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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-02-16 10:33:00
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This is sickening. Marriage is a total fraud nowadays. (rant) It's supposed to be "to cherish and to hold", that one is never there. And "Till death do us part" should be replaced with "We may part at any time, especially when it's because we are killing each other. Then our kids will starve and go through depression from having divorced and unhappy parents." Grrr... People need to realize that it's not just two people getting affected when you fight; it's everyone in your whole family and anyone that helps your family! Those celebrities that have a marriage of the week should be shot, the people that fight all the time (like Nightmare's, Schala's, or some other's parents that my ranting brain can't remember) should be... well, HAPPY! Happiness isn't that hard to come by, and compromise on stuff. If you try to make everything your way, then you'll end up with nothing. You can't walk two ways and get somewhere, and you can't chase two rabbits and get them both. Pick one way, stay that way, and LIVE HAPPILY!! (/rant)  |
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Easier said than done. I actually don't know how my mom took 20 years if marriage with him, they seemed happy. She said last night that she wasn't going to take 20 more. I don't blame her, my dad comes home and goes to sleep, he actually got a second job so we could pay for the Christmas Bills and the 800 dollar vacuum he bought (he can't control money spending) but now that he has nothing to do, he well, does nothing. What bothers me is that they won't keep it to themselves, my mom bitches about him, and my dad bitches to her and it is just a visious cycle. I just want to go to Japan to see someone who I miss dearly, and also who I may never see for another 4 years.Er...Does anyone know the age of travelling alone? I can earn the money fine, that isn't an issue, but my mom said that I can't go till I am of age. It pisses me off becasue she knows jsut how much I want to go, but she won't. She has no idea I jsut want to see Tatsuya. Boy my life is going to the shitter right now. Oh well, i'll find a way to dig myself out. Again, thanks for listening, er well, listening to my ranting more-like ^_^ I hope I can turn around and laugh at this.
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-02-16 13:56:14 (edited 2006-02-16 14:04:43)
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Controlling how you spend your money is quite easy. I've had multiple oppurtunites to buy Panda Express (best food on earth) or Little Caesar's (other best food on earth), but since I have no job I'm waiting it out. I might go get some panda today, though, I think three weeks is a long enough break... plus I'm getting $4 a week from my brother for doing his chores...so... I might... While I'm out I'm gonna check out Albertson's and see if I can apply for a job there ^_^ Just tell your dad to control his spending a little more (if he won't blow up at you and kill ya ^_~)... it'll really help in the long run ^_^ |
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by night_link
on 2006-02-16 13:58:00
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| Schala check your email please. |
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I will. No, he will, he'll tell me to f*** off and to worry about myself and go and write my book elsewhere and that learning Japanese is a waste of time. I know it sounds bad, but it is true. He isn't really a jack-ass all the time, but he commutes to Calgary everyday and it is 3 hours away from where we live and he gets home very grumpy. He also doesn't take the weather with him. But he has never been able to save money and always spends every dime he makes. Without my mom we wouldn't be in the house we are in, nor own the items we do. I know it sounds as if I am dumping solutions left and right, but the best thing for him is to jsut say shit. He'll get more mad, and my mom is on the verge of a nervous breakdown, or so she told me and that if I piss him off it'll send her over the edge. I almost hope they do get divorced or at least break up for a bit, I don't think it is very healthy for my mom.
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by night_link
on 2006-02-16 15:34:32
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Schala, I've had a situation much like your when I was little. I've also experienced the consequences, none of which was a good memory. In those situations, I've done my best to hold back my anger and energy for other people around's sake. |
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Ya I don't usually tell people, this is a first thing telling you guys. By the way I sent you a reply! ^_^ When I am really angry I jsut tell myself that it isn't gonna help so I might as well keep it on the down low untill I need it. I mean if I am in a fight that is when I feed myself the anger. Either that, sadness and anything else depression I channel out of my body spiritually. It works, but, anyway, thanks for the advice.
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by night_link
on 2006-02-16 15:42:26
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I already replied hahaha. You have to trust the people if you wanted to tell. As a kid... yeah you get the point about me. |
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I just find that if I don't trust people then I won't have problems with secrets. There is one person I trust most who is my closest friend. I told her about tatsuya right? I haven't told my parents because they'd freak and ban me from the computer and talking to him forever. Thanks for the reply I will check it right now.
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by night_link
on 2006-02-16 16:00:57 (edited 2006-02-16 16:04:13)
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I hate keeping secrets from parents. But, building that experience yourself that you know what kind of people you can talk with is a necessity in life. That still doesn't mean we should hide things from parents. Or at least most of the time. I guess it depends on how sure you are on doing the right thing. I will admit though, there were times I wish I had listened to my parents about what they thought about this particular person before I associated with them. Today was Lynn's b-day. I'm pissed because I had classes to worry about and so I never got to finish the pic I was drawing for her. But still me and her and friends still took some time off today to enjoy ourselves as friends. I have a Japanese quiz to worry about but I'm not going to stress too much about it. Today was fine so far. I'm still going to finish the drawing. |
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I am somewhat familiar with this situation. I used to have the sane problem. I just got over it by telling myself that I could find it later... But this doesn't sound like a guy who listens to reason. My thought on that is he needs professional help and if he won't get it, there's not much that can be done. Occuping him with something else that interests him might help. As for them crabing about each other to you... I get that a lot of that from my sister after her husband ditched her and divorced her later. He took all his stuff and some of her stuff and I have never heard the end of it. If I get ticked enough, I'll tell her to shutup, but since its your parents, I'd just try to shut them out. That's the best advice I can come up with. And for the rest of you, I know I don't show it much, but I am a nice person. I never want anyone to think that I'm a grump. People tell me I can come accros like that sometimes on the internet.  |
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But people can't tell emotion over the net...
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Schala ...its ok, my parents are the same way. i know that sound corny, but its the sad truth...they fight alot and it really feels litke the love in this house is supressed. i agree with sachiel, marrage seems to be a sham...i am interested to hear what rin says about this. marrage is supposed to be a sacred bond between an man and a woman (dont give me any gay rights crap) that love each other so profoundly, that they feel that their souls shoud be joined into one family. i think that it is partly because of the lack of controle that the society has on sex. lets face it, america is sex crazy. today, teens having sex are common place...do you know what would happen in the middle ages if a teenage unmarried couple was found having sex? they were usually put to death and the family was dishonered. my parents problem, (and it sounds like yours as well) is that they have forgotten how much they loved each other. their love needs to be rekindled. are you an only child? or the firstborn? my parents lives changed when they had me...but they focused so much on me, that they forgot about loving each other! now on my side, this makes me feel like it is all my fault and they dont seem to love ANYONE anymore because they are fighting....the only way i see them changing is when these 2 trhings are met. #1. my grandfather has to pass away. i know that sounds morbid and sick..but he stresses mom out so much, that she yells and screems all day...and she has to see him every day because her brother abandoned her to take care of grandfather alone. i feel really bad for her abotu it... #2. i have to leave...either i die, or i leave the house for good. the former is alwayse an option, but id rather not...the latter,however, is not going to happen anytime soon. in all likllyhood, i am going to be staying at home during collage (money reasons) and the only time i will move out is probibly 2 years into collage. which is 4 years away. quite possibly, the only way my parents will be truly hapooy again will be after i am married and gone. (if i by chance meet a girl that i love...im still kinda doubtful, but i do hold some hope now that i talked to a couple seniors at school about it) well thats my extreemly long advice...goodnight!  |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2006-02-16 18:55:30
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You know what Nightmare, if you're ever coming by West Jordan in Utah, stop by here and I'll let you stay in my room (unless my brother's still here, in which case 3 people in one room might be difficult) ^_^ ...You know, jsut tell them what you said here. Tell them to love each other and love you less. You've got what you need, now they should get what they need. *just realizes I'm being a dictator and saying "just do this and that" ^_^;* |
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Good advice. Thanks. My Dad was actually nice today and bought my mom some flowers because he felt bad that he was such a dick-weed. I know it isn't my fault, but it still feels like it is weighing on me. I can't really go anywhere because it is -40C degress here! I like to go walking when I am pissed but I am confined to my room all day. At least tomorrow I can go somewhere, even if it is jsut to get my eyes checked. I wam interested into what Lady Rin has to say. She seems really knowledgable on love ^_^
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Schala, actually I'd like to disagree. You can determine emotion over the internet. It has to do with voice in writing something I've written exstensivly on in many threads. I'm preed for time otherwise I'd linbk you to some of the best examples of voice in writting. I'll just make it easy and say look at any of Rin's or Ranger's posts about the events in the last few months, and you'll find enough emotion filled responses that you can't help but notice. I unfortunatly have no expiriance in the parent-arguing feild. So I can render no assitance in this situation. I'll not be back untill sunday, I have a camping trip. A nice cold camping trip, teens cold, 15 inches of snow, and in tents not rated for winter camping, fun. There is no sacasim there either, I love winter camping, much rater be cold than warm. I guess it comes with the climate. That I can't resist a boy scout event, especially when it's going to be nice and big. This weekend it's the valley forge ecampment, and I belive we'll be cabin camping in two weeks. So I'll see all you guys on sunday. |
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I give you credit there, I guess there can be emotion, but it can be sometimes supressed. Like I thought you were being sarcastic and until you said so I thought that way. With the fight with Oblivion I could tell emotion, but sometimes I have put a ^_^ or a emoticon when I am talking on MSN messanger so people know I mean well.
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by overlordsero
on 2006-02-16 19:12:14
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I dont think I can help on this. I dont know what to say. I have not really experienced it at all. However my dad goes in and out of our lifes which isnt good for my brother. all I can think of right now...sorry ^_^; 
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by night_link
on 2006-02-16 19:15:39
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| Sero, just being here and listening (check that: reading) and aknowledging that you understand the problem is already helping a bit. |
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13 is right ^_^ Thanks I think things will turn out alright, or at least I hope for my mom. Whatever comes I will take it head on.
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