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on 2005-12-07 21:01:20 (edited 2005-12-07 21:01:35)
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@ketsuki,you're gonna get kicked outta the house??did yer parents decide on this? |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-12-08 00:27:47
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That's unfair... You should find out why your parents are so psychotic ^_^; And you can use computers at the library, right...? I'm homeschooled, so I don't know what my GPA is. My mom said I could easily be 4.0, but I'll say I'm 3.6 ^_^  |
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oh God, Ketsuki...thats bad...if your ever in Michigan...ya, my parents wouldnent let me, but i dont care, you can have my room and ill sleep on the floor or something im dead serious anyway, i feel so stupid...i got a 70 and a 73 on tests today...i feel like beating myself cus im so STUPID!!! ugh, just one of those days... good luck ketsuki, if there is anything i can do, please let me know...i wouldent want one of my preciouse family members out on the streets...wait, where do you live again? was it new york, or new jersy? because i have a few friends in new jersy you could look into..  |
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by night_link
on 2005-12-08 14:52:54
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We're still here for you ketsuki! nightmare, we have our bad days on exams. The only thing left is to make sure it doesn't put you down too much. What class was it? |
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I'm really sorry to have to say this, but this entry has touched a really sensitive area. ‘The Depression Thread Continued’ is the topic of this entry, is it not? Please do not misuse words; it demotes its value. It's just like calling someone a retard (because they may have done something stupid), though they show no signs of mental or physical retardation. Depression is the feeling of helplessness... and careful when I say helplessness, because I mean defenselessness, vulnerability. There is no prevention for depression. Please correct me if I’m wrong, since I don’t have the time to read through around 450 entries, but what you are all experiencing is displeasure or perhaps learned helplessness. It is mentally set, and if you keep moping on petty problems it will become a reality for you. Perhaps some of you are thinking, "What is wrong with this person? I am seriously going through some terrible problems. Have heart." But seriously... What are problems really? If you compare dealing with a dying relative to not getting on honour roll, which do think would consist of being a problem? It’s not the end of the world! Stop being a sub-urban brat and get into the real world. Back to my point: please do not use words so lightly. Describing 'Oh no! Bad test!' doesn’t consist of depression. I should know, since I’m suffering from Manic Depression also known as Bi-Polarism.
~Urchin
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by night_link
on 2005-12-08 16:49:28 (edited 2005-12-08 16:52:11)
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Thank you for your comment Urchin. Your comment is very much appreciated. I also understand some part about Bi-Polarism having known someone with it. But to save you the sake of having to read the whole depression thread continued and its thread before, bad test is just something that someone told us about their day. The people here at this thread get to know each other more and more each day. Now it's not just about posting your problems here but also telling how you are sometimes. I believe it's just as helpful because you communicate with people still. |
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well Urchin, you make a valed argument, but before you judge us too harshly, i really do think you shopuld read the whole thing...i know it takes awhile, but its worth it..i just madse a comment about my day, thats all...we make comments about our days all the time, it helps to lighten the mood. if we didn't make randome comments, this thread would be alot more depressing to read than we are...trust me, depression is not JUST for the medical condition...sometimes people come here when they are just feeling down or having family troubles...and we are alwayse more than happy to help! and Kai, the 70 was in english and the 73 was in math |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-12-09 10:45:23
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Good points, all of you. Urchin, I agree with your points, although it was just a telling of someone's day. I think that everyone here, or at least a few of them, are truely depressed, and we are working to fix it. |
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I don't mean to sound negative, but although we mean well, do we really have any qualification to be helping people with their depression problems? I mean, it's safe to say that some of us are enduring the same problems we are working to rectify; it's like the blind leading the blind... There's no real right answer, just speculation and advice to how the problem might be solved, without any proof at all that it would work... Overall though, I think everyone here is truly doing their best, and for that I applaude all of you! You are true friends! All I'm saying is that this advice is assumed advice alone, to be taken with an ounce of doubt. In short, remember that no matter how bad or miserable your life maybe, someone out there has it worse than you... |
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We are qualified only in that we help each other. We are here for eath other. There are times when some have logged in and you can find 20-30 posts in a very short time as they talk about a problem. A simple cpmplaint like grades or the death of a loved one, we are here. Ranger and I have been in therapy for years. We can only go once a week. Gendou is here all the time and everyone here provides support.  |
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Though some of you make some valid points, my main argument remains untouched. I'm not disputing that some of you are sad and that this is a really friendly helping board for those who have simple problems. I'm just correct you on the misusage of the word 'depression'. Depression is a state of being. It's not something you could use as a synonym for sadness. Depression is a big problem, not medical but psychological. Though medicine is most of the time used to mask and treat the symptoms of depression. From what I've read, most of you do not seem depressed. For one, you wouldn’t be posting up your problems on the Internet. It's too hard to explain unless you go through it yourself. But it’s a scary event to go through, and it's equally terrifying for those around you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but keep in mind that I'm saying this from experience and the point of view of someone who has on and off manic highs and lows and I'm still considered a young adolescent. Just a word of advice for nightmare, I'm sorry that I judge way too harshly and I've been told several times. However, I'm a very down to earth person at times and let me just say that society will always judge a person upon first impression. Have you ever heard the saying that your first impression is your last? What do you categorize yourself as? The rocker? The preppy kid? The druggie? The spoiled brat? And don't you dare reply, "Everyone is unique. I’m my own person and I’m special." If you’ve ever heard that saying that 'every individual is different and they’re special in their own way'’ it is perhaps the worst bit of advice anyone could ever give. Simply breathing does not make one special. You have to earn it. The way you display yourself is how you want others to view you, so make a good lasting impression.
~Urchin
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on 2005-12-10 05:33:08 (edited 2005-12-10 05:35:43)
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If your concern is about the maturity of the people here or the fact that we are not always talking about clinical depression in it's various forms that's all right. You don't talk about your depression in therapy all the time either. It could be like it was yesterday. Talk a little about anxiety and fears, that Nancy (therapist) has on a nice outfit, it is christmas and tourist season neither of which either of us like, all kinds of things. It may take 40 of your 50 minutes to finally get to a point where you are actually talking about something that bothers you today. I have lived with depression, PTSD and everthing that goes with it for 12 years. Throw in a healthy dose of ADD/HD and I have a husband that can be anything from the greatest person in the world to sucidal. Do you think I wait for Fridays sesion with Nancy to deal with it? No, I put him here which is better than a crisis line because we know people here. Urchin wrote, ...And don't you dare reply, "Everyone is unique. I’m my own person and I’m special." If you’ve ever heard that saying that 'every individual is different and they’re special in their own way'’ it is perhaps the worst bit of advice anyone could ever give. Simply breathing does not make one special. You have to earn it. The way you display yourself is how you want others to view you, so make a good lasting impression. Everyone is unique, Are there more than one of you? If there is then you aren't unique. Your not supposd to consider yourself special, that's something for other people to do. Ranger calls me special so I am. He calls me his little girl, so I am. I am unique; there is only one Lady Rin in the world, and I'm her. I am well educated, I have a pilots license and can sail a boat. I can cook and make fruit pies from scratch. Yes, others do those things, maybe even some who can do all of them, I'm sure there are. They may even look like me only none of them are me. You do not have to have clinical depression of any type to be depressed, I have learned that. At when a person is feeling that way I've found it's best not to say otherwise but to help them. After all they are your friends right? and you do help your friends right? |
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well, it looks like Rin beat me once again...i was going to say exactly that about the uniqueness thing...but then you got it first...oh well, you said it very well...we all have our unique abilitys...some abilities arent unique...alot of people have a pilot's liscence, alot of people play Warhammer...but its not just the piolot that makes Rin Rin...its not just my srtatigy skills that makes me me..its a combibation of all of our skills that makes us unique people. sure, there are some poeple who act simillar, but the alwayse have things that make them different. we here all have our things we must deal with...thats life. Rin, as she stated, has her Ranger to take care of. Ketsuki has her parents. I have my own things that i must deal with. You see, "depressions" IS more than just a psycological condition...its a horrible feeling. i have lived with it for about a year now. i see your point, though, if your sad for some reason, you are saying that its not depression, right? well i see depression differently, i see it as a deep hurt inside your heart...a wound that could take hours or years to heal. i originally created this thread to help myself mend that wound...but then the thread transformed into a place where people can come to get THEIR hurts looked at and treated. then they help other people with their hearts and so on. Like rin said, here we can help better because we KNOW each other. I would trust my life with anyone here...and in as certen way, i do. as for your inquiry, i would classify myself as what i am, a Goth...not in apperence, but in mindset. You say you speak from experience, and i do not doubt that...but so do i. trust me on this one. yes depression CAN come and go. in fact, the only reason why i have not been "diagnosed" with depression is because i feel that drugs like anti-depressents are a cheep way out...and i believe that this thread is more help than a psyciatrist ever could be. most psyciatirsts speek form books...while WE speek from experience, we support each other in a way that a weekly seceion cound never do. now technically, due to the Gendou website, it is impossible to read the ENTIRE thread from the beginning, and i myself do not keep a running record of it...if you did, i think that you would enderstand what myself and Rin say. |
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by S-a-c-h-i-e-l
on 2005-12-10 10:46:21
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To be honest, I'm not sure what depression really is. I think I have a good idea of it, and it looks like I'm mostly right, but I can never say for sure I have had depression, you do, she does, and he does. And ROQ, sometimes we are blind, but for a moment we have perfect vision, so for that brief moment everyone is on the right track. But then, everyone is blind again, so we lose are way. We have to wait for someone with site to lead us, because since we are blind, we cannot tell which way is the right way. |
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That's a good point S-a-c-h-i-e-l, but what moment grants us true sight? If even for a moment we were granted true sight, would we not be able to find a solution to our own problems? And who, praytell, shall we wait for to lead us? That leads back to my point, nobody knows the right way. Therefore, if nobody knows the right way, how can anyone lead us? Wouldn't the leader be blind to the right way too? |
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well anyone can lead us, in my oppinion, it will probibly be our wives and husbands. thats who i think...let me ask someone who might know...*looks ar Rin and Ranger inquiringly* p.s. like my new signature? i figured id actually put up a few pictures of my beloved creature....plus the quote is from a Magic card for Nightmare... |
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Hey Nightmare, I love the new avatar and sig! Very cool! Looks like the eye from Nightmare's sword in Soul Calibur(is it?). Oh well, I suppose no matter what, until someone better comes along, the blind must lead the blind... Humans are such flawed creatures, I suppose it's only fair for us to govern ourselves, there seems nothing more we can do... |
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yea, thanks ROQ...no iots not nightmares sword from SC2. and sorry for the ourbirst but.. THATS RANGER?!?!?!?!?!?! wow, i really dont want to mess with that guy, rin...your lucky. i like your picture of Li kissing Sakura as well. and if your friends are as good an artest as they look...your really beautiful (what makes this funny is that everyone will be like "what is he talking about? where can i see ranger?" dont worry, i wont tell anyone about it...*laughs meniacly*...if you wish, i can tell you how i found it...) |
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You found picture of Ranger? Where? You also saw Li kissing Sakura, that means you found "Body and Soul" That was a Valentines day gift from Ranger. How did find that? What? More? Pictures of me? I don't have any photos online only drawings by friends and myself. Where are you finding all this? :shock: :surprize: |