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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-10 11:24:38
lol, another week until another chapter... >_<;;

365 was the BOMB! The Vizards are the 5H17.
Some of the Captains almost forgot some of them, too. :O

I want to see the part where Lisa goes down to see her old Captain in anime form.
That was kind of special. I'm sure Nanao would've loved to see her, too.

That Hisagi/Tensei meeting is what else can I say, a shocker, literally?
I liked it when Gin said it was pretty nostalgic. And did you see Yamamoto's face when they appeared? Never see his eyes more wide.

The coolest part was the dialog below:

Yamamoto: ...Hirako Shinji. Am I right in thinking you're on our side now?
Shinji: Isn't it obvious? Of course we aren't.
Yamamoto: ...
Shinji: We're not on your side. And we're against Aizen. And... we're on Ichigo's side.

And wow they all revealed their masks and are about to kick 455! I can't wait.
I hope the filler arc in the anime doesn't take forever,
but I hope the next episode, which is a Beach swimsuit episode,
I'm thinking they're going to show that sand castle battle that was actually in the manga if anyone remembers it.

That was pretty funny, plus it's a Bleach Swimsuit episode, so it should be good regardless anyways. ^_~`

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-20 01:37:50
To DA and our conversatiogn from the anime thread ~


What I meant by all the surprises was Ichigo and his
'Hollow' form, Ulq going out the way he did, Yammy
getting all 'Zero-Espada' and going Jolly Green Giant
on us, and then the stuff like Wonderweiss and that
beasty of his appearing and all.

Alot of these things felt like Kubo just pulled them
outta his backside, especially the Yammy thing, which
I thought was one of the most random things ever, in any
manga or anime or even other show from America and all.

It's basically what I meant by the whole " HAHAHA " thing.



ANYWAY, I wish I had known about this thread before. I've needed
it for so long -- And the Vizards showing up? That was pure awesome.

Kubo did what I thought would happen, by having things look super grim
for the SHinigami -- and then Vizard showing up. I thought it
was nice how they said they weren't with the SHinigami; but
were against Aizen and WITH Ichigo. That was a great Line by Shinji.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-20 02:44:38
lol, this is fun. ;P

Anyways, about that Ichigo/Ulquiorra fight, I didn't like how it ended.
I said this before, probably in this thread somewhere most likely a page or so back,
but I hate how his inner Hollow really saves him.
Literally it was like this, Ulquiorra beats him, Ichigo literally dies,
but because he has this mystical, special Hollow inside,
not only does it use Ichigo's corpse to beat Ulquiorra, but it revives Ichigo after it's all over.
I'm not saying it was a total beat down on him though, Ulquiorra had a chance to win,
but what was up about him just fading away??? THAT was really lame.

And wow, you see Ishida's arm? Sugoi-ne~

Is Yammy that huge thing that came with (finally, his name) Wonderweiss?
Or is he still back in Hueco Mundo about to beat up on Rukia and Renji?
I thought I missed something, but I though Yammy was still in Hueco Mundo (from what I remember correctly).
That huge thing is definitely not known at all, and I'unno who's going to take care of it.
The only person that has their hands free is Yamamoto,
then again Gin and Tousen are waiting by Aizen's side, as well as Wonderweiss just being there.
Kyouraku can't find him with Stark being there as well, too impossible.

When Ichigo first met Yammy, didn't Ichigo land a clean slice on him or something?
I remember he later got owned by Ulquiorra though, since Yoruichi and Urahara I think showed up.

OH! And remember we were talking about how Bleach can go even longer.
I remember Kubo, I believe, saying the content in the third movie will be involved in the manga, or added in.
So it's possible Aizen will somehow escape and regroup later. I don't think Shinji will defeat him anyways.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-20 02:54:24
The whole thing with Ichigo and Ulq was -ok-.

I thought it was cheap he got straight -owned- after Ulq
pulled out not only his release but a Second Release --
but Ichigo dies and comes back as Hollow to win?
While the Hollow form looked SOOO cool, I thought it was
very cheap.

As far as the ending, and Ulq fading away, that was abit
over-dramtic. Also, I love how Ichigo and Orihime are all
" ;_; Ulq ... " While Ishida is MISSING AN ARM. I MEAN
REALLY. WHAT AWESOME FRIENDS, AMIRITE?

As for your question, no, that big thing is not Yammy.

That giant was seen in the anime/manga when Aizen and company
left Soul Society in those Pillars of light and that giant
Eye opened in the sky. That Eye was/is that massive creature
with Wonderweiss.


And Yeah, Yammy got owned alot, but APPARENTLY his true power
was never unleashed. I still think his new form is cheaper
then Ichigo's Full-Hollow form, however.


And The Captains need to start unleashing some Bankai, or it
may be game over. I doubt Shinji will win -- but he can make
it interesting. Maybe even a Bankai-Vizard form like Ichigo?

And if things do get grim for Aizen, he will flee ~

But where can he flee? Ichigo and company are in Hueco Mundo,
with the Captains and all in the Human World. They can only goto
Soul Society or some new unknown world, so it could be interesting.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2009-07-20 05:35:15
I... know only...

Ishida's the best!!!
> <

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-20 15:32:33
I was surprised to see he was the 0 Espada (1 in a scale of 10). Unfair for Stark?
Maybe for Kyouraku, since he wanted to fight the strongest of 'em all (even though he can't beat Stark yet).
Maybe it was a simple trick to use "10" to fool people like Ichigo into thinking he's the weakest?

I'm surprised only Ulquiorra and Soifon have not only used their Bankais, but moves they never really shown before.
Ukitake was about to use it, until Wonderweiss came in and took him out.
Kyouraku is way too easy going, but that goes with his philosophy on fighting I suppose,
but if an Espada releases, you gotta go Bankai, especially if he's Stark.

Even with Bankai though, they're just not strong enough it seems.

At the end of the latest chapter, Shinji took away his mask and went on to attack Aizen.
I definitely want to see the next chapter this week, cause that'll turn into something awesome.

I think Aizen can easily go into Soul Society, since he planned to go there already after they take care of everyone.
There's also no real threats there as well, but we'll see how things go.
I wouldn't call Aizen to plan b yet, and knowing him, he has some more tricks up his sleeve.

And yes, can't shoot arrows with online one arm now. ;P
And I wonder if Urahara or Yoruichi are going to make an appearance? Especially Kisuke (maybe not).

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-20 23:28:38
I wouldn't be surprised if Aizen maybe goes to Soul
Society, and finds himself face to face with Kisuke
and company. They may be the ones meant to protect it?

Perhaps even without Yamamoto knowing ~


Also, I think that Ichigo and company could get to
soul society. I know that they can't get to the human
world, but maybe they can enter soul society -- or
maybe even Kisuke is trying to get them out someway.


Shinji could straight own some people, but seeing him
jump into a fight against Aizen seems like alot so
suddenly when we haven't really seen his fighting
ability with his mask. Who knows, though -- He could
be on Aizen's level. We really don't know at this point.


Also, Yammy could have hid his true power in order to
be a trump card for Aizen to use if things went bad.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-20 23:47:03
Hmmm, Urahara (who's bannished from SC) waiting there? A possibility, who knows.
As of now, I can't really say anything yet. Maybe Aizen will just own everybody? XD
One thing though, SC is definitely the easiest, safest place to go to.
The only "protection" I know that's there so far, are members of the other squads.

There's maybe other, higher security... like that one Captain who was promoted even? Who knows... I still want to find out about that person...

I remember at some point, one character mentioned they're trapped in Hueco Mundo.
After those portals closed, those (as we know so far) were the only ways out.
I'm not sure if Urahara's ever been to Hueco Mundo, I'm not sure if he's doing anything right now.
His presence so far in this whole battle, has been tardy. He hasn't shown up yet.
The only thing we know he did, was partially help set up the fake Karakura Town, the battle field.

During that Pendulum Arc, they didn't show Shinji in action at all.
He's the leader of the Vizards, which should logically make him the strongest,
and of course he's the one who went after Aizen without fear.
I'm just waiting for the next chapter, and it better be a good one.

It's funny how Yammy was sort of worried about Ulquiorra during the Ichigo fight.
I guess since they were partners, they had some special bond, but yeah once we knew that broke, he snapped.

Ugh, I want to see all of this in the anime, but who knows when we'll see the next non-filler episode now. :/

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-20 23:56:58
That Special Squad in the Royal Guard, AKA Zero Division.
They guard the King of SS personally, and are like ALL
Captain Level -- I think, anyway. We don't know much about it.

And I'm Urahara is doing SOMETHING -- Now's not the time
to be checking stock or sipping that green tea. Time for
action, and most likely he's trying to get the other
Captains and Ichigo and everyone from HM freed.

It's something probably only he can do, after all.


And as far as seeing it in the anime? Mark your calender
down for 2010 -- It seems that's when the anime kicks it
back to the actual story. Then, or LATE-LATE-LATE 2009.

According to that interview with Tite, anyway. People have
been translating it differently, but most are saying
the rest of the year is Filler.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-21 16:58:00
I need to know her name, and I think it was confirmed it was a female, right?
She seemed to have a good connection with some of the current vizards.
I'd be so static if she made some special appearance!! :O

And yeah, those higher level security are really brutal.
They're like, the Supreme Kai (RG) guarding the Grand Kai (King) in DBZ. XD

Their rank is so high is what I mean, lol.

What can't Urahara do, seriously? He's proven he can literally do, create, anything.
His strength may not be like the old days when he was Captain, but he can do so many other things.
Who knows if he's even in the human world right now, we haven't seen him for a while actually.
During these moments, when he does make an appearance, it's always a big surprise.

We'll see how things go. The real filler arc hasn't even shown yet, but it better be good.
If anything like the useless Naruto ones, wow, fans are going to be devastated.
I doubt Bleach will have "boring" fillers though, except it better be nothing like the Lurichiyo ones. D:<

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-21 17:05:34
She was indeed female, and the former 12th Squad Captain.
Because of this, she was obviouslly close to Hiyori --
and was like a mother to her. Hard to lose that ~

And Urahara is the man that can do it all; Fight, Train,
build, create, research, gather resources, etc. I also
wouldn't be surprised if he found someway to unleash
his former power from when he was a Captain.


And like I said uh, somewhere on here, I think the
Zanpkuto Spirits thing will be really cool. I can't
wait to learn about Zangetsu's past and his origin, as
well as the origin of alot of other spirits -- including
to actually get to SEE other spirits besides Zangetsu,
Zabimaru, and Hyorinmaru; Since they are the only
spirits to be see so far in their actual form.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-21 17:23:58
Oh yeah, that's right, I remember now.
I hope we actually see her, or even in the manga soon.
And yeah, after loosing a mother figure, you get a brother figure, lol.

I wonder if those dolls (from the Bounto Arc) will help? I doubt it though, they're not strong at all.
lol, I forget their names but they were pretty awesome, especially the one that loved Ichigo? =^_^=

Hmm, now that I brought it up, I want to see the episode where she hugs Ichigo when he comes home or something.
I wonder what episode it was, it was before Grimmjow makes his appearance, so before 120.
I'll look on Youtube since I don't want to dL them randomly. Do you know by any chance?

I'm curious to see Senbonzakura. Might be a girl simply because of the delicate elegance that is, Byakuya's Zanpakuto. ;P

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-22 10:05:08
I'm not sure what episode that she ( Rinrin ) did that,
and I can't check since I'm currently on Dial-up u.u; ..

And Yeah, they are pretty weak -- Best used in a supporting
role in combat. They tend to show up in the fillers, though.

Seeing Sebonzakura should be pretty cool; but even at the
chance of seeing all these new SPirits, I still seem
most interested in seeing Zangetsu's origin o-o;.




-- And something I wasn't around for when it happened,
but does anyone else think Soifon's Bankai was just...

...

Horrible.

That's another thing I feel Kubo just went " HAHAHAHA LOL "
over when he knew we were reading it, and just randomly
came up with that whole Bankai. It seemed so random >_>;


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-22 22:58:37
lol, ewww gross.
I checked youtube last night, it was 108 (after Ichigo beats Kariya).
Though I remember it different, or that it happened elsewhere.
I love these moments in anime thoguh, plus her character is cute and her seiyu's voice is really cute, too.

They live with Urahara, and I guess they protect Izuru and that kid with the bat.
Well, maybe that but I'm sure they still have a bond with Ishida, Chad, and Ichigo for sure.
Everytime they come over to talk and have tea, they're there so yeah, I'unno, lol.
They seem to have pretty simple lives now after they joined the good side with Urahara.

You want to see Zangetsu the most? Maybe we might see some spirits that haven't been revealed yet, like Yachiru's.

And what about Soifon's Bankai? Not a fan of it or you never knew she had one?
To be honest, I thought she had another move with her Shikai (other than the one she learned from Yoruichi).

And honestly, she won't be able to beat Barragon. She's literally looking at Death in his face.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-22 23:10:29
Just not a fan of Soifon's Bankai -- All it was, was a simple
one-hit rocket that goes flying and causes a big explosion.

No special effects.

Doesn't match with the character at all.

Nothing.

I almost feel Kubo just HAD to screw over Soifon and give her
an over-sized ugly Bankai, just because she was so awesome.
Not only that, but nearly all Bankai's match their user in
some way -- Soifon's is the EXACT opposite of her. Also, It
almost feels Soifon lost her arm and then Kubo was like " Oh
no, I forgot she needed to release her Bankai! D: " and gave
her a one-armed Bankai. It was just horrible, is horrible, bleh.



And yeah, the mod-souls do have a bond with Ichigo and company,
obvious by the time they spent/spend together. Sadly, they are
anime-only characters -- because of that they won't end up in the
manga where they could be some good support characters. What a shame ~


And as far as seeing Zangetsu, I just want to learn about him.
As far as we know, he's the only Human-Looking Zanpkuto Spirit,
so it'd be interesting to see if his past involved him being like
a SHinigami or something that was somehow turned into a spirit.

It'd also be nice to learn how the Spirits actually come to be,
and where they come from. I wonder if the spirits were all once
Shinigami that took a special form when they died and continued
to live on as Spirits of Zanpkuto -- That's always been a thought of mine.

And I do want to see all the spirits we can -- The more we see,
the more we learn and thus the more we understand about the way
the whole system works and how Spirits become what they are.

It should be really great.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-23 00:31:42
I think her Bankai might have another move (or even possible, another form).
She's a part of the Special Ops, I doubt that'd be "it" with her Bankai.
You're right about it not matching her character, it doesn't.
Ninja Stealth Warriors don't use rockets, but yeah I think there's more to it.

And about the one-arm thing, it's like these people are used to having their arm cut off the pain's nothing more than a paper cut.
Ishida... Soifon... like, seriously? Not only that, Soifon lost her arm in the way of Death, literally.
I mean to have the skin burn right down to the bone within seconds, zomg that has to be just insane.

I wonder what's worst to her, that, or first realzing Yoruichi left SC back then, lol.
During the SCC, she cried when she came back (which was sad; I'm a huge fan of them being together ^_~`).

You know who I wish had a Bankai, but most definitely doesn't? Izuru.
I'm a huge fan of his Shikai, one of the most effective in the entire anime,
but wow imagine a second release of that thing. Jesus, talk about something possibly Earth shattering.

My opinion, I doubt they'd be former Shinigami, if so, it'd be weird to have such weird figures as Shinigami.
Then again Komomura's a giant Fox, and Mayutsuchi is a... well, yeah...

It's possible that they're from even another world, a dimension nobody can reach.
It's like in Death Note where Ryuk was with those other Shinigami. Maybe it's something like that?
It'll definitely be interesting though, but I'm just curious to see how long this arc will last for.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-23 00:44:29
Well, she did say specifically she hated her Bankai and never
used it because it was so large and all -- not meant for stealth.

So, if it does have another form or power, it'll most likely be
some other mass-area move or something. I don't think she does
have another form, though, and Kubo just kicked her down the drain.

I hope I'm wrong, though, cause she is awesome ~


-- I'm not too into Her and Yoruichi together though, LMAO.



And yeah -- Bleach has a thing for people getting massivly hurt,
about to die, should have died, etc -- and then they either get
healed or get some massive powerup to heal and keep fighting.

Ex: Ichigo nearly every Arc, Toshiro pulling some random move
we never even saw something similiar to before when Halibel owned
him in like a second, Fox-Boy getting owned, People losing arms...


And Yeah, Izuru is really awesome -- which is why I love the anime
for him. He got to show alot more of his stuff then the manga, thanks
alot to the New 3rd Captain Arc. Kira was just AWESOME in it.

I personally think his Bankai could effect like a whole area,
possibly increasing the Gravity multiple times in a certain radius
around him for the whole fight -- while he can move normally. You
could even give him something to balance it out, and say if you are
touching his hilt or something the gravity won't effect you ~


As for the spirits, we'll see. That's why I can't wait for the
new arc -- We get to learn alot of unknowns, and Zanpakuto spirits
are one of the many unknown in the Bleach World we havent explored.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-24 23:42:58
Not a Yoruichi x Soifon fan like me? Awww.

The new chapter is nice. Nothing surprising yet since you can tell what's going on already.
Shinji won't be taking on Aizen, instead all the other Shinigami will be paired up with the Vizards.
Only Gin was left alone, and if I read it right, Aizen won't be fighting (for now).

It's pretty cool since former Captains/allies will be facing off against each other/with each other.

The chapter pretty much shows this and nothing else. Now another seven days for new chapter. >_<;;

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2009-07-25 11:49:26
LOL THE CHAPTER WAS ELITE.

I had a feeling they may pair up in battle, but the way Kubo
had them pair up was pretty awesome. And bringing in Fox-Boy
was pretty awesome -- but what sent me over the edge was when
SHUUHEI, MY MAN, Came in and wanted in on the fight.

Gonna be a pretty epic battle all around as the war in Karakura
keeps going. I expect alot of good things, and this Chapter has
sorda renewed my faith in Tite Kubo. Now maybe we won't have to
see anything else like Soifon's Bankai; And if Shuuhei suddenly
whips out a Bankai, I will just go insane.

Though with his skill, His Shikai can match a Captain's easy.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-07-25 18:07:00
lol, don't blame him because of a Bankai you dislike.

And I doubt he'd have a Bankai. He'd either doesn't have one, or he would've used it against that monster Yamamoto took care of.
His Shikai is awesome enough, I can't imagine what his Bankai would be like.

I want to see more from Yachiru. She's the only Lieutenant we haven't see any abilities from yet,
but it's already confirmed she's one of the toughest in Gotei 13. :O

I like Hisagi's Shikai, but he hasn't revealed any moves along with it.
Kira's a different story since he has an effect with his Zanpakuto.
And plus, both fight alongside Kidou since they can easily use it freely (Hisagi and his 100 Stepped Rails).
I can see them being like Rukia, who has three moves with her Shikai and a group of Kidou moves.

(Then again when you graduate from Academy and enter in Gotei 13, you should already be able to use it much freely,
though in this case only a few # of Shinigami use Kidou more consistently than others)

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