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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-15 21:31:39 |
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we all know that our life is very special... God gave us our life to go through hardships happiness so we must treasure our precious life |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-16 16:51:20 |
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suiciding is like throwing away your life. not something good to do |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-16 17:24:54 |
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Suciders are losers. Reasons: They just run away from problems They just shamed all of the others who were probably in the same situation and managed to deal with their problems They don't care about anyone but themselves (even if they do it for another person, if you look at it deeply, it's selfish) They voided their life insurance (I find this funny as my friend mentioned this) They just wasted their parent's efforts .... and the list keeps going on anybody wanna help continue it?  |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-17 16:02:50 (edited 2007-09-17 16:08:21)
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They are not losers. What if they don't have any other options? I'm in a horriable situation right now. I'm not gonna kill myslef but I don't fell shamed by others in my situation cuz I understand how they feel. What if they truly have no one but themsevles? Not everyone has life insurance. I don't. It costs too much. It's not like it's free. What makes you think all parents love their childern equally? What if they got rid of them to a foster home? Just because they took their own life doesn't give you the right to demean them. Everyone seems to think that life is so easy to live and nothing can be bad enough to kill yourslef. Well trust me, life sucks and sometimes it crushes you. I.e. You can be homeless, diease filled, and hungry. Or you can take control of at least one thing in your life and decide to end it.  
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-17 17:23:09 |
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Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but I've been through it, and I have the slits to prove it. It took two people to get me to snap out of it. I know the feeling and yes I understand how it feels but seriously. Then I have to help others get out of their problems. I actually had to come face to face with a gun barrel b/t my eyes because a person was near breaking down. One more thing, my list isn't perfect. Those some general reason's I have. I agree that parents don't love their children equally. I agree maybe that person doesn't have anyone else. I agree some people may not have options, but you know, most of the times it is the person that is thinking life is like that. We all have to deal with it at some point and move on. What if there's no options? Haha, there's no options because you think there's none. This is where humans are higher than animals. We actually have the ability to create our own options because we can reason with things. If there's only option A, I'll make a option B. Nobody's life is a waste. That is something they need to get through their heads as I did. The reason why people feel that way is because they make the situation worse than it really is. It not easy to get out of it, but one is never going to enjoy life if he/she keeps suppressing themselves. You will only have one chance to live. Why not try to make it better? If you need help dark-stranger-chan, I'll be more than happy to listen and help. The last thing I want to see is another person I know try to suicide. No one is alone in this world. There's always someone out there who will be willing to help. Even in this day and age of technology. SkyL |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-09-18 01:51:06 |
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@SkyL- that outlook is so.....annoying, it makes me want to vomit. Just because people choose to live their lives in a manner different than what you chose in the end, that being deciding to end it, doesn't mean that it is worthless or that they are "losers", that kind of thinking is just something beaten into people's minds by society and is remarkably un-empathetic for someone who has been in such a position i think. And as for saying options always exist, yes they do, but, you really fail to see the psychology involved here, reality is perception as the old adage goes, so people sometimes become unable to see any other options, and they then might as well not exist at all. YOu are looking at this from an overly emotionalistic standpoint, think about it like this, in economics, much of deciding what to do for your company has to do with evaluating Marginal Benefits and Marginal Costs, and naturally, you will generally not want to make a decision in which your MC exceeds the MB, that would be an unprofitably venture, and you therefore would fail and be driven out of business. Applying that same train of logic to the issue at hand, these people simply see in the long run, the MC of living exceeds the MB, and are therefore making the wisest decision they can at the time, presumably, cutting their costs. and i think what you folks who decry suicide as being an invalid option fail to see the fact that IT DOES solve all of your problems, even if the government tells you it doesn't, if you're dead, nothing's gonna be bothering you at all, ever again, and to some people, eternal nothingness is much more appealing than a life in misery And just because their solution is outside that of the societal norm does not make it less valuable than your own, more conventional methods  |
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You did nothing wrong. Life definitely is better than suicide. Eeveryone has a reason to be here and none of the reason is to commit suicide. Even cancer patients with limited time still make the best of their lives. You are a good friend trying to bring him back to his senses. If his facing a hard time, just tell him this -even through the darkess nights, morning always comes- |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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by Taleniekov
on 2007-11-20 20:58:28
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I'm fine with suicide. Anyone dumb enough to do it is dumb enough to die. If their life is abject misery, death may do them good. Usually, it's a bluff or a wail for attention, and said whiner should be left alone. A child doesn't learn caution 'till he breaks his fingers with a hammer anyway.
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-04 00:33:29 |
we all have free will. a child can grow up in the most miserable environment you can think of but still can be humane.   |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-04 00:40:48 |
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indeed....everyone should be able to decide what to do themselves...its their lives....unless they are tied with this life by a child they have(below 18) and a wife.....killing yourself then is wrong....cause you leave a child behind who wont most likely be able to stand up on its own....not to mention a wife too....but if you dont have a wife....and children....then i see no problem with them commiting suicide....i will try to stop the person but if he/she asks me not to interfere i wont...only because its THEIR life and they should be able to do what they want.... And those people arent losers What if they dont have that many probs? Maybe they are just tired of living....maybe its boring.....dont you all want something new sometimes? Maybe thats what some of them are trying to do out there....to get to a new place.... I know it sounds lame...but hey this is what i think.... 
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-04 05:48:12 |
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It's your life, it's your choice. But for moral reasons, please think about other issues in a 3rd person view. Maybe it'll bring some enlightenment. |
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a sane mind would agree that suicide is only for losers...and i've been a loser before, it was when i considered taking my own life. i was too immature, thru my squinted eyes the problems seemed insolvable... but i wasn't brave enough for such a stupid act, it came to my mind that if i was strong enough to die then i should be stronger to live... suicide is never an option_it's a dead end!
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-05 21:57:53 |
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well suicide happens a lot in Japan, mostly because the live here in japan is mostly unbearable, too many stressful things happen to your live every single day but those who can bear it decide to continue on living life is precious for me  |
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on 2007-12-05 23:11:29 |
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@kaoru yes, many suicide happens in japan like kamikaze since WWII i think. Kamikaze 
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-05 23:52:27 (edited 2007-12-05 23:55:53)
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as far as I know Kamikaze is a way of Japanese soldiers in WWII in which they fill their fighter planes with explosives and they plunge their planes straight to the enemy's battleship. although its called suicide, it is one of the tactics that the japanese army had used. about suicide in Japan, I think it really happens a lot in Japan. some people even make plans and meeting arrangements to do a group suicide or something like that...(dunno what the exact term)  |
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Anybody here know the story of how Socrates died? Well, according to Plato, when Socrates was convicted and sentenced to death by hemlock, his students attempted to set him free. They first tried to buy his freedom by bribing the authorities. When Socrates refused, they tried to get him to commit suicide, to escape the fury of the mob. Socrates then said something which is even today my favorite quote. He said (i'm paraphrasing here) that man is a prisoner (or one of God's flock, according to which version u hear), and that he has no right to escape (the prison of life). It's true,isn't it? Life comes from God, and we have no right to refuse it, to fling his gift back into his face. Thats what i think. p.s. japanese group suicides are called shinju or joshi, which is written with the same kanji. It was very popular among the samurai.  --> |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-07 07:12:18 |
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well japanese thinks it's not a suicide actually, they think it as a sacrifice for something, sacrificing and suicide is two different things |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-07 14:16:23 (edited 2007-12-07 14:22:23)
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I totally agree w/ anime angel. We're all given a life to make something of it. @skyl: That is a good comment/speech i've ever read to try and help someone. I applaud you. 
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2007-12-08 06:03:12 |
Wow, from what I've read of this thread, this is a very touchy subject. I think that even when life is kind of rough, a lot of people think that suicide is the best possible answer than just running away. If you tried to run away, your problems would follow you everywhere. But none of those things are solutions to anyones problems. Dying because you have problems that, to you, seem "life ending", means that in the process, you're hurting the people who could've helped make it better. It does hurt sometimes, this life, but there's always something we must look forward to, that little light at the end, so we shouldn't turn away by commiting suicide. I think that, even when life's hard, we just need to stick it out, tomorrow might be better, we never know. Let us sit back and enjoy life the way it is, through the bad and through the good. In the end, it'll taste sweeter.  |
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Re: Life vs Suicide
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on 2008-06-02 17:54:00 |
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somebody said to me, the most lucky one is the one who was never born. i half agree about his opinion. because perhaps i see this life is just from the bright side, but whats wrong about it? well because i'm a selfish man i will say proudly : i choose life and will never think of suicide. this life is a warzone, if you want to suicide(and your death dont give anything to world) then you are a coward!!(perhaps someone that want to suicide will dont mind even if call them a coward of lifetime) 
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