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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by GeicoGecko on 2005-10-18 20:05:36
Death does not always bring suffering, some cultures celebrate death, and think of it as a passageway to a higher realm and greater happiness. Pain and suffering are caused by humans and their own intelligence, as i'm sure everyone's already noticed, 99.99% of the pain and suffering are caused by human.

People are not born equal, the statement that everyone is equal is complete bullcrap, but you learn to deal with it. Someone else has it harder than you do, so you should cheer up at the thought of that, because we find comical relief in others' misfortunes, another example how we can cause others pain. So suck it up, don't bitch and whine, if you think you have it hard, think of those who have it harder.



I'll eat you.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Shiriu on 2005-10-19 01:49:23
That's true, there are people who never knew hapiness, and all people do here is bitch about their depression. Think of the ones that are dieing without food, poor, and never found hapiness.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by xenphRAGEum on 2005-10-19 04:49:34
Depression is brouht upon to people by a series of complication i.e. Sadness,failure,feeblement, and things along those lines. Those with real depression are those people who has experiencea multitude of the aforementioned. Depressed people need to be left alone so they can contemplate their situations and what should they do.

SO LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

Anyways, people with depression can't usually talk about it. They... just clam up and withdraw within themselves. It's very sad if you see a depressed person, and you'll pity one.]

SO PITY ME!!!

Ahh.. sadness is one of the few pleasures in life I appreciate. I treat it as my best Friend. So I'm not just sad, but happily sad with sadness.

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Nasci Misrum, Vivere Poena, Angustia mori

It is a misery to be born, A pain to live, and a trouble to Die.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-19 12:16:46
first off, i never said that pain comes from death...they are 2 seperat things...you can feel pain without dying and you can die without feeling pain.

ranger: good, Rin likes it when you are home, but you already knew that.

sachel: i have to disagree with you. Happyness (and fun) are illusions created by the human mind to protect itself from the horrors of the world. if the mind did not have happyness, it would go insain almost instantly.

GeicoGecko: um...maybe you were not listening, i do NOT think that death is suffering! look at my signature for God sakes! for me, death is a reliese form suffering and maybe you did not know this, but the goths ARE one of those cultures that celebrate death!!!!!
and to be perfictally honist, i would not mind being one of those starving poor people...sure it would suck, and i do think about them, i pray for them.

Shiriu: never found happyness? *rases hand*

ok, now for my story...ill keep it short...you know what? on second though, forget it...


by the way, where is everyone else? like young Kia, old crow, goth and the others?


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by night_link on 2005-10-19 14:37:54 (edited 2005-10-19 14:39:00)
Sorry nightmare, I'm trying to do my best visiting the threads I always do like the "u draw anime?" and this thread. I'm still reading this thread, even though I don't have as many posts as I would like. Not to mention, I was afraid you would look up "Old Man Kai" and not find anything when I changed the name.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-10-19 15:34:51
The poor, hungry, dieing people arent the most depressed people on earth. It depends on the person on how much they are depressed. Id would say its the people who are dumped or have a loved one die are the most depressed. Or the people who were happy and lost it all. The poor bum my be content with his life depending on how he looks at life.

I myself have gotten over depression. Sure im not gonna find anyone, and my life is pointless, but I dont care any more. I will just watch anime until my death. I will just do what I enjoy in life, and hope that death is as good as im hoping.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-10-19 18:51:50
Nightmare: Don't worry, I'm here. I'm kind of lurking in the background...

And I'd have to disagree with you that happiness and fun are completely illusionary: if one emotional state is illusionary, doesn't that mean that all of them are? And if all emotions are illusionary, isn't that the same as saying that all of them are equally valid (or invalid)?

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ketsuki on 2005-10-19 19:04:38
with all the things i have, i am still depressed, but that is because i am not strong enough to create happyness of my own. some people who are poor and hungry are some of the happiest persons cuz they are strong (i dont mean being a bum, i mean those people who are some countries where they live in the landfills, using someone elses trash to survive) they have hope, faith and the will to keep going. i lost hope, lost faith, lost almost everything, the only thing that keeps me going is the pain and suffering i feel by being alive. the torture to know that no matter what i do, or who i become, in the end i will always be alone.


young kai: at firts i thought you were to different person, but then i realized you were the same person. *hist self* stupid me.

nightmare: whats your story? and i agree 100% with you. death and pain are two completely different things.

ranger: i bet you made lady rin really happy by staying home.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-19 20:07:40
Well, you see nightmare, when I said that sadness covered up death, I was hoping that it would get you undepressed :P

But still, if someone spends his life with his friends having fun, he won't be depressed; which shows that happiness is dominant in his life. It depends entirely on the person which is dominant: sadness or happiness.

Ketsuki, you are NOT alone, you have everyone on this thread that cares about you.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jester on 2005-10-20 02:14:01
the level of their thyroil hormones must be very low. see your doctors.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-20 11:13:19
Well, Sakura, this IS the depression thread...


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by GeicoGecko on 2005-10-20 11:34:34
i don't get the point of using a device, which is supposed to enhance your life, to bring yourself down even more.

But, I'm depressed today, as you can see, starting off with bad grammer by using "but" for the beginning of a sentence, and probably countless spelling errors. The reason for my depression is that I'm lending my PS:Two to my friend, so I'm pissed now.


I'll eat you.

Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-20 18:22:55
well...ok here is my story...if you do not want to read it, skip it

ok two days ago, i wanted to got to the store to buy eye liner and black finger nail polish.(with all souls day so close, i have been usinf alot latly.) so my parents would not let me (naturally) when i said i would walk, they thretend to call the police and have me thrown in jail. when i tried to explain to them (i did NOT yell, but they did) how they really need to loosen there grip on my life a little...they cut the power to my computer room and took away the money they owed me...they clamed that everyone i talk to is a bad influence on me and even whent so far as to consider pulling me out of CC and puting me in a different High school...ALL IN 30 MINUTS!! they quicly droped that idea but still....

anyway, for thowes of you who do not know me that well...i had a sever depression spell...i mean a BAD one...i cried for 2 hours, the worst part is, my parents didn't care...they never seem to care..i mean seriously, the last time i was huged was when i whent over to Alyssa's house last...a mounth ago...(refer to the earlyer thread for who Alyssa is) anyway, my thoughts started to go from depressed to suicidal...throught my teary eyes i found my razor boxcutter...i picked it up, put it down, picked it up again...then, as i felt worst, i opend it and blindly slashed at my left wrist...by the grace of GOD i missed the main vein by 1/32 of an inch...if i would have hit that, i would have been in bad shape...like dead or dying...but i didn't...i think God pulled my hand away, i really do. it really did not hurt that much...but it bled some...and, well, some of you know how i get when i see blood *dreamy sigh* so, after staring at it for 15 minutes, the phone rang...and guess who it was? Alyssa...yep the same girl that talked me out of killing myself the first time. she wanted to know about the upcoming CC dance (ill tell you about that later, if you want) but she immidiatly recognised my tone and helped calm me down...she is such a nice girl.

so, anyway, you can still see the cut on my wrist, it is healing nicly...i really hope it leaves a scar, that way i can alwayse be reminded of how stupid it is to slit your wrist...but i think i am fine now...for now.

thats my story, sorry for the length...and i am glad everyone else is back!


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-20 19:27:25
T.T
I feel even worse for Nightmare... I want his parents to loosen up a little bit.. or a lot :P


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-10-20 19:59:50
Nightmare do your parents know you r suicidal? Why dont just show them how suicidal you are. Tell them if they dont loosen up, you will loose it. And if they yell, yell back louder. Being calm is good but unless you show them how pissed and frusterated you are they wont get the point. Whatever you do if it aint working try a different approach.

I think the reason your parents are so forceful is because you let them win like that. It natural to rebel with forceful parents. If you rebel and they see that thier method doesnt work anymore they may try different approaches such as barganing, negotiating, rewarding good behavior, and pleading.

My parents where forceful, and after enough rebeling they reward good behavior.

The point is rebel, dont listen to them until they lower their voice.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by ketsuki on 2005-10-20 20:55:46
firts of all. nightmare, i am glad that you didnt cut the main vein, and it does hurt if you dont do it right. (i know by experience(sp)) im also very happy for you, you have your own angel, Alyssa. and you also have us here. and about your parents, there isnt much you can do. i dont think rebeling is such a good idea, it got me kicked out once. it was only cuz they were worried about what society might say about them, about the way they raide me, that they let me back in. i just let thing go by, my mom would never allow me to wear eye liner or black finger polish, as much as i want to, but if i do i know it would be hell if i stayed and if i left i have no where to go. my real friends are online. and friend i have in the real world could care less of what happens to me, or what i go through. my point is, if you dont have somewhere to turn to, is best to just let things go by.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by xenphRAGEum on 2005-10-20 21:42:46
It's a good thing you did not hit the vein.
God always has ways.
Your parents are too thick to take care of you.are not alone. You have an angel. That's good.

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Nasci Misrum, Vivere Poena, Angustia mori

It is a misery to be born, A pain to live, and a trouble to Die.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-10-21 10:54:47
I'm very glad you didn't hit the vein! That would have been a disaster.

I agree with jomunga that just letting them win all the time might not be the best thing to do...if it's something harmless like walking to the store, you could try and insist that you go. If you can win on the small things like that that they really have no real reason to prevent you from doing then you might eventually be able to start challenging them on the things that really matter.
But I don't think that showing them that you are suicidal is a good idea. I think that they would use that as an excuse to become even more smothering and would probably force you to attend some sort of therapy (at the very least).

On a slightly happier note, I found a poem that I really like and I'd like to share it with everybody. Here goes:

Ozymandias

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

-Percy Bysshe Shelley
1792-1822

I'm even using the last six lines as my sig on a few other forums.

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Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by nightmare on 2005-10-21 12:40:14
well, thank you all for your support and i am glad you all understand.

jomunga: oh yes, i told them that i wanted to kill myself, but they think i am joking..they absolutly refuse to believe that i am like that...they still believe that i am scared of them, that they can overpower me. they do not realise that whenever they punsihs me, it just makes me more depressed.

i do NOT let them win, they usually refuse to compitently argue, they just say no, then yell no, then yell no louder...exc. they quite simply cannot listen to reason! which makes it hard to talk with them. my parents main problem is that thewy are siverly overprotective. and they are not very intellegent.

Alyssa as my angle, huh? i never really thought of it that way. i have alwaysed thought of her as my sister. because i love her very much...interesting.


Re: The Depression Thread Continued
Link | by S-a-c-h-i-e-l on 2005-10-21 14:03:57
Maybe you should show your parents this thread here, and show them that like 10 people all agree with you, and if they need to, post their reasons as to your smothering.


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