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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-28 11:46:14
Oh, almost forgot to say this... To battle being alone, I vote we all get some sort of online game (for example: Halo, Starcraft, Guild Wars, Warcraft III, Diablo 2, etc.), and all get on sometime at like 7:00 pm, or something like that. The time to get on will be hard to handle, though, because we all have different time zones. If anyone agrees with this or has a game they'd want to do, just let me know.... Or if you don't agree, let me know....


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-28 12:15:52
i had no 9idea that Luken got banned until you guys told me. if anyone can get aholkd of him, tell him we miss him and want him back ASAP!

thank you for the hug *depressed sigh*

Lady_rin: You know we are always here for you...because you will be lonely, i will make it a point to check gendou at least 5 times a day...i am sure Ranger will be fine, but i can understand your anxiety...be strong, you will be fine...do you have an AIM? because if you do, we can talk on that if you wish...mi AIM again is

nightmare588

and if ANYONE wants to play any online games with me, i play Doom 3, Unreal Tornament 2004, Age of Empires 2, Tibia, Diablo 2, and Halo (pc)
my name is either nightmare, snorky, or jib


GO CATHOLIC CENTRAL IN THE MICHIGAN PLAYOFFS!


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-10-28 18:02:52 (edited 2005-10-28 18:03:54)
Thank you all for your support. Online games, the only ones I have are X-plane and Falcon 4. Most of the games all of you like to play I don't like because of the violence. I do belong to an online airline simulation through X-plane and I am a tanker and escort pilot in Falcon. I could do that. thank you for the suggestion. That will be a big help. Ranger also left me a stack of fansubs to watch and I do have a few things to do around the house. It's the empty bed I don't like, sleeping alone. It's very difficult to be separated even for a short time. Right now is just 6:00 and I'm going to make a light dinner and watch a few fansubs. I'll be here on and off.

OMG I'm watching the news and the top story was a bank robbery at my bank. Four black men took over the bank and held everybody then got away. I know all of those people Donna, Dana, Samantha all of them are friends. Oh my, I have to call Dana.


Love you all.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Doraemon on 2005-10-28 18:54:46
I can't really talk to my wife about this so I think I'll try to talk here. I'm not sure whether I should be sad or angry. A group of three juvenile delinquents, probably still in high school, tried to mug me two nights ago while I was walking my dogs. They attacked me because they thought I was homeless and they wanted my wedding ring. I live in a neighborhood that's going a little further south everyday so I dress down when I go out to walk my dogs so the vagrants won't ask me for money and people won't try to jack me. This is the first time my clothes have had an effect like this. The kids were tagging one of the local businesses when they saw me coming. I crossed the street to avoid them but they followed me and started running after me. I ended up behind a car dealership when they cornered me.

One of them started flicking change at my face and asked me if I was lost. Me?! Those kids weren't from my neighborhood. The fucking wanna be ghetto rats were suburbanites who were tagging places outside where they lived. The oldest looked like he was 17 and the youngest had to be somewhere around 14. I was almost backed to a wall when one of them pushed me. I dropped the leash and set my big dog loose and he chased one of them for about a block. My little dog stood there barking at them. The bigger kid started screaming and cussing, talking about how he was gonna roll me. Both of them rushed me. The big one threw a punch at me so I sidestepped his arm and directed his fist into the wall. I spun around and planted my knee into his back as hard as I could given the space. I messed up though because that left my back open to the smaller guy. He hit me twice before in the back before I turned around and backhanded him. He went down clutching his nose and I hobbled off to retrieve my big dog. I didn't want to stick around in case the bigger guy got up.

I don't know why I should be more angry. Should I be mad just because these kids tried to rob me or should I be even more pissed because they tried to rob me because they thought I was homeless. I heard things like this were going on downtown but I never thought it would happen in my neighborhood. Either way I can't talk to my wife about it because she's paranoid as it is and I know telling her would make things worse. It just makes me sad that our neighborhood is deteriorating like this. This never would have happened two years ago and now I am really tempted to get a CCW just so I can walk my dogs and protect my family.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-10-28 19:37:21
To start with you sucessfully defended yourself which is more than I could do for myself. It is alright to feel both saddness and anger at the situation, it is beginning to happen here and we live in the desert mountains away from people. As far as you wife is concerned you owe it to her to tell her. She worries enough and if something were to happen to you she would at least want to know why and what brought it on. I also think you should report this incident to the police. If you can identifiy these kids press charges. Let them know they can't get away with acts like this. Let them know yu are willing to fight back with more than your fists. Lastly, we moved from the lo-desert city because crime was growing, there were shootings and gang warfare and yor wife and I probably felt the same way. Paranoid and frightened. We moved away from our home, from the city Ranger was born in for a more peaceful existence in the hi-desert. Many of our friends said we ran away. I now have peace of mind and I feel safe, that's worth a few friends saying ran away. Talk to her. find out how she feels and what she wants to do. Give her the option of a life elsewhere. It is a difficult thing to do. We did and I'm very happy we live here. Please keep us informed.

Doraemon you've made me a little more paranoid and insecure tonight. I guess it's because I'm alone. I'm going to go lock the gates. I may come back later.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-28 20:21:50
wow, that sucks...i would be pissed and sad as well, sad that more and more kids are turning out like that. it is kinda sad.

Lady_Rin: I can understand how you feel...so used to haveing someone there to hold you close and then when Ranger is gone, you feel unprotected. I will say a rosery for you before i go to bed tonight...it is the least i could do to help. After all, you are quite a ways away from Michigan. Take comfort in knowing that someone is watching over you tonight. So sleep tight, goodnight, and sweet dreams...i know it is hard to be away from someone you love...but he will return on Sunday and then everythign will be alright again.

Goodnight....we all love you too.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-28 20:32:16
Hello, all. So much happened in 10 hours...

Nightmare, I have Halo for PC! We should get on sometime.

Lady Rin... I feel so bad for you... Hope you like your fansubs. Hey, it could possibly happen that someone will try to break in to your house, but they'll fail because you locked up! ....Don't know if that's reassuring or going to make you more paranoid. Well, I'll help if I can, but all I can do is type...

Doraemon, good for you! I feel bad for your almost-mugging, but you fought them off, so that's good and all. If you ever get mugged again, pull off an Ender Wiggin and hurt 'em so bad, they'll never come back.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-10-28 20:52:04
I recently there are more and more police in my neighborhood I havent heard of any muggings. This kinda crap only happens around the schools. Next time I would break thier arms or legs just to disable them from making any more muggings. And I think muggers dont discriminate against clothes they just mug.

I would be angry at least, but I somewhat like getting into this kinda situation. If I could find muggers just walking along the side of the street I would have a new hobby called mugger hunting.

Anyways when you see these kids around call the local police tell them the location of the kids and continue your walk. If you feel up to it take the kids out until the police arrive.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by night_link on 2005-10-28 21:00:44
I like how you didn't want to worry your wife about the situation Doraemon. I agree with pretty much what everyone says.

Oh crap, why is it I keep getting limited time on the PC? People trying to get on and booted off...

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Doraemon on 2005-10-28 21:03:21
Lady Rin, I'm sorry if I made you paranoid. I'll try to talk to her about it when she gets home from work later. As far as the police are concerned, we've called the police here about issues with neighbors before and other problems and they eventually show up within a day or two and it never amounts to anything. Maybe it is time to consider moving. Thank you for your advice.

Sachiel, my sensei told me once that if we were ever in the situation where we were attacked by multiple people and couldn't run away to take the biggest attacker on and to nail him with such a display of force that it would make the others think twice about a head on attack. I never thought I'd be in this type of situation when I was walking my dogs and if I didn't have them with me I would have made one of them pay in pain. Then again if my dogs weren't with me, I would have had to face off against three of them instead of two.

Nightmare, I don't know what this world is coming to. Everyday it's like more and more kids are doing things like this. It doesn't matter where I go or where I live, no place feels safe anymore and it seems like they're getting younger and younger. I'm starting to rant so I think I'm going to call it a night. Thanks everyone. Take care of yourselves.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Doraemon on 2005-10-28 21:09:06
Jomunga, the last time I "assisted" until the police arrived I got my butt kicked by later bystanders that thought I was the criminal so I find myself quite hesitant to become directly involved a conflict unless the trouble comes looking for me.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ketsuki on 2005-10-28 23:02:23
i dont know what i would do if i was in a situation like yours doraemon.

Nejigirl, the senior year will make you realize alot of things. take it from, this is my secont time being a senior and it still made me realize a few more things. and almost everyone in school is superfacial and that is way i dont like being around alot of people.

and im confused about alot of stuff going on with kitsu, i know i said i was giving up, but i cant, so much going on and i guess she does it with out know, but when she talks about other guys (not as friends, but as guys) i feel like im being stabbed right in the chest. just know we were talking about this guy that likes her, but she says she dont like him like that, and she asked why was i so worried about it and i didnt know what to say so i said it was cuz i was her brother and stuff like that. i think i should have told her the truth as to why was i worried. all of it just plain sucks.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-28 23:20:49
Doraemon, in a situation like yours, carry a knife or gun with you at all times.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by zparticus27 on 2005-10-29 03:20:28
doraemon..why not train the dog to ward of or scare hoodlums like that... train him to be more aggressive... and you shouldnt feel ashamed about it...at least your still alive and nothing got stolen right? all i can say is during that kind of situation just keep your cool and try to protect yourself...and if your life is in danger, give in...your stuff might be stolen but at least your alive...

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-10-29 07:05:26
Thank a you for your concern. it does make me feel betteR. Don't worry about making me paranoid, it's just the way I am sometimes, Tthat ans fearful even though I know I'm perfectly safe here. I was behind, I still am, behind locked doors and gates. There is really no reason for me to do so as no one has ever been robbed or invaded here. I also know about assault, I was attacked and almost raped once only Ranger was there to protect me, still I do fear personal attack.

Nightmare thank you for your prayers. *hug*

Ketsuki I think you need to take a firm step with yourself Kitsu-chan. I know it's difficult to talk to her and you're not alone in that respect. Take her someplace quiet, intimate, or romantic, Tell her how you feel, gently tell her how you feel when she talks about other boys. Pull your courage together and jsut talk to her abotu the two of you. The longer times goes by the harder it shall become. Please don't lie to yourself anymore and tell her your honest feelings otherwise it shall only cause you more pain. I think once you have done this, whether you are rejected or not, you shall feel better and you shall have said what's i your heart. Don't leave it bottled up yo need to tell her.


S-a-c-h-i-e-l I understand what you are saying however abotu carrying a weapon. I am a pacifist and don't believe in violence or guns even though I can shoot. Ranger has made sure I can handle firearms safely and I even like to shoot .22s at cans and targets sometimes, only I could never use one against a person or an animal. I killed a rattlesnake once and I felt very guilty for days afterwards. If you do decide to carry a weapon then here are a few of Ranger's words on weapons and self-defense. He has taught this to Ky and made sure that I knew it as well.

About knives he said:

1) If you are carrying a knife as a weapon you have to be trained to use it properly.
2) If you do get into a fight with someone who is holding a knife then you have to put away the fear of being stabbed or injured.
3) The object of a knife fight, any fight, is to win as quickly as possible. The longer it takes the better the odds are on losing.
40 Never take a knife to a fight. Take a gun.

About firearms he said;

1) If you you draw your weapon, use it do not hesitate, shoot.
2) Never try to wound an enemy that takes skill, always shoot to kill because a dead man can't sue you.
3) Shoot any armed people first then the shoot the person closest to you.
4) I hate this last one. Using a weapon in a fight there is only one goal, to win by any means possible as quickly as possible including taking a life.

I have been taught to protect myself, I took karate for three years. I don't even have what it takes to attack a dummy or another student in class. I have always been afraid that if I'm ever attacked again I would lose since I'm too small and don't believe in violence. Still in the past several years I have learned that perhaps Ranger is right to carry a gun. He hasn't been without one since the night of my assault.

I watched a fansub called Futari Ecchi last night. It was sweet and made me want Ranger so I watched Sakura wars and FMP:Fumofuu then went to bed.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Doraemon on 2005-10-29 10:52:38
Lady Rin, I took Aikido for two years and Karate (Isshin Ryu and Shotokan) for four years. Even though I am not comfortable fighting with people outside of a controlled environment I still think it's to be able to if I have to on the streets. I am also trained to use firearms. My weapon of choice is a S&W 686 .357 Magnum. I use it at work everyday but I don't have a CCW (Carry Concealed Weapon) permit so I don't carry it with me when I go out. Ranger sounds a lot like my qualification instructor. Never forget the "I was in fear for my life" quote to give the police in case they show up. I gave the police a statement this morning, they asked me why I waited so long and I told them I was waiting for my back to recover.

zparticus, My big dog Riley (Golden Retriever) is already trained that way. That's why he chased off one of them. The little one, Midou Ban, is a foot tall terrier mix. He can't exactly inspire terror in people. He tries though God bless him. I'm not ashamed because of what happened. I'm pissed because these low-life degenerate wanna be's did this not even a block away from my home in a brightly lit area where people are known to travel. These kids didn't care about my money. They wanted to beat someone up and take a trophy and they were brazen about it. I think they would have tried to beat me to death if I let them.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-29 12:16:29
I agree with some of Ranger's ideas there. If you're in a street fight, you fight to win, meaning you can fight dirty. My neighborhood isn't too bad with violence, just has a problem with vandalism and theft. I've never been in a serious fight before, except for a few small fist fights with friends. I never really thought about it, but I'm really lucky to live where I am.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-10-29 15:18:04
What kind of work do you do Doraemon? Ranger was a ranger for years. Range would say that the S&W 686 is not suitable, to put it kindly, despite the fact for years he carried and S&W .375 'K' frame. He prefers to carry a carries a Lama Omni although he also has a Baretta and a Sig Sauer both all three in 45 cal. He also says any caliber starting with less than 4 is a waste. I do have some firearms knowledge, he made sure of that. He told me that if they're are going to be guns in the house I need two be able to safe and clear any of them.

I don't really like guns however if you have to live with them you should know about them.

Ranger sounds like everyboidy's instructor in firearms, self defense, survival, trail safety and the list goes on. The stranger thing is there is no trace of the macho attitude you would expect to see in a person who does all of that.

I'm sorry I'm babbling, it's still an empty house tonight.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Doraemon on 2005-10-29 16:30:46
I am a cash vault manager. I run a vault for an armored trucking company. We serve as the bank for the banks and the casinos here. I almost bought an S&W 500 a few weeks ago but I decided to save the money. I figured there was no need to carry around a monster like that but now I am reconsidering. Still need the CCW before I buy anything else. When I do bring my gun home I keep it safe and cleared with a trigger lock on it and the speed loader next to it. I would still disagree about the any caliber less than 4 comment though but I guess that is another thread.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-29 16:41:43
Thank you so very much for the hug...it means alot.

i got another virus, so i have been spending the day backing up my stuff and am juist about ready to reformat...so it will be a while before i can post again, like 2 hours...I will try and hurry for Lady_Rin's sake...i can get pritty lonely even though my computer will only be gone for a couple of hours.

I remember when Ranger posted that on the original deprssin thread..and i agree. Personally, i like the .50cal AE Desert Eagle...even though i have never actually fired one (or any gun for that matter) i just love how they opperate...and they are perticualrly good in video games....the action exp[ress rounds are a nice feature. mmmmmmmmmmmmm magnum *drools

i would love to meet Ranger and you someday...but my parents will not let me lieve the house, much less travle to the Southwestern United States... *sigh i have alwayse wondered how cool it would be to walk up to your tour place and just ask for "Lady_Rin" and have people look at me and go "WHO?" "who is this guy in the black cloak?" then i would say "tell her nightmare would like to see her" and it would be funny because you, ranger, and me would be the only ones who would know what we are talking about. then i might actually get that huggle thing thaty you talked about....oh well, it is only a dream anyway...

see ya! ill be quick and i will tell you as soon as i am back online!


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