too much freedom? We have so much liberty that we aren't learning to be responsible; since we don't learn responsiblity, we do worse in school, we don't learn how to cook (and not knowing how to cook combined with laziness equals fast food, and laziness combined with fast food equals obesity), and don't craft a future for ourselves. The laziness may also be the cause of all the pills and medications; You're fat, have a pill. You're thin, have a pill. You want more energy, have a pill. Some goes for depression, sleep, sickness, birth control, and anything else under the sun. If we were responsible, would we need so many pills for so many things? Wouldn't natural remedies be better for everyone? There's been reports of small amounts of medications in our drinking water and ocean water, and that has possibly lead to a number of things wrong with animals, from deformities to lesbian seagulls. The rising amount of homosexuality might be related to that (a few mights and maybes, I know...) (as well as more exposure to it and such), something that is hotly debated nowadays. So if people ate healthier (more responsibly), there'd be less pills and medications out there, correct? And that'd help a whole lot with all sorts of stuff as well... And something I'll comment on but not really go into is law-breaking. If you were responsible in your doings, there'd be little reason to kill someone right? Same with rape, theft, blah blah blah and on and on and on... Where has responsibility gone? And common sense? Compassion? A helping hand? Being social? Smiles? Love? America is heading steeper and steeper downhill...  |
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WOW! SO many untrue generalizations I just don't know where to begin. Are you an American? Have you visited America? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? -Freedom means that you have to live up to the full responsibility of your actions. Without freedom, you can blame the person who gave you an order. That excuse does not exist in America. -The existence and availability of pills does not mean that they are being abused or even used widely. You point out pills for fat people. That is true, but there are also pills and medications to cure otherwise terminal diseases. If you had AIDS, I am sure you would not be bashing pills. Granted, some medications can be harmful and are overused, but would you kill millions to keep a few from hurting themselves. -Medications in the water are a good thing. Calcium and Fluoride help with dental hygiene and bone growth. Other vitamins and minerals placed in the tap water system are beneficial, not harmful like you claim. -Lesbian Seagulls? I am not even going to ask what made you think that chemicals in the water was causing that, especially since homosexuality is a well documented part of the animal kingdom. Members of almost every species engage in homosexual acts independent of any human influence. -The supposed increase in gay population that you point out is first not true and secondly highly prejudicial. Humans dating back even beyond the Greeks open practiced homosexual acts. The idea of preferring one gender or the other was only invented in recent decades, so it is only that the idea of homosexuality is new, not the practice -People are healthier because of pills, not in spite of them (See above). -Responsibility for your actions has little to do with the committing of crimes. People are accountable now. The fact is that they either act in the heat of the moment or believe they can escape the consequences. It is not that people are simply allowed to commit murder with recourse, as you seem to believe. -As for the rest of your points, you provide no actual arguments so I will simply say that you are terribly mistaken and your perspective of America is horribly skewed and you need to live in a country and actuary MEET its peoples to judge it, not just watch news accounts and listen to politicians or fanatics. The terrible things that some people perceive about America are true, but only of a very few select individuals. The vast majority of Americans are good, honest, king people who certainly don't deserve this kind of slander.  The greatest joy is the shameful joy |
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on 2006-08-23 23:20:46 (edited 2006-08-23 23:24:29)
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yea....people need to learn how to be responsible for your actions.....and RESPECT others.....Stuff like True love....without cheating....and stuff....is slowly dying.....more people cheat....and thus hurt others.....bah (i was talkin bout everyone....not just america) EDIT: pills dont make you healthier......you might feel better....but things like your liver suffers....cause to your liver anything like pills is abnormal and it tries to get rid of it....thus its not good for it...i DO admit however that sometimes you HAVE to take medicine to survive (i try not to take many pills....i try to recover my self most of the time) ps:Pyrric Victory : oh and sachiel lives in America i believe 
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Utah to be percise iswhere Sachiel lives. Near the center of the country. I agree with Sachiel that american people have serious laziness and moral issues, but I strongly disagree it is from too much freedom. People are free to act good, loving, and hardworking; they just don't. I think they are badly influenced by the society around them, todays pop culture is not something I want to brag about to future generations. With what people consider cool these days and in style is really leading people down the moral drain. Even though what they think is cool is actually incredible lame and rediculous. From stupid reality shows to promiscuous idols like Paris Hilton. (who also did a reality show.) America's culture is plummeting down the toilet. With a divorce rate of over 50%, America needs a good spanking. These immature misbehaving children need some scolding.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-08-23 23:58:57 (edited 2006-08-24 00:04:08)
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We have too much freedom if we can abuse the system. This is not something you have the right to do. If you want to be a fat pig, don't expect me to pay for it either, take responsiblity for your own actions! I fully see the reasoning behind associating our freedom with the decline of our nation! It's not freedom in general's fault, it's the ABUSE of our freedom, mainly abuse of the government, which is just totally allowed! It disgusts me, and would disgust the forefathers to I bet! No one votes, we don't put school first, and we seem to have no standard in values. I'm not one of these bash-America types, I'm actually very, very conservative from an economic and often political stadnpoint, believe it or not (though I'd rather support Libertarians if we could get a shot!), but I 100% agree that our country is in decline! And in a VERY destructive manner. The problem is no one cares about VALUING their freedom anymore! They don't try to expand their minds and just slip further and further down a path to degeneracy. Our country is in great danger. I think the only thing that will save us is a HUGE catastrophe that makes everyone relaize the importance of education, health, and above all being involved in the political process! This sounds cruel, but the biggest problem is all the leaching in society, a consequence of giving people the freedom to abuse the system. This includes welfare, disabilty, etc. There are people who need it, but I've seen lots of people take advantage of it! The amount of money it takes to care of one person takes away from several taxpayers! The WORST example I saw, and I hope this is rare, is someone getting ALL their rent and so forth paid because she could'nt READ. If people don't have to work, they won't, and other people can and will take advatage of the process. I guess the what I'm trying to say is there is too much abuse of the system, and the freedom to abuse it is the only problem I can see solvable at this point, that is where we need to start. You have the freedom to do many constuctive things, but I don't think you have the freedom to abuse my tax dollars :p |
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on 2006-09-01 17:09:13 (edited 2006-09-01 17:09:51)
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Yeah Sach is right. Pyrric Victory is living in the world of lies. So his judgment is clouded. Pyrric is listening to the public media that is controlling him. This "freedom" most people call it, is making theft out of today's youth. You can take this form me; I am America’s youth. The youth think that the freedom gives them the right to do anything that they feel like. This is why soooo many teens are doing drugs and having babies. I know soo many people who cheat at everything in life. These people also steal things. I wish America’s youth would learn how to behave. Also those crappy pills are killing use. Not just physically, but mentally. We take the pills to lose weight. But we can work out and eat right to lose weight the healthy slower way. But no body wants to work hard today. Everyone (mostly the newer Generations) will do anything to gain a quick buck. They will destroy people’s lives to make more money. Many American companies bosses are passing their businesses to their sons. These sons have no morals at all. What they do is run the company down to the ground to gain more money faster. He will lay off all the older experience people; replace them with lower paying college grads. He keeps taking a private stash of cash. The company dies out, thousands of people lose their jobs, and he gets a huge profit along with other CEOs. America is getting soft is too many ways. I don’t think we are going to last too long. -------- "There's been reports of small amounts of medications in our drinking water and ocean water, and that has possibly lead to a number of things wrong with animals, from deformities to lesbian seagulls. The rising amount of homosexuality might be related to that." lol I did hear something like this one time. ----- "Medications in the water are a good thing. Calcium and Fluoride help with dental hygiene and bone growth. Other vitamins and minerals placed in the tap water system are beneficial, not harmful like you claim." Ummm Vic Fluoride is toxic in high amounts. You can be killed if you have too much. The Fluoride in your toothpaste is enough for the whole day. O.o do you know anything about Fluoride?? ----- Dang I typed too much.  DON'T SLAP THE MONKEY!! |
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on 2006-09-02 18:57:55 |
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On the subject of pills, I once had a fever of 105. That is dangerous to the human body, your organs can literally fry. Guess what was the only thing that could break my fever, asprin, in the pill form. I do not recommend giving asprin to children with chickenpox as I was. That or the hospital and I have a fear of needles X.x The doctors I been to rarely gave me a pill.I'm lazy true enough. Butr I'm in marching band you can not be too lazy for that. I'll trust medication if it's tried and proven to work. There's some things that herbs and other natural remidies wouldn't work. Bats have a well known case of homosexuality, as Pyrric said. This is not new to morden times. It's always been around, just known more so nowadays. Rape is the same case, women was blamed for the rape. Too much floride is dangerous, but not everyone have toothpaste. And it's diluted. Everyone (mostly the newer Generations) will do anything to gain a quick buck I won't, hell, give me a book I'm exetremely happy. (Add along Mozart's Requiem, I might love you XD) You most have never heard of the Monopolies in the 1800's and the anti trust laws. I maybe living in a world of lies. I just see some people as a bit too thick that they're willing to be mislead. I rarely watch TV I'll look at different sources for to not be that biased. Maybe Kuroi your judgement is clouded, not Pyrric's. You are generalizing too much without looking up sources. Hopefully I have popped you little bubble of how the old days was better. Pathetic I see when people do something like this. *sighs* Ayu does not proofread her posts and is otfen too lazy to correct it. Her English is also weird, she apologize for it. Also if she offended someone, she also say she can be much more harsher. This is her being mild O.O;  |
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pills or medications are needed in our lives, to cure diseases and to treat it. however people nowadays, like sach has said, use pills widely eventhough you dont HAVE to take drugs to cure the diseases. in situations where the disease can be treated without the use of pills or drugs, like, obesity and underweight condition, its better to control it naturally. so, for most people, instead of practicing healthy life style, like working out and controlling your diet for obese people and eating balance diet and building up muscles for underweight people, they are too lazy and they'd just take pills for the effects. same goes to depression and other conditions. i may not live in America, but laziness and the world corruption has been spreading throughout the world. people are being less responsible and their morals are going down. even in the asian world we can see corruption and declining of moral. i agree with jomunga that the environment plays a role in influencing people. all they need is a good self-control and determination to ensure that they are not influenced by the bad stuff.  |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-09-02 21:07:51
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Using medications sparingly and wisely is something I don't think is bad at all. It's using pills and medications to get a quick fix that requires no work on your part... @Pyrric: Looks like you might be living in a good area then... seems like I'm always hearing people bashing religions, rape on the news, people making laws on top of laws so thickly that people can get away with doing wrong by manipulating words... Makes you wonder when the idea of laws stopped and the letters of laws came in XD @Tatsuki: It's entirely possible that Pyrric lives in a good area with low crime, and therefore sees the good Americans can do. Gah, g2g, I'll type more later XD *waves* |
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on 2006-09-02 22:15:18 |
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I personally don't trust anything that's in a pill form that garuntees weight lost. Looks like you're asking for diarrhea. |
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| I think the points of sachiel and pyrric victory are both valid. You can see how it works both ways. It's all really how you would like to see it. The reality is that this nation is a hodgepodge of almost every piece of the world. You think of some heritage or culture and we got it somewhere. Just because the majority of people act a certain way doesn't mean everyone acts that way. The funny thing about popular things is that they tend to change on a constant basis. I have my freedom and use it the way I wanna use it. Can't bash anybody else for doin' the same thing. Yeah freedom could lead to the downfall of this country but it has kinda been what's made this country great at the same time. I'd rather live with it then live without it. You want change, then get enough people to beleive it is neccessary. |
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Yes, American values are on a decline, but I don't see how freedom is the cause of it. You can't stop people from being lazy. Even if the government made it a requirement that people learn how to cook, some people would still continue to eat fast food because they don't want to take the time. Even if weight-loss pills stopped being made, some people would still try to find an easier method than exercise. You can't change the way some people think. I agree that taking pills for every problem is not a good solution. Medication is necessary for severe diseases, but not for every headache or runny nose. It isn't healthy to supress what your body is trying to tell you. People should learn to tolerate some pain. As for the chemicals in the water, how safe it is depends on the amount present. I don't really see what's wrong with rising homosexuality though. As for taking drugs or committing crimes, it's not as if people are free to do those things. It's illegal and there are penalties to pay if caught. The government can't be responsible for every individual. The only way to prevent all people from doing wrong is to monitor their every action, which would take away all freedom. America is going downhill because of the way people choose to think and act, not because of the freedom they recieve.
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by Feo Muchacho
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Freedom is not a burden and should not be treated as such under any circumstance. Many people in other countries would die to have what we as americans have achieved. Freedom is a privelage not a given right and should be treated that way. As for american moral values I do agree its on the decline. Since when has cussing on television been censored while horrific violence is not. There are aspects of american society that are unquestionably immoral however freedom should never be grouped with these aspects. Those who take freedom for granted should think twice and see how people without it are doing, not to good actually.  Japanese girls love Darth Vader...... |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-09-03 20:33:33
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Precisely; It's not the freedom itself that's the burden, it's the abuse of it. Now, if we were to remove freedom for a decade, might people stop and think for a second? Would they start wondering if maybe they had been abusing it instead of cherishing it? |
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Woah, when i read the first post i thought you were talking about Indonesia... Seriously, when you're talking about the lack of responsibility and laziness, Indonesia first comes to my mind. Indonesians are inspiring to be just like people from America or other countries whom we think are mostly better than us. Now you're saying that people from america are like that... Then how low can Indonesia possibly go?? XD It's kinda sad for me to post this you know... Well i don't really know about Americans, so i don't have anything to say about them... I post here just to let you know that you're not that bad yet, there are still worse people out there. @Sach Yeah maybe, people realize something when they lost it after all... |
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on 2006-09-05 17:22:42 (edited 2006-09-05 17:26:17)
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Well up to the age of 12, I couldn't swallow a phill. I took liquid meds, and shots. Well now I am never sick. I hang around sick peole around my school all the time. I usely have to take a day off of school cause of non health issuses. Their might be be something in this little tebit. But I think I am just crazy. ---- Add on-- Americans are lazy. But Immagrated Americans (From china German) Are less lazy, or even hard working. Most of America is built with forein influence. Also America owes alot of money. DON'T SLAP THE MONKEY!! |
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Is it just me or does everyone generalize that Americans are lazy? I really dislike it when people do this. Immigrants can be just as lazy as you say US born Americans are. It's all individualized for the person. There are even lazy people in other corners of this planet. Wow, go figure, other people can be lazy? F**k that's one hell of a concept! At this point, I literally have to go destroy some innocent furnishing just so that I won't say anything I'll regret later. If you haven't figured it out yet, every country that has gained global recognition is tied up with foreign influences. We owe so much money because of everything that is expected out of us. Somebody finds terrorists or is attacked by terrosists; who is expected to come to their aid? People want their violent and unjust tyrant ousted from rule; who's army ends up going? Some natural disaster annihilates a 3rd world island; who's the humanitarians? Are we always correct in our judgement and completely honest in our causes? Hell no, but is your country? Aren't we all humans and thusly aren't we all capable or the same justices and injusitices? If we are so infinitely lazy then why the hell have we done so good for ourselves? Maybe it's because our freedom gives us the right as human beings to rise up to the challenges of this life and make a name for ourselves AND on the flip side, slide down into the depths of anonimity and live this life out as a drone. Don't you EVER make another generalization about my country without elaborating on it or providing evidence. Atleast then I can view it as an opinion and not an insult to the very thing I am proud to be. Rant over. *Stops self from cursing* |