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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ROQ sees ya. on 2005-12-15 19:07:51
I guess that's up to your decisions and beliefs in life...


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-15 19:23:42 (edited 2005-12-15 19:34:49)
like my signature said previously...life is a prison, death is a reliese. Death to me is a reliese from suffering and that is why i treasure it. Death is hard for some people to cope with, but i do not have that problem. Rin, send the family my most humble condolences. please be careful yourslef...both you and Ranger.

gentle wind...i do not like to cause others pain...and i would never kill my parents because i love them very much. i think about suicide alot, though...but i live to protect and help people who need me...and if God wills it, i might just maybe find someone to love and cherrish....

i REALLY do not need presents, but thank you for the kind offer........but i know you guys and that will not deter you...if your REALLY want to send me something...my e-mail is
nightmare588@sbcglobal.net
e-mail me and i will give you my adress...and sachel, if you want a list of stuff that i want but will probibly never get, i can prep a list for you...just tell me how much you are willing to spend. (PLEASE do not make it alot of money, i do not want to sound or look greedy, especially when there are people that probibly need it alot more than i do...) actually, i would like it even more if you supprised me with what i got...because it would come from your heart, and not my cataloge

as for the "where will i go when i die" question... i believe that if i am a good person, i will go to heaven...then i wont be sad anymore and i will be able to help more people as an angle...or i could become one of those "Soul Reapers" from Bleach! now THATS a job! *winks ar ROQ*


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ROQ sees ya. on 2005-12-15 19:36:26
Hello nightmare! I very much understand your stance on death as a release from pain and suffering. Being an ethereal being, it does not seem likely that physical pain will be an issue. Take a moment, however, and consider those who go to hell. According to the bible, the vast majority of all people are hellbound, therefore, those that go to hell might have escaped from suffering on Earth to an eternity of suffering. For them, there is no victory. The best thing to do is to accomplish the difficult task of reaching heaven in order to truely escape the pain.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-15 19:40:24 (edited 2005-12-15 19:41:10)
I believe Earth is also a preperation for heaven and hell. You experience both good and bad things while on earth,the way you react and respond to those circumstances says something about your personality. Someone who sees only tragedy and turns towards evil to stop it,or turns to embracing tragedy might be considered bad while a person who experiences tragedy and finds a more peaceful solution or tries to help might be considered good. Those who see peace and try to destroy it are considered bad,those who bring it are considered good.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by alcoita on 2005-12-15 19:40:33
nice philosyphy but there is one flaw and that is what if there's no afterlife then what does that mean YOU WASTED YOUR LIFE FOR ETERNAL LIFE AND YOPUI WONT BE ABLE TO RESET IT OR ANYTHING ELSE THE FACT IS THA YOU MIGHT BE LOST MOREOVER TO YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT DEATH IS NOT THE ULTIMATE PACIFIER AS IT CAUSES HAVOC SUFFERING AND DISTRESS THE FACT IS YOU JUST HAVE TO COPE WITH LIFE AND NOURISH IT BECAUSE IF YOU DONT........WELL YOU'LL JUST MAKE EVERYONE AROUND YOU SUFFER AND IF YOU THINK THIS KEEEP IT TO YOURSELF OR SOMEONE WHO'S ENLIGHTENED TO CLARIFY MORE ALL OF THIS HATRED FOR LIFE IS WRONG BECAUSE IT'S THE SAFE HAVEN OF ALL THINGS SAINT(IF THERE IS AN AFTER LIFE (I KINDA BELIEVE THERE IS WHO KNOWS?)BY DAMMMING LIFE OR BELITTLELING IT INFRONT OF DEATH IS WRONG NOW DONT GET ME WRONG DEATH IS SOMETHING WE'LL ALL HAVE TO COPE WITH AS WE'RE NOT ETERNAL BUT NOT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COPE WITH IT IT DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO ENURISH IT IT MEANS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR ACTIONS BEFORE WE DIE AND LIVE LIFE TO FULLEST AFTER ALL WE MIGHT ONLY HAVE ONE AFTER ALL.....................................

"Theroad to stupid is paved by good intentions" Mandy

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-15 19:43:09
That's where religion comes in. You either believe that you go somewhere else,recarnate,just plain die etc. You don't really know unless you are involved with religion.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by alcoita on 2005-12-15 19:43:13
OH AND THAT WAS THE REPLY TOO UHMM WHO WAS IT EHRMM.........nightmare
yeash ^^

"Theroad to stupid is paved by good intentions" Mandy

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by alcoita on 2005-12-15 19:43:47
lol i am somewhat lol

"Theroad to stupid is paved by good intentions" Mandy

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-15 19:46:47 (edited 2005-12-15 19:51:16)
yes, i know, but i believe that if the bible was compleatly accurate on that issue, the entire human race would be doomed...so i see it this way, if you have a pure heart and a good soul and you try your best to do good in the world...you will reach Heaven. In my mind, if i went to hell, i could not stand it...i can barly stand suffering here on earth! If God is so merciful, i think that he would take pity on me...so that eventually...after a long and painful journy...i would finally reach my Blessed Mother...she would take me in her arms and i would weep like a sick child and she would tell me it is all right now...and it would finnaly be all right...Why sould a man suffer through his years on earth in pain and sadness and lonelyness...only to discover eternall pain and lonelyness on the other side. can you imagen how hard that would be for me to take in...a man who waited long years, suffered though pain and death and sadness, in hopes of one day feeling joy and love...and then discovering that it will never happen? that it will alwayse be the same?





forever?


sorry, i was typing that while you were all typing....

WHAT!??! i do NOT hate life quite the opposite, i have dedicated myself to PROTECTING life and helping others lives...i cherish life...but i also cherish death...just because i think that death is beautiful does NOT mean i hate life!


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-15 19:48:35
That is why you should not kill yourself, I don't think God put us on this earth to kill ourselves. Luckily I don't think you'll do that.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-15 19:53:20 (edited 2005-12-15 19:58:34)
you never know Kotuso...God's plan is hard to understand...maybe it IS my purpuse to commit suicide...but i dont think so....because i like helping people...and maybe all this suffering is for a reason...to make me appriciate the value of love and caring...maybe because God knows that the woman he has planned for me is caring and lovng and needs the same in return? or maybe i am learning so that i will be able to care and love my children properly. that is only speculation, though...i still dont know if i my dream of a caring wife will ever come true...


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Seculi Terminus on 2005-12-15 19:54:12
lol nightmare, I kinda get what you'r going through.

Although I just accepted the fact that although my parents might have wanted a child, generally speaking, they resented the guts out of me. There's been <.> this much love between us, historically.

So I made a decision! I decided that I would survive... it didn't matter what I had to do, who I had to kill, whatever! I was gonna live! HOHOHO

Sorry for the laughing stuff - just trying to lighten it up a bit. I really would have killed them if it woulda helped.

So I can understand you, but I can't I guess. All the crap just turned into greater determination for me.

Just stick in there. Sorry I'm not much help! T.T


That's my $0.02. Plus change.
AKA Home-Dog Ass-Masta' The G-Unit

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-15 19:58:48
That's exactly what i'm trying to say. Turn tragedy into triumph.

Good post,Seculi Terminus.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-15 20:10:41
i just realised how close it was till christmass...so ROQ and sachiel...i am sending you both e-mails via the adresses that you are using on gendou
s-a-c-h-i-e-l@mail.com for sachel and i have alrady contacted ROQ a number of times...i wont waist any time so goodnight!


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-15 22:29:54
Too many posts too quickly... X_X

Turning tragedy into triumph must be done if you're to live, just don't cause tragedy for others while you're triumphing.

Hey Nighty, if you dislike hurting others, then why do you hurt yourself?


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-12-16 04:41:44
About death, rather worry about getting into heaven or worring whether I will continue to exist or not; I will just live my life exactly the way I think I should live it. I won't be good just to get into heaven or out of fear of hell, just because I think I should. If I live my way and not worring about what comes after, then I will be prepared for anything.

Any about grades. Many people seem to care about grades, the thing is you should set yourself a goal if you care about grades so much. Unless you are trying to get to Stanford don't stress yourself by trying get strait As. I wasn't even trying to get into college and I was still accepted into many colleges. Set a goal before you attempt to get strait As. You might want a college that only requires Cs.

I agree with the suicide point, but instead of using Nightmare as an example I will use myself to be safe.

Some say it would be bad to kill myself, but if I were to, it might just affect people in a way to where my death would be meaningful. My parents might just realize by my death that they love me very much, and when the die also they would die loving me. If I were to live longer then them they might die without realizing they love me.

But then again if I kill myself to early, I might miss out on love. And that person that could of had my love would be lonely.

That is just an example of what could happen. I think suicide is as natural as any other death, maybe a little bit more organized and cleaner too.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-16 09:52:20
Alcoita wrote, "OH AND THAT WAS THE REPLY TOO UHMM WHO WAS IT EHRMM....".

May I ask why you're yelling?


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-16 09:55:04
Some say it would be bad to kill myself, but if I were to, it might just affect people in a way to where my death would be meaningful. My parents might just realize by my death that they love me very much, and when the die also they would die loving me. If I were to live longer then them they might die without realizing they love me.

But then again if I kill myself to early, I might miss out on love. And that person that could of had my love would be lonely.


you may realise that i just coppied what jomunga said...but he said it so well for me...that basically my beiw as well. except my suicide would be messy...very messy

why do i hurt myself? i think it has something to do with my exctreemly low self-esteem...in my mind, im worthless...

as for the grades...i just took my english exam and i think i did really well...if i do good on all of them...i might just have a christmass after all! but you are all assuring that i will...thank you so much. for just the thought, you each hold a special place in my heart.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by overlordsero on 2005-12-16 10:12:53 (edited 2005-12-16 12:58:46)
I know this is kinda late but.....
(this is for nightmare)

DO NOT KILL YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im serious.

I have tried to commit suicide before and of course it did not work.
I just kept thinking of the people in my life and how sad I would make them if I killed myself.
I used to have low-selfesteem too. I was always picked on, seemed like no matter what I did it was not good enough for my mom( I say mom because I grew up without a dad, there were step dads, but....I did get to see my dad sometimes but I just kinda never really cared.),
and I seemed to always screw up on everything.

And about the love issue, I just met a girl at my work and asked her to the movies. We have not gone yet, and she hasnt replied to a couple of my text messages I sent her. So im getting nervous, but I cant help it, I will just have to wait till I see her again.
She was the very FIRST girl I have asked out. I am so shy when it comes to girls, only when asking out. I also have not really been trying to find someone, it just kinda hit me.......hard. My plan was: to go to college, get a degree, get situated in life, then look for love. However, I only got to the goto college before she came into my life.
So dont give up!!!!! I am sure there is someone out there for you.

and PLZ do not KILL yourself!!!!!!!!!
I will be very veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery veryvery very sad if you do. ;_;

Light and Dark

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-16 11:21:19
...Hey ROQ, what's your email address? I have something I must share with you...

Nightmare, why do you think you're worthless?


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