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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-07 14:14:01
Really, that's weird on your part cause it works normally for me. Anyways just search "Naruto manga-Plot Twist?".

He was also fighting with Hyori, who also gets pwned by Aizen, thus forcing Shinji to step in.

Aizen's gotten all this attention o fbeing the strongest character in Bleach.
I'd be pissed off if they extended in, but in my gut something like that's going to happen,
cause the creator said he'd add more content in from the movies and other places, too,
though I'm not sure if they're going to be significant or not, Ichigo vs. Aizen will happen,
then again Aizen and Gin alone already seems like a crazy tag-team.
And Gin is wayyyyy stronger than Tousen, even without a mask, and its obvious he has one, too.

There's also the other battle with Yammy, and that's been dragging on a bit now.
I do however see Bleach ending pretty soon, possibly this year, manga wise, then again maybe not, who knows.
I don't know any other anime with this many episodes which ended because the manga ended.
Usually with anime, hell the 98% of it, the anime will finish early leaving content from the manga out or the manga is short to begin with.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-07 15:43:37
If the manga ends with aizen and no newcomer of evil comes up then ill be happy because im loving how kubo is directing this (which more than what i can say for kishimoto atm) because his pacing is great. i mean how many people thought back to the pendulum was gonna be good? when i saw a flashback i was like CMOOOOON then when i read it, it was very intriguing. then when ichigo defeated ulquirroia (sp?) it was believable. in my honest opinion i thought he was gonna come out with something higher than bankai but i still dont count that out. theres so many thing i can name the kubo is doing right but it would look like an essay XDD. im loving bleach and its a number 2 on my list behind fma. i forgot her name but the mangaka for fma is a pure genius. not one chapter of fma has been dull.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-07 15:59:59
I guess I'm the only one who believes the Naruto series is overcoming the Bleach series in both categories.
Naruto has so much content to handle, when you focus on one thing, it takes more than a chapter to fully unveil.
Then when you transfer to something else, that'll take the same amount of time roughly as well.
I'll keep my comments short until someone bumps the other thread. Then we can get a real discussion going again.

More on the manga, I hated how Ichigo beat 'Ulquiorra'. First off he died, then was revived in a second.
His fully hollow form which he couldn't control beat Ulquiorra, not Ichigo.
And not only that, Ulquiorra almost had his full hollow form beat as well,
but for some reason, they decided Ulquiorra's not going to defeat Ichigo so he'll just randomly disappear into the wind....

I thought the Pendulum arc was pretty okay, better than some of the other arcs.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-08 15:40:07
i can live with the predictableness of any manga (except fma, the mangaka is just a genius so its unpredictable). theres gonna be those times where you know whats going to happen but i find it interesting how they do it. i mean like who predicted what ichigo had a secondary hollow form? i didnt. we knew hes gonna beat ulquirroa but noone knew how because he was trying so hard with his mask + bankai. my theory was that he was gonna go into his inner world connect with zangetsu and find a level beyond bankai but that didnt happen. i also like how kubo stays true to his characters like when zaraki was fighting noitora. everyone thought he was gonna all of a sudden hear his sword and release his shikai but kubo stayed true and added an unique way of killing noitora without taking away from zaraki's character.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-08 18:10:53 (edited 2010-01-08 18:11:37)
Yeah, but let's not bring FMA into this, that's a whole different level of awesomeness. :P

I know certain moments are indeed predictable, that's typical of these types of shonen action-adventure anime. It's almost a given.
His fully hollow form was already revealed way earlier in the Arrancar arc. Maybe some people forgot.

The result of fights with Ichigo are obvious that Ichigo has to win.
This isn't the type of anime where the main heroin will either gamble life or die fooishly. He'll win no matter what.
The first Grimmjow meeting with Ichigo, he got beat pretty badly. Luckily he managed to survive because Grimmjow retreated.

Yeah Ichigo fought for his life against Ulquiorra, because he literally died fighting him.
There's no way his inner hollow will allow that, since he needs Ichigo to survive.
I wished he would've learned a new move by fighting Ulquiorra, but still he only knows Getsuga Tenshou.

I never thought he was going to awaken his shikai, at least I don't remember.
That fight was so boring, it dragged on episode after episode after episode.
I'm a huge Kenpachi fan personally, but wow kendo to end the fight was like digging into the root of his character.
It was taking away from the nasty-reckless-fear-nothing character Kenpachi built, but in a good way.

Kenpachi's the only one who can fight the way he does, no moves, pretty much all out power and unobtainable reiatsu.

It's hard to discuss it with technical terms since it's one of those anime really meant for a more mainstream crowd compared to a more technical crowd.

But seriously, there's no way Ichigo can touch Aizen...

Moving onto something else, what the heck, no new chapter yet. D:

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2010-01-09 12:57:46
Yeah, I think WSJ took two weeks off for holidays, because they were off last
week and onemanga says it's holidays again for WSJ so no manga from that magazine.

As far as being predictable, yeah, most shounen may fall into that, but I like how
there are times in even bleach and naruto where you predict something and it doesn't
happen the way everyone says it will. I like the authors to pull a fast one now and then.

And yeah, Ichigo is the kind of hero to always come out the victor in the end.
Not something liked by some fans of manga and anime, or alot of fans I should say,
but I'm okay with it. If you find the manga/anime enjoyable, that's all that matters in the end.

Kenpachi, rofl, that was an epic win for him. I predicted he would hear his spirit
of his Zanpakuto, but no dice -- Kubo stayed true to his character. I really liked
that finish for him.


AND FINALLY YES, ICHIGO NEEDS A NEW MOVE, MAH GAWD. Getsuga Tenshou won't beat Aizen :| ..


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-09 14:37:10
if he learns a new move it will probably be a stronger version of getsuga tenshou i bet like how naruto upgrades his rasengan. yea it sucks we have to wait friggin 2 weeks but we are through them now. next week it will be back :D. im expecting ownage on the highest level for ichigo but then again ichigo has not seen aizen's zanpaktou. theres still so many factors though. yamamoto has not used bankai yet and theres still ichigo and ishida's dads. kubo has brought up anything on them for awhile. i would like to see a flashback or something. hope he doesnt forget about them.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-09 15:55:58
[@Shuy] The heck, so not even a double episode next week. Hopefully double chapters, but doubtful still.

I know some fans watch anime and whatnot, but if there's no point in even discussing factors of it what's the point really.
I mean it's good to share thoughts and opinions. If you just watching something and don't bother with it, it's boring.
Bleach is an anime that's biased and overrated, but that doesn't mean I hate it cause I like it and have been following it both ways.
If there's just the motto "the main heroin will always win in the end", yeah then like it's just a disappointment.

And there are anime where the heroin dies and it's sad, but that makes it awesome.
You can say that with endings like with Death Note which goes both ways. Code Geass [R2]. etc.
If you just watch something and accept it with no sense of thought, there's almost no point.

[@Ray] lol, Oodama Getsuga Tenshou!! ROFL!!

Just to say this about Rasengan real quick since you brought it up.
If you count every Rasengan we've seen, Naruto actually knows like 7 Rasengans (some he can only do because of the environment).
Ichigo technically has two I guess, if you can even say that, one with his shikai released and bankai released.

Ownage from Ichigo or on Ichigo? lol let's not j-walk anything here yet.
I'd be damned if Ishin just randomly showed up, or even after Ichigo's about to be defeated.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-09 18:24:28
LOL why not? they havent been seen since ichigo and ishida left. it wouldnt suprise ONE BIT to see that ishin or whatshisface snuck into the fight to save ichigo at the last moment and then have some epic explanation of what happened with him or why he couldnt save his mom. it makes for intesting conversation

Ichigo: WHY DIDNT YOU SAVE MOM?

Ishin: STFU I COULDNT

Ichigo: i dont understand /cry

Ishin: its k

Ichigo: k

LOL of course it wont go like that but it makes you think right?

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-09 21:12:47
Well I always wonder what the heck Ichigo's dad does.
It's obvious he knows somewhat what Ichigo does being his father,
there's no way he's clueless. He probably keeps in touch with Urahara.

Ishida's dad is Ryuken, and not sure why he'd come to save a warrior of whom he hates, a shinigami.
I doubt he can even come save Ishida in Hueco Mundo. The only battle going on there is Yammy vs. Byakuya/Kenpachi.
I don't see anyone else interfering in that battle anytime soon. Yammy's going to get DPed and die soon anyways.

lol, the way you explain his reason for coming is more than not likely but ever so random.
Even if he does come, what different would he make? Oh the heroin of the anime is defeated, but his dad becomes the new heroin?
But then he gets taken out blindingly or pulls a hamstring or his back and goes down?

Actually his dad's pretty active and young so I don't he'd pull his back or groin. XD

The only thing I'm thinking without you putting foolish scenarios into my head (lol) is Ichigo getting mind f#cked.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by kweni on 2010-01-11 05:19:13
Hi,
recently Kubo was a guest of a Japan show.During that show, he talk about Bleach by answering questions.
And he gave us some major spoil (two) about the future of Bleach and one of them is about Isshin.
Well Kubo already said that he will tell us about Isshin's past and in that show he said that Isshin will have an important role in Bleach story.
He also said that actually we're in the (end of the ?) Arrancar Arc and then there will be another Arc (Royal Guard, VL ?) an after that arc, another one where Isshin will "play" his role.So those who thinks about Bleach end, well we at least will have another two arc and for the one after the Arrancar Arc, Kubo's planning to draw something short-like mini arc.
The second is about the two corpses that Mayuri found in Szayel lab.Kubo said thoses corpses will also have a key role in the story.
Then in bonus, Kubo drew in live during that show for his/Bleach fans.

The show's videos links :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtcAe...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5fvL...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZk5E...layer_embedded



even though we can not understand japanese

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-11 07:29:48
whooooa thanks dude. that just blew my mind. hmmm it will be interesting to see whats happening in the future.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2010-01-11 11:38:40
That sounds like some great future work to come in bleach; but those video links
aren't working for me, by the way. Say it's a malformed URL.


As far as Isshin goes, I HOPE he gets to join in the action soon. I've wanted to
see him get into for a long time, ever since we learned he was a Shinigami and
possibly a former Captain. I'd love to see what his Zanpakuto can do, mah gawd.

I could see him saving Ichigo if he got just wrecked by Aizen, but then I think
Isshin would get wrecked too -- but at least hold him off long enough for good ol'
Ichigo to escape or something. However with the build up to this battle, and the
fact they keep saying Ichigo is the only hope, I think we're gonna see Ichigo at
least hold his own against Aizen; for awhile anyway.

Also with the lead up, I think Aizen will end up getting surprised by Ichigo's power.


And rofl @ That conversation, Ray. " It's k. " " k ". That made me LOL, haha.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-11 12:05:02
Meh, we'll see how it goes anyways. Aizen treated Shinji's bankai like nothing,
and people already sometimes treats Ichigo's bankai like nothing special either.

I forget, but what's Urahara doing? Is he guarding Soul Society or something I forget.
It's been so long since this battle began I forget what he's been doing.

About Ichigo's dad getting involved and those arcs, there's different ways where it can go.
It might also possibly be some sort of flashback-filler~ish arc, but it'll be a while until we see.
The anime though needs to spread out more time because they're still a bit close to the manga.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2010-01-11 15:55:31
Urahara hasn't been touched on. He was said to have created the battleground for
the Shinigami v. Aizen battle, and transfered Karakura to Soul Society.

Other then that, he hasn't been mentioned; so maybe he can show up soon! :D


And yes, the anime is reeeeally close to the manga. Closer then it should be, by far.


Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by on 2010-01-11 16:37:42
it would be nice to see urahara's bankai. and for some reason im wondering if yourichi has a zanpaktou hidden somewhere. i doubt it but i wonder. hmmmmmmm

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by kweni on 2010-01-11 16:59:11
yeah, i wonder what his zanpakuto looks like...and also other captains' bankai and the two remaining antagonist this time.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-12 17:01:36
[@Shuy] Yeah I know how he made the whole area with Karakura Town and Fake Karakura Town.

If possible he'll end up fighting Aizen again if he tries to retreat to Soul Society (cause he's going to find the real Karakura Town).
And yeah, the manga's too close to the anime still, especially since the anime's Zanpakuto arc is over pretty much.

[@Ray] She's known to have a weapon like where Soifon has hers, but she's never wielded it.
But she's so badass that she doesn't need a weapon to really defeat an enemy, which is awesome.
But I think hers would be similar to Soifon's cause Soifon's Zanpakuto ability is similar to her sensei, Yoruichi.

Urahara's bankai would be friggin' insane. I forget what Benihime's shikai does, but like Urahara knows Cero, which is awesome.

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by kweni on 2010-01-13 05:32:05
hope there's an update this week...

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Re: Bleach Manga (spoilers)
Link | by devils-angel on 2010-01-15 02:18:09
What did I tell you guys? Ichigo (so far) literally has 0% in beating Aizen, who's FASTER!

But of course, it's going to have a BS ending or result.
It was kind of cool to see the other remaining fighters (who aren't so beat up, lol), say they'd protect him.

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