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Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-06 18:47:11
I dont know if I would call it relationship stuff and I think Sero already has a friend who really wants to help.

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Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by overlordsero on 2007-03-06 18:53:08 (edited 2007-03-06 18:55:05)
Well, the only one that could help is Naenae.
I have no one else really that could help.
I dont have that many friends.

however if I do go down there then I would need to quit my job then hope to find one down there within about a month.

and I still need to do my taxes and a W2 was sent to the wrong address and I still dont have it yet.

anyways I need to clean up and close work, laters.

oh and I can speak for myself <.<

Light and Dark

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-06 19:00:04
yeah I know I was just saying but at least you will have a place to stay and all

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Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Ryoko no baka on 2007-03-06 19:28:00
I guess it's always sorta pointless to say "it's gonna be allright", cuz you never know. But I guess that's the classic comfort phrase.

@sero, hope everything works out for you!

@Naenae, people love you okay? Dun put urself down like that! (I think alot like that all the time, but I find it dumb cuz I just end up being even more depressed) so cheer up!!! -_~... okay, well atleast try!

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by D-ninja on 2007-03-07 09:59:05
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one that picks up on certain things. Maybe I've been watching people for too long, or maybe all my extended metaphors have trained me into looking at the deeper meanings of things. In any case...

Sero, sometimes you have to chase that bad pitch. It may look like there's no chance of getting that hit, but certain situations demand it. But there's no excuse for sitting on an underhand toss, you have to hit those out of the park. For you the outfielder's asleep, the first baseman is talking to the fans, the pitcher is tired, the catcher is laying down, the second baseman is in la-la-land, the short-stop is high, the third baseman is trying to eat the base, and the entire crowd is cheering for you. You could bunt this one and get a home-run, take a swing.

Nae Nae, from what little I think I know about you, you seem to be the type who thinks out everything before you do it. That's a great strategy for turn-based things, alas life isn't. Thinking about things before you do them is great idea, but thinking too much about them will just hold you back. Get a rough idea and go for it, plans are meant to change so change them. Even if you fail miserably there's always one place you can come back to to restart, here. Do your best as you go, for if you do that then there will never be any cause for regret. Even if your best seems like it has no effect it does. A small trickle of water can carve out a canyon and even the lightest pressure and focus can sway the mightiest of towers. In the midst of seemingly unsurmountable opposition a small effort can build and turn things around. Everything takes time, but you have to invest all of that time to see the result. Giving up before you see a result is complete failure, but if you stick with something you can, at the very least, say that did try your best. For that is all we can do, at it what we should always do.

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by overlordsero on 2007-03-07 14:26:40 (edited 2007-03-07 14:32:45)
@D-Ninja
that is until they all summon their Mech units and squish me <.<
(Im squishy XD)

man this is not my day...

have to do laundry, almost put darks into bleach infested water....

Got directions to some temporary job agencies....
either they were specialized ones and Im not quiet qualified or they were closed for good.

then some person tried to get away with stealing glasses...
still was shaking a bit after I got them back XD (my first "bust")

and now I just saw some guy wearing a HUGE leprachaun hat LOLZ- probly the highlight of my day too XD

Light and Dark

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Ryoko no baka on 2007-03-07 14:50:13
sorry, but this is gonna sound seriously immature, but I hate highschool. My teacher wants me to enter a Graphic Desing competition, I really want to, but I have to miss class... and I have a Calculus (my worst subject) test that day, and I have to miss English,.... and my teacher wouldn't appreciate it... and I'm scared she's gonna hate me (I know, but she's like that, but she's an awesome teacher tho). My Graphic Design teacher has so much hope for me, but I'm letting him down, and I'm also scared he's gonna (not like me as much)... he's really nice, and I really dun wanna disappoint him... but I already said no. I told my parents about it, and my dad was like. "Pssht, school is most important". I got so pissed... I seriousy feel like crap right now. I hate school, I wish to be over.

*yes, I am still an immature little brat, but I'm almost at my limit*

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Wolf on 2007-03-07 15:15:04
Your design teacher sounds like my old engineering teacher. So if you want to enter the contest then go for it. Explain it to your teachers beforehand and I'm sure they'll schedule a make-up date and hand you the lesson for the day. They will appreciate the heads-up and be more inclined to help you out. Teachers are there to empower you, not hold you back. The ones that hold you back are worthless and you should inform them of that.

Saying no before thinking it all over is a rash decision. You have to make sacrifices in order to do what you love. Atleast you go to class. My senior year I told most of my teachers they would see me on test days and a few minutes after school to hand in work and that was it. Then I trained for track and went to engineering. It is tough to split your time right but it's worth it in the end. A hard day's work leaves every man satisfied.

Your parents want you to have a good education and that's fine. Every parent wants the best for their children. If you can straighten it all out with your teachers then I see no problem. Even if your teachers dick you over, I'd go to the contest anyway. Then complain to the principal if they don't let you make-up the test.

Good luck with all that man. Shoot for the stars.

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Woxx on 2007-03-07 18:48:54
Okee... it's kind of stupid....
I don't do anything but study.
i get up, I go to school, which is far away, I go to lacrosse, which im so bad at its not even funny, and i go home, do HW, and write study guides for my exmas which don't even count this year.
My friends from my old school have kind of forgotten me.
My friends at my new school go to parties every weekend, that i was invited to, but can't go, since I have chinese school, art class, math tutoring, and instrument lessons, which i'm all equally bad at, except art (my choice) and math. my friends tell me to skip chinese school, but thats the only time i get to see some of my old friends.
I cant get straight as, even though all i do is study... i cant write an analytical essay for my life...

oo.... to ryoko..
like wat wolf said- if you want to do the contest, go for it, and tell your teachers before, they'll appreciate that. (i just rephrased wat wolf saidd....)

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by devils-angel on 2007-03-07 18:55:04
Oh, I was learning about the Chinese School System today in History class today.
I can't really say "cheer up" or something, because the Chinese School System is very stressful and hard working.
I would die if I was doing the things you were doing now.
Well, at least one good thing is you get to see your old friends.
That's always a pleasure for me to see friends from a long time ago. :D

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Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-07 18:59:57
I sleep half my classes and make better grades than most. But I'm a bit of an autodidact.

I feel odd, I remember when I was young, I couldn't want for my birthday to get a new toy. After my family forgot my birthday, I started having an apathy towards it. As my cynical view starting to put it: It's just reminding you how long you have to live. Being exposed to death at an young age, I guess partly influences that view.

I've always had a Peter Pan type hold on life, but my grandma constantly wants me to be like other girls. Funny, most parents said they'd love to have me. I'm pretty low maintenance, give me a book, I'm happy for an hour or so. (Hell, I help my classmates learn the meaning of bibliophile because I'm always reading)

And now, I'm just waiting to see who remembers. I'm an odd case.


Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Ryoko no baka on 2007-03-08 14:46:23
it's kinda ironic, but litening to other people's trouble sorta comforts me, ^_^, yeah, I guess I'm a nut case. But recently I've been feeling really down, I dunno... I think it's cuz I'm too much of a guy, but I'm a girl... but then... I dunno. It's like all my friends are like "I'd so fall in love with you if you were a guy"... I laugh it off, but I mean... I am a girl. ==_==... I da know..

About school... I just talked to my design teacher today, he ignored me. That's that.

@Woxx, school sux. That won't change anytime soon. ==_==, LOL, did that cheer you up? haha. (sorry, I'm really down)

@Ayu-chan, what's a bibliophile!? lol, and you're not old, you're younger than me... wait, then what does that make me???!! (looks in mirro) GREAT! I'm a an old guy! >()<

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-08 15:06:42
Someone who loves books


Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-08 15:14:58
Woxx,a similar thing like that is happening to me,but I think that's because I'm dense.Ryoko No Baka,I understand what you mean. I make people happy by doing worse than them.I don't do it on purpose,but I guess if it makes people happy,I'm glad,but sad at the same time....Noww I'm making no sense. Sorry if this makes no sense.

"The only person who'll decide my path is ME. Nobody else!" Kai Hiwatari

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Ryoko no baka on 2007-03-08 15:55:38
@LWK, I love the name Kai, but anyone, i didn't mean that I see other people's lives and am comforted... it's just nice to know you're not alone in all of this crap. (I would use a more severe tone, but there's rules I have to follow... along with the other million out there. lol) Dun worry, no need to apologize about not making sense, har har, besides, it made sense to me. And dun ruin ur own life to make others happy, that's more "baka" than me. And you can't be... *glares at you* ^_^

@Ayu-chan, lol, thanks, one more word to my minute word bank ==_==ii

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by D-ninja on 2007-03-08 17:00:11
sero, what kind-of base-ball you playing that it has summon-able mecha?

Ryoko, I've boxed myself out-of many opportunities because I had other things to do. A skill that everyone develops as life progresses is prioritizing and the subsequent understanding of what you really want to do. The thing that most people fail to realize is that you can't please others if you're not content. You can try to please everyone but if you're not helping yourself in anyway then there's no way that anyone else can benefit. But it looks like you have grasped that idea already, and believe it or not that sets you up higher than a good majority of the population.

As far as the seeming like a guy part, have you ever thought of it as a hidden compliment. Perhaps you should look past the pretense of being called a boy and at the fact that your friends like you enough in the way you behave that they'd fall for you.

Woxx, everyone learns differently, maybe the way your studying isn't for you. I don't study, because I'm a firm believer that if I don't know it when I leave the room then I won't the night before the test. I try to figure everything out before I go off and overwrite it with my next class. That way the ideas are cemented in my mind long before the test. Studding for me actually lowers my grade, it's been proven. Also your workload might be excessive, I understand about trying to keep with your old friends but I also doubt they'd want you to do poorly because of them. If you feel pressured and like there's too much you have to do then maybe you are. Follow your own guides, for they know what paths you should take the best.

Ayu, same here but there's a slight difference, it didn't affect me the same way. I turned cynical for a while but it's pointless to assume the worst. Now I'm more of a realistic idealist, or a person who sees the up-side that exists not just the one I hope exists. I also accept the fact that there are fundamental flaws in the world, but I make the best out of what is given to me and work the flaws so that they cover for each other and that there's no holes. But that's just me.

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Ryoko no baka on 2007-03-08 18:19:53
@D-Ninja, lol, thanks that comforted me... but still, it's hard for a girl to take that. I mean, being a guy is fun and all, but I still am a girl! >()< And the prioritzing part... hmm... actually, I need to work on that, I keep thinking of what would make my parents and teachers happy... mehn, muzukashii... >()< but thanks for that! ^_^

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by Wolf on 2007-03-08 19:35:57
It seems oddly funny to me how the subject I am about to bring up contrasts the differences between the natures of people. I have to start off saying that the tendencies of men can be deplorable....utterly and simply. Today was the first day in a very long time when I have lost the ability to keep my cool. I always seem to be able to keep my emotions under control though the majority of the time I am controlling the aforementioned deplorable ones. Nevertheless that does not excuse the fact that I couldn't control them this time around. I will try to explain in depth the events surrounding the situation that led me to lose my temper but I am quite embarrassed by the event as a whole.

In short I was finally able to get the majority of my former group of friends together to have a night to catch up together. We all gathered together at my friend's family bar(yes we are all underage and no we weren't served alcohol mainly because a lot of my friends have shunned it completely) but this older "gentleman" *cough* asshole *cough* in his late 30's started to hit on a girl that I treat practically as my younger sister. Normally we would poke fun at her for this kind of stuff happening but this guy went well over the "comfort zone" and I could see when she looked at me that this guy wasn't right. Fast forward past the parts of this situation I regret and we end up with an unconscious old man, my bruised hand, and a completely ruined night for my friends and I. Thankfully we were thrown out of the bar before the physical "confrontation" took place and it did not affect my friend's bar in anyway.

Fast-forwarding makes it sound a little better doesn't it? Thought not. Why do men have this, I am going to call it urge, to go about things in all the wrong ways? We have these urges to disregard commonly accepted boundaries and bring more harm to things than is warranted? This goes for the lecherous old piece of....gentleman and the thick-headed idiot who perpetuated the situation aka me. I have brought this question up with my friends but they all tell me I was justified in doing what I did. Then why does it all seem so wrong to me? I can't excuse myself for acting like what many people view as the stereotypical aggressive male. Do you think there is any truth to this stereotype? I can't just help but tell myself that had it been any other establishment where I did not know the owners, I would be sitting in lock up for the night, at the very least. Then where would I be? And all because of my own thick-headed nature.

Thank the good that everyone is around long enough for us to get together on Saturday again. When I look back on all the circumstances and how it could have played out really bad, I thank whatever guardian I have looking out for me. That guardian must really have its hands full.

Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by on 2007-03-08 20:04:13
Assuming the worst, after being mistreated by people so much, you'll eventually develop it. But I'm n optimistic cynic. Today, ack, I just been pushed to my point. We had a sub for a week and math, two days straight, one boy been teasing me excessively, and a buddy part of the time. Today, it went to the point where I just went to the front of the building and just cried. They got suspended, but I'm a bit afraid of what they'll do when they come back. They saw it as a game, and just laughed. Don't they understand that actually hurt people? People say I'm a bit sadistic, but I never intentionally try to hurt anyone. They almost sent me through another emotional breakdown, I can't handle that anymore.

Wolf: We all have our breaking point. I'm a very emotional person, but it takes a lot for me to breakdown. If you're like me, you're very protective of your friends. I'm a bit too forgiving of people, which will lead to my downfall one day. A forgiving cynic, ha! Often, the guilt complex kicks in, there was a better to handle the situation, but pain has the best effect. It's like burning your hand on the stove, once you done it, you remember not to do it again.

Ryoko: I like reading people problem, always conclude the "There's worse off." section of my mind. Even though I shouldn't think so It's a bit sadistic. *pops self* It say go for it. I'd like to try something like that, but not to good. *pops self for self depreciating*

On an odd note: I had a teacher who tried to stop my self depreciating; It's a bit of a hard habit to stop once you've been doing it your whole life. I have a lot of talents, just none that's practical. ._. Besides intelligence, but you'll be surprised how common it's actually it, as much as people disclaim it. Okay, any tips on me not putting myself down anymore?*goes write a list of everything she's good at*


Re: The Depression Thread V4
Link | by D-ninja on 2007-03-09 16:45:09
Ryoko, that's what we're here for.


Wolf, given my limited understanding of the situation I'm not going to pass judgment on you or your actions, but I will say what I think I might have done. Right and wrong is not for me to decide, it's a personal opinion and it changes readily.

As you well know I respect most everyone with a certain level that I rarely go below, however there are many that I hold in high regard that I would do most anything for. I'm going to guess that this girl you spoke of is about the same to you. If another man were to begin to make her uncomfortable I would do most things in my power to stop said man's actions. I am calm and non-aggressive 99% of the time, but that other 1% is probably not something anyone should be around. In that 1% there's another 1% in which I an particularly angry, actually angry is soft for what that is. I can only ever remember 2 times that I have ever been that angry. It's hard to get me there simply by doing stuff to me, but if you touch anything I care for I can get there instantly. Which is what happened in one of those two times. In a situation like the one you described, the first thing I would've done was try to be the guy's "friend" and tel him this isn't the place for it. In the likely event of that failing I would strongly and assertively recommend for his benefit to just walk away. By this time I would most likely be slightly agitated, but not resorting to violence, yet. Chances are that if made a single pass at this girl that I had a high regard for I might get between them physically and forcibly remove him from the area. Now, if it would take an action on his part i.e. a thrown punch or something against said girl for me to take a whack at his soft melon-head. Of course that's an ideal situation, but I would hope that things never got to that final event.

Just remember that only you know what is right and wrong, and you should always stand by choices you make and take full responsibility for them no matter the turn out.


Ayu, there's nothing wrong with forgiving people, it makes for a good person through and through. There's one sure-fire way to stop putting yourself down, and that's to receive compliments from other people. There's also the second option, and that's to find someone to which you can tell anything to. Having someone else who understands you as well as you do is a sure-fire way to be happier. I've seen it on many work on many occasions. The trick is finding someone with whom you can do that with. I'm not going to say it's easy because it's not, but there are people out there that can be that type of person for you. It's up to you to find them however, as they usually don't just walk into your life, usually.

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