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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Shiriu on 2005-12-11 13:49:57
Maia, you only need someone to talk to, someone that you can trust and tell about your feelings, someone to be close to you.
I think it's wrong for children and teenagers to be sent to the therapist at a very young age, and take medications (which is very wrong to take them, it seems the therapists only want to delay their patients treatments with drugs, so they get more money)... I have to say this, but the first problem must've been created by the ones close to you.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by desertranger on 2005-12-11 14:38:43
My only advise is whatch what meds you take. I've had a few that really screwed me up including one I only took for a few months but has had a very long term effect.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ROQ sees ya. on 2005-12-11 14:40:30 (edited 2005-12-11 14:41:00)
I lke to solve my own problems, so I don't usually like medications...Out of curiosity, though, what effect did they have on you, Ranger?


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-11 15:11:25
Therapy,madications,Drugs.......... can't we just handle depression on our own. Even though i've never been depressed i know what depression is. I've never been depressed because time i feel sad,a quick reconsdieration of my situation and understanding that its really not that bad, i feel very happy and sure of myself. Therapist can't help you with your problems.......only you can.



Deremination all the way!

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by desertranger on 2005-12-11 17:02:34 (edited 2005-12-11 17:07:31)
I know depression really well. Been a friend/enemy for a long time now. don't know how Rin puts up with it some times. Mine is a result of a lifetime of stress, personal risk and war. Add to that a very traumatic incidident about 15 years ago, which was really the turning point in our lives that eventually brought us here. More dropped on me working as a ranger with mostly guys like myself, retired military, on Sept 11. Can you imagine what we felt like. We were the guys who were opushed out of in Vietnam. All of that over 40 years or so has added up to severe PTSD and depression at times toss in ADD/HD which I've had all my life. 2 years before I became a ranger I was prescribed a drug called celexa. Instead of helping me in destroyed my life. I literally couldn't speak without stuttering severely, I could't make myself understood and I am an articulate person. A lot of other things to, anger, hostility frustration all because I couldn't speak. That started the major point of my depression and that's when I started to write. I spent 3 mo on the drug and over a year to get to a point where I could talk again. Another thing happened while on that drug something I still have a lot of guilt over and triggers depression sometims. I a fit of frustration and anger one day I hit Milady. she almost left me. She stayed. Now you see why I day I'm the lucky one because I've drfited towards suicide, Both Rin and the kids have found me staring at a gun and now Ky has the only combo to the gun and ammo boxes. no more loaded guns in the house either. I couldn't work for over a year. that's why I say watch what meds you take. It took years to find the right balance to keep me in control of my depression. If I miss even a day I can wind up with major problems for several days.

It happens to people, it's not funny and people who drop into deep depression need attention and care cause if I didn't have Lady Rin I wouldn't be here writing this now.

No one else would have stayed with me and that's why I am dependent on her. I am truly sorry I ever hit her and that was years ago. I don't think she has ever totally forgiven me for that. It is the lowest thing I have ever done.

I still have a lot of problems/. there are days I can't go to work. there are days I have to go and be Desert Ranger. sometimes life sucks.

Rin makes it bearable so I survive for her.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-11 18:41:20
yes ranger, i know how it is...even thoug you are CLEARLY alot older than me...i know what it feels like to feel so hopeless. i remember how it felt to hold that razor to my wrist. it is good that you have Rin and the kids to look after you...i dont have anyone to pull the knife out of my fingers...

WOW RIn! you get to see a movie! have fun!

yea Gentilwind...i agree with you there...but i also agree with rin...but if there are women that appriciate chivilry and courtly love...they are clearly not living aound here...i guess nice guys do finish last....*sigh*


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-11 18:55:10
Like i've said before, i've neve been depessed so can anyone explain it? or is it even explainable?

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-12-11 19:11:31
Let me just say I didn't join this thread because I am depressed. Depression to me isn't something that big, I get depressed frequently and get over it quick. I can usually sleep it off. I never had to post here about about being depressed, I just came to this thread on a whim, like I do most threads I enter.

Women killed chivilry?
I believe men killed it, most men don't give a damn about women as long as they can get sex from them, thus they try to make women as loose as possible. Men don't want chivilry, it would make it harder for them to get laid, therefore men try to suppress chivilry.

And talking about boys,boys,boys is terrible bleh. I think 14 is a good age to start thinking about love, because you also start maturing at that age. If you foresee love in you future, then you might give it some thought. But thinking boys,boys,boys is terrible, seeing as boys are all the same. Until you can see a boy as an unique person with a name and personality and not just a boy, don't bother thinking about them.

Screw meds, thats all I have to say.

A lot of Boys asked me to be their girlfriend but I dumped all of them (don't ask!)... and I mean all...

Good job!!!! Forget faceless boys, If you don't or barely know them, then dump them.

Its not boys you should think about, but rather love. See if you can find a person you can actually love in the big pile of boys.

More later, it's time to eat. Maia, if you have any more questions about that just ask, I didn't say all I wanted too. Otherwise start telling us more problems, 5% at a time please.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-11 21:06:28
A name, Kotuso. Thank you. Ranger wanted to answer your question on what depression is. I won't let him becasue I don't want him slipping into one. It is explainable and it has a lot to do with despair. The feeling of being alone, unloved, failure even thoough none of those are true. A lot more than I can say in a few words. There are different kinds of depression as well. Since you haven't told me how old you are I can't give you a reference to go look at since I don't know what your reading comprehension is. Why don't you try the Wikipedia first for a definition. I can tell you that from a clinical point of view it is easily definable. From a person point of view it's different.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by on 2005-12-11 21:23:16
depressioN iS a feeliN occurS wheN u starteD tO feeL tT u wanA dissappeaR oR vanisH froM thiS worlD(GenerallY)


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-12-11 21:46:26 (edited 2005-12-11 21:49:27)
When I am depressed I feel like this...

Somedays at a certain point something will get me to start being depressed. Usually its when I get a thought in my head that gets me angry or sad. I gets me started on way I hate the world, and why everything sucks. I think why must everyone go through this crappy shit that happens to them, why can some people be such assholes, why can't everyone be nice to each other. Why is the world filled with all this pointless crap. Then I start thinking it's all pointless anyways, we are all gonna die in the end so it doesn't matter what the hell happens in life. I then feel like I should just die because I hate living in this world where bad stuff happens to innocent people. Where people laugh at other's pain. I then start laughing myself, I laugh because everything sucks, life is shit, its all pointless crap. I continue this painful laughter, until I break out in rage. I try suppressing my screams and my entire body contracts until it hurts. After that is over I sigh and start my miserable laughs again. Then I think how I would like to destroy and kill others who make me feel like this. My bloodlust comes and I imagine torturing these assholes. I really desire to go out and kill these people, it becomes my primary desire. My thoughts continue lick this until I cool down. After thats over I feel like complete shit and can't do anything. That part is the part that I feel is the depression and not just the anger or the sadness. At this point I go to sleep, no matter the time of day.


That is what it is like when I get depressed. I hope you understand a little bit what it feels like. It doesn't feel good I can say that.

I've gotten into that many times. Especially thanks to the Berserk manga and Elfen Lied. After Elfen Lied I made sure to know exactly what I was in for before watching an anime. Even the slightest atrocity that I hear or see can make me depressed like that. I don't get like that over my own problems, but just when I see or remember something I really hate. Which is why practically all the anime I watch is love and peace anime, I can't handle anything else.

Like a while ago I posted on this thread when I kicked someguys ass for little or no reason, guess what I was feeling the night beforehand.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-12 07:14:46
All this talk about who killed chivalry... One answer, no one. All good things must come to an end... Change is inevitable... Eventually even Gendou will be dead... *shudders* That's one of my worst fears.

Nightmare, I've noticed something... recently you've been sounding a lot more cheery. I'm glad that you can be happier, or at least act happier. See right now, I'm very hungry, I've been awake since 6:30 (which is practically IMPOSSIBLE for me, since I'm usually asleep by 12:30am - 1:00am), and I'm listening to a sad song... But the trick is to pretend you're happy. Your brain might get confused into thinking it IS happy ^_^


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by overlordsero on 2005-12-12 07:48:51 (edited 2005-12-12 07:49:57)
I know this is kinda late, but.....
I feel offended jomunga.

"Men don't want chivilry, it would make it harder for them to get laid, therefore men try to suppress chivilry."

Im a guy and though Ive never gone out, well....sorta..kinda....not....I havnt gone out...but....
I just asked a girl out couple days ago....goto the "what is love" postings, I have one there (should be the latest one) that asks a question, I need awnsers! PLZ!

Anyway, I dont like violence or making ppl feel bad.
Unless you get me angry, but that takes alot to do and I dont stay mad long.

But then again its your opinion and I cant change that so...
I feel better ^_^

Light and Dark

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-12 07:57:50
I'm like you, Sero. I dislike hurting people, dislike purposely making people feel bad, is hard to get angry, and cools off after 10 minutes at most.

Hey Sero... I say get anyone a birthday present, as long as you know them a tiny bit. So, go for the glass roses or whatever you want.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by overlordsero on 2005-12-12 08:13:06
Tanx alot!!!
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(lol over doing it a bit?...NAW..lol)

Cool, Ive never been in a relationship before so I dont know what Im doing. Heck, I hardly ever know what Im doing! (lol ^_^)

Oh, and Tanx again...hehehehhe ^_^

side note: Gendou will live FOREVER!!! LONG LIVE GENDOU!!!!!

Light and Dark

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-12 14:45:04
yes jomunga, i also agree with you about men ruining it..lets just say that it was collective efforts of both parties?

really? you think i sound cheery? i dont really feel cheery...maybe ive just been too busy worring about school that i kinda forget about it...whatever.

Christmass seems to have lost its speciallness, maybe its because my parents keep yelling at me and i know im not getting much for christmass.....i dont really get it. it just seems so lonely.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Kotuso on 2005-12-12 14:49:35 (edited 2005-12-12 14:50:03)
There's nothing wrong with being alone................call it being independent.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ROQ sees ya. on 2005-12-12 16:52:51
Being alone can be fun on it's own...sometimes you just have to get away from everybody...

BTW, Christmas is really about religion, not presents or Santa. However, the meaning is lost, but who really minds it, due to the presents. Being with family is rather important, moreso than presents...
How the quantity of material gifts we recieve influences our demeanor at this time of year is kinda sad...but I can't complain..Free stuff rocks!

Merry Christmas in advance! ^-^


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-12-12 18:45:36
i call it being practically traped in my own home with no friends t talk to and no one to spend my christmass with.

i understand wholeheartedly about the Religious significance of Christmass...that part is actually more important to me than the presents alone...but spending time with my family is unplesent...all they do is yell, at each other and at me...and then they are alwayse complaining about how christmass is such a chore about putting up lights...what ever happened to christmass cheer? the love and togetherness that fammilies are supposed to share with each other?


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-12-12 18:50:21
I have Christmas cheer!
/cheer
S-a-c-h-i-e-l cheers Nightmare on!

Ketsuki's last post was on the 7th, and that's when he said he has to use the school's computers to get on and he'll post less often... It's been almost a week */sweat* Maybe his parents kicked him out early... */sweat /sweat*


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