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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 07:01:07 |
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hm... i want to join but the slot already close ^^, i lack ability in drawing but have something with words^^, so if there any opening in story writer, count me in er~ pm me if possible^^ but i'm going to check this thread occasionally 
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 08:15:04 |
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@key slots are still open!^^ the deadline are not yet posted till DA approved for it...just make as many stories as you can...the staff will decide whether the story you had created would be accepted or not...^^ @Imppy just be sure which position would you really take becoz after all the staff are posted, there will be no more changes^^   
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 09:52:09 |
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lol I too am planning something like this but I am too crappy at many other departments.. I want to join but I have no control over my time, but I can dedicate whatever is left in my free time to anything.. The most fitting job/position for me there is uhh.. Main Page designer.. does that position also include making the title logo for the whhateveritis manga? I thhink I can handle front page des. >_> Why not start small with a one shot or something? 
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 10:53:24 (edited 2007-04-14 10:54:42)
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Imppy:: Still, they're not that bad. I like 'em. ^^, Ich:: You can tell me stuff through PM. I'll discuss everything there before telling more info here. I think you should first find the members who'll fill in the positions that won't involve the computer.
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 11:26:55 |
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@DANGEL: Though you have a point, we'll all need a computer at some point (transferring). (lol) Not sound like I want to rush things, but I think that if we can get the writers together first, then they could start the "test" page/story/whatever while we continue to focus on the rest of the team. Also, I mentioned this before, but the artists would have to concentrate on their own set of drawings right? Such as Artist A should always draw Yui (a character, name is random) while Artist B should always draw Kiki to ensure the characters themselves don't look different as if two different people were drawing them. Heck, you could make the artists be the Manga's "actors" in the sense that they have to draw and have the character "act" to the script. Also, the same would go for each scene's background (besides the "actor" part...). Make sense? 
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 11:47:16 |
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Of course you'll need a computer... afterwards and after the drawing, and all the writing stuff is decided.
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 12:23:07 |
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Wow. This is getting intense. I think I would like to be a main page designer, because I don't have much free time to do the actual art. Character designing is really hard for me @__@ So, I don't know. I also can't write stories worth sh!t, so I am no help there. Do I just give an example of my art?  |
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on 2007-04-14 13:30:01 |
And, if needed, I can be a character designer.  |
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on 2007-04-14 13:31:46 |
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I think you guys have to submit stuff in to see who can be what.
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on 2007-04-14 14:29:58 (edited 2007-04-14 14:37:23)
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i think we are going about this the wrong way. the first thing we need to do is, as stated, fill in the positions, but we do not have enough of those. in addition i think it should be okay for someone to perform more than one position, as long as they are related, and it is also possible for more than one person to perform the same position as long as it can't cause conflict. so here is my suggestion: positions: planning and writing: general plot-writer: gives out a general outline of the original setting and all the hidden mysteries/ planned developments in the story. can have up to two people working on it (preferably one and an assistant). character design: describing the characters personality and behaviour, including habits, background and relationships between characters. must be done after the story is written so the characters will already have places within the plot. can basically have as many people as there are characters, but preferably 3-5 people working together. scenery design: gives a layout of all the places where anything takes place. i.e if the story involves a school/house the scenery designers must describe it in as much detail as possible in order to help the visual scenery desginers get a picture of what they are supposed to draw. once again, preferably 3-5 people working together. dialogue writer: this job should be done by one person alone (and perhaps an assistant). unlike the first three, who should be more or less finished with their jobs before the first chapter/volume is out, the dialogue writer writes the exact script for every release, including sfx. obviously, this job requires the person in charge to have good english XD. also, this can only be written after the story developer finishes his job. *this is just my suggestion, but i think it would be nice if we could release the doujin in both english and japanese (and perhaps some other languages too), which would require translators for the script. story developer: decides at what pace the plot should unravel, what happens every release and how exactly everything goes. must go by the outline described by the plot writer. preferably 1-2 people. detailer: after the story developer finishes writing the release's story the detailer describes every scene in detail. i.e the poses that the characters take, their expressions etc. QC: a group of people (up to 10 should be fine in my opinion), that will go over everything right after it's done and say what they think, what cold be changed and in what way, whether there are inconsistencies etc. visual/drawing positions: character design: makes a sketch of the characters and their accessories according to the design made by the characater planners. can be as many as there are characters. must be at least two. the visual character designers must make the character's appearance match their personality. scenery design: draws the scenery and all the areas that are describes by the scenery describers. might need to make a few drawings of each place so that it can be seen from various angles and at different levels of detail. main artists: draw the actual manga/doujin. according to the sketches made by the character and scenery designers, and according to the story written by the story developer and detailer, they make the actual drawings. can be up to 5 people, as long as they all have specific assigned jobs (i.e X draws characters y, z and w, and A draws any background in the sceneries of m and n). cleaner: receives the drawings and makes sure they are put together cleanly and have no unnecessary blots. up to 2 people. editor: receives the complete chapter/volume and makes sure everything is good. no more than one person and an assistant. main page designer: easy enough to understand. other positions: distributor: uploads the complete release to as many DL sources as possible. the more the merrier ^_^. supervisor: makes sure everything is going on well and everyone is doing what they are supposed to. positions that can overlap: the visual character and scenery design as well as the main artists can be the same people if they wish it to be so. all writing and planning positions aside from QC can be done by the same people. character design and visual design can be done by the same people, as well as the scenery planning and visual design. cleaners, editors and distributors can perform any other position as well. QC cannot participate in any other activity concerning writing/planning. the supervisor cannot take any other position. the order of things: first the general plot-writer makes a story outline. after the story has gone through QC and has gone through its final modifications the character and scenery designers describe all the characters and places that are mentioned in the general plot, followed by another QC. next the visual character and scenery designers draw the characters and places described. these do not go through QC, but are checked and modifications are decided upon with the original designers/planners. in the case that these are the same people, they will decide upon this matter themselves. after all these stages have been done, the setting is complete and the people who work on the releases come onto the stage. first, the story developer decides what exactly will happen in the chapter/volume. the QC squad will then decide if it is acceptable (needs not to have too much for the release to contain, but something must happen. also must be in accordance with the original plot and moving it in the agreed-upon direction). then the detailer works out every scene in detail, followed by QC. after this, the dialogue writer decides the exact words and conversations that the characters say in every scene. at this point QC checks the script. one the script passes QC, all that is left s the art. the main artists draw the release according to the layout made by the writers and QC, followed by the main page designer making a coloured front page for the issue. next the cleaner receives the complete release and makes sure it is clean, the pictures understandable and the text readable. lastly, the complete issue gets to the editor, who makes sure the developments are clear in in the drawn manga including the front page and, if necessary adds a final touch. once all is done, it is the distributors' job to make sure the manga/doujin reaches its target. throughout the process, the supervisor makes sure everyone is doing their jobs and that all is going smoothly. of course this is just my opinion and should be treated as such, however i do think this is the right way to go about this matter if we intend to go through with it. concerning what i would like to do, out of the positions i wrote down, i would like to do anything in the writing (more than one position if there is a lack of people). if all the main writing positions will have people to fill them i will have no problem performing QC as well. out of the positions suggested on the first page i would like to be story writer or plot layout writer. p.s: i also thing we should keep a record of who applied for which position on the first page. p.s 2: sorry for the long post ;) |
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 15:58:37 |
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@just Wooo...what a post, but thanks for the explanation. @all Still need Character Designer ? I really want that position, hehe....   |
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 16:30:24 |
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It's great to see this idea taking off as well as it has! There are a ton of talented people contributing in amazing ways, and I'd like to help too. I simply won't be having much time for the next few months actually, till July to be specific...regardless, I'll be happy to help with character design (in retrospect, script writing is best reserved for others). I'd still be happy to help in anyway possible however. Best of luck! |
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-14 18:22:39 |
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@smile still open for hiring ^^ @DA ok ill just pm you then... @justpassing by wow what a post!thanks anywayz!^^ yeah I would to have that detailed stuff...but for the mean time, we're focusing to all the staff to be completed first...becoz its no use...if I would try all of that, It would definitely spend a large amount of time before all the staff would be completed...get what I mean...and Im not sure of DOUBLE JOB...It would be better for ONE POSITION ONE STAFF basis...except for some positions that are highly recommended for a large number of staff....but if you would prefer to join...you would be a big help!^^ @Terr I know what your pointing out but its useless without the other staff as well....we'll just be excited for the outcome....still completing the staff would be our first motive... AFTER DECIDING WHAT POSITION WOULD YOU REALLY LIKE TO TAKE, PLS PM ME SO THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT POSITION WOULD YOU REALLY TAKING IN. DANGEL WOULD BE ON OUR SIDE TO HELP US OUT.
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-15 03:22:05 |
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um... for the story do you want full or just general summary
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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by justpassingby
on 2007-04-15 03:31:59
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| @ich i know it looks like a lot, but if people can do more than one position it should be fine. besides, some positions are one-time positions (like writing the plot and designing the characters). i'm not saying it's impossible to do it the way it's been done up till now, i just think it would be much more organized the way suggested. when i said people CAN take p more than one job, it basically meant they SHOULD, the reason being that there are simply too many of them for each job to have a different crew. every position i suggested either has a comparatively small task, or is a one-time position who has nothing to do once the manga is set in motion. it is very possible for a small group of people to do all of the jobs that involve drawing and for another small group of people to do all the jobs that involve writing. the person who writes the story might as well write the dialogue and perform story development. what i'm trying to say is that even though it seems like a lot it is actually very organized and much more simple if done correctly. |
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on 2007-04-15 09:39:41 |
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well looks like we're really serious about this, justpassingby XD
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-15 09:58:54 |
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when i get time im gonna go through this post, write down everybody's desired position and post it, so we have an idea of whats filled and what not. @ich justpassingby has a point, even though we reuse those ppl for a plot twist or new characters, it would probably be better idea if ppl had multiple jobs, that way nothing looks outta wack  
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Wow, this sounds interesting. When the actual manga is out, can everybody read it somewhere? ^^ ...And I could maybe (and just maybe) help a little bit at some things. I don't think I'm good enough to be the actual artist, and I'm not that good at writing stories, but maybe I could do some character designs (looks like everyone wants to be a character designer :D). But I'm not sure so I don't request any position yet. I'll take a look again after Ray has posted the already taken positions.  |
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on 2007-04-15 16:56:20 |
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@justpassingby ~hmmmmm.....ok then!^^ but some of the applicant rather chooose the storywiter rather than the MAJOR positions....but before we had decided to be on multiple positions, the applicant itself must possess the ability to do the job then the alternate right?
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Re: GENDOU'S MANGA TEAM DIVISION
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on 2007-04-15 18:50:44 |
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draconics-story plotting or editor without you-sketch layout design mitsukira- story writer imppy-character design yobo-main page design dragonfly-plot layout ryoko no baka-character design red- character design key-story writer smile-main page design roq- character design justpassingby-story writer/plot layout eureka-character design thats all. all r just requested, none r confirmed jobs
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