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I try not to live with one goal in life. If you fail one goal,then you won't feel like your worthless and don't have a point in living. Im gonna use Jomunga as an example.(Jomunga can bash my brains in at Critic's bar later) According to Jomunga one of the main goals is to love. Simply put Jomunga said that without giving your love,or attaining it,there no point in living in further.(thats what I deducted anyways,you'll probabaly get a whole other story from Jomunga) If one has more goals than just love,they won't dwell on it if they fail. |
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The chance thing. Let me just say I live for that chance. 5% for finding a reason to live isn't all that bad. However 95% is a big percentage. However as you get old 5% goes to 4% then even lower. Eventually it gets to a percentage worse than the lottery. And during that time trying to find the small percentage you still have to endure your current life the entire time. For some they can't endure their current life that long for such a small chance. No Kotuso, that is good. For myself I devote all my effort to one goal to help its chance more. Sometimes one goal can aid another. I have tried to think of other goals, but to no avail. I can't think of anything I want to do with my life. It's just that love makes everything else seem so ungoalworthy.(is that a word?) Take Sero for example. He has more goals, by count he wanted to be in the video game industry and find love. Quite good for motavation to live if I say. Some goals are easier to obtain than others. As long as Sero stays on course he is bound to make it to the game world. However love is hard, very hard. For me I am going for 1 goal and it is very rare for one to succeed in. I should have a easier backup goal that can keep me alive, but you know I just don't have one. It is better than no goal at least. That is when suicide comes. When I said I am not inspired my a man living for no reason, I meant than anybody can do that. Someone with goals and reason someone who works like mad to get them is inspirational. Some one with meaning in their life is inspirational to me. 30 years old is an example. I used it because it is when you start aging.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-17 21:04:23
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hehe Jomunga, you used me as an example......wow....@_@ Actually the Game Design goal is gana be hard in its own terms as well. Love is hard, very hard. Ezpecially for me ^_^ I was contemplating and I think I just dont see anyone actually being able to love me. Part of that is that I am used to being by myslef, being alone. I made friends, lost contact or such. But I didnt make alot of friends, I had alot of people I knew and hanged out with sometimes in school but now that highschool is over....lost contact. I do have one really good friend, he has been my friend since 6th grade. He showed me Princess Mononoke, so I credit him for getting me into anime. He likes anime too. He can see more than me...lucky bastard...hehe..but now he has gone to boot camp so....I am basically by myself again. You see, I could be like Kotuso and go all anti-love(no offense). HOWEVER...I am not going to stop my search...see...there is a CHANCE....even though it is SLIM....I am going to take it because it is there. What are your hobbies Jomunga? The reason I am gana go into Game Design is because I like Videogames. I like to play them, alot...hehe and I think it would be awsome to make them ^_^ Why dont you pick something you like to do and make a goal out of it? the most important goal for me however is not game design or love.... It is being able to help others through tough times because I can say I have been through that. If I havnt then at least I want to help somehow by being there, supporting them. IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING I AM HERE TO HELP. POST HERE OR AT THE DEPRESSION THREAD. OR CONTACT ME at overlordsero@hotmail.com IF you have MSN messanger, I have it too so just use the email to add. Anyways, I have to goto sleep or im not going to get up for school.... 
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I never take that threat lightly since I don't know if he's going to have a great day or come home depressed. You've seen it here when he's great for a month then one day he's as depressed as someone can get. We (Ky and myself, have learned to recognize the slide down. I do everything I can because I do't want to lose him. It shows you that even someone who is loved as much as I love Ranger can slide into despair. He has been depressed for several weeks. Ever since Mu's arrest it has been one nightmare after another. I've now been sick for almost 3(?) weeks and Ranger is trying to do everything. Problems at home, problems at both jobs he is really stressed to his limit and this is the time I have to keep an extra eye open. When someone talks of suicide, listen to them because it is only a heartbeat away from whatever they have in mind.  |
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Sero Thank you for caring :) And a respons to your question Can you take someone elses life? Isnt suicide almost like that? Well I don't think they are the same at all. Unless you are pregnant... I think Suicide is taking something that belongs to you and chosing what you want to do with your life and death. Killing someone else is taking something that belongs to someone else. I do not think under ANY cercumstance ANYONE has the right to decide when someone ELSE should live or die. Even if they did something bad. Assisted death with them agreeing to be killed is more like suicide, but just killing someone else for your own reasons I think isn't right Lady_Rin I send love your way. I hope you get better and I hope your friend can work things out and regain the will to live and can see how beautiful life can be if you just let it. 
There is a world just around the corner of your mind, Where reality is an intruder and Dreams come true... |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-18 10:11:54 (edited 2006-01-18 12:00:57)
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Rose, No prob ^_^ I am a caring person, just who I am. And thank you for RESPONDING on my questions. Oh and WE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY!!!! Jan 7th right? Happy belated bday!! If anyone needs to talk or anything I am here. and so are others. Post, we will help. if anyone wants to contact me about anything at all click my name and it should say the email. I have MSN so use my email to add if you want ^_^
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@Sero No offense taken,heard worse. Where do you plan to work as a game designer anyway? WINGS will work in either Japan or will stay in the U.S. and work for American Companies in Seattle or any other city that has game developing businesses. As for my career,............................................? Hmm...IM TRAINING TO BE A CAGE FIGHTER!!! J/K Maybe a Palentologist,I always wanted to be one. Scary guy sitting next to suspects in interregations is number two. |
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on 2006-01-18 20:06:40 (edited 2006-01-19 05:31:18)
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Rose thank you for your love and concern only you made a tiny mistake. Ranger is not my friend, he is my lover and husband and we have been married almost 23 years. Ky is my son 16 years old. I also have two girls who have their own places. The problems I talk about with him go back for years. |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-18 20:35:34
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Kotuso, whew I feel better...hehe ^_^ OH CRAP!!! WINGS im so sorry!!! I forgot to post my ideas...hehe I will do it tommorrow I found the stuff, just gata post it....gana be a bit though...hehe I dont know when tommorrow but it should be up by this time. Oh and I plan to stay in the United States. I wana make great games that will go world wide and bring some attention to US.....gana be REALLY hard...but that is my dream
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2006-01-18 22:10:48
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Wow, this thread doesn't want to leave, although it makes me happy to know that there are so many devoted people to such an issue. I've learned quite a bit through out the durations of this thread, taking into consideration everyone's different opinions. Besides the fact that this is a touchy subject with no right or wrong answer, it's a touchy subject that ought to be taken very seriously. I know everyone's said it, but if someone you care about it even hinting of suicide, joking or not get help, because you never know if those hints or jokes are them crying out and asking for your help and your love. I too had tried in the past to end my own life, it was at a time where I felt I was completely worhtless, I felt dirty, used, (I remember saying in here earlier that I'd been raped when I was younger, not one of my fondest memories) I was one of those people stuck in the dark, after a time I began to feel the strains of the darkness that had begun clouding my heart and my mind. First it started with simple little thing like biting my nails so low they would sometimes bleed and then I began cutting to try and feel again. The darkness had made me numb and cold and I didn't like it anymore. I'd also had depression as well at that time. Then I tried to take my own life and I couldn't go through with it. I know that most of what I said can't justify what I tried to do, I was so young, I still had many years ahead of me, I was scared and I was jumping to rash decisions, making choices with my heart not my head as my parents have told me numerous times before... Going back to that last saying "Making choices with the heart not the head," sort of falls under what jomunga had been talking about, jumping into decisions and not thinking. Well actually everyone thinks about it before they go through with it. That's what seperates the suicidals from those who follow through with it. Those who follow through think about coming to terms with everyone thing and getting it over with quickly, just ending it all. Those who are just suicidal as I had once been think about and think about all the time wondering, is this right? what am I doing? why? could there be another way? things along those lines. People like me are looking for an escape and that was the only thing that can be found sometimes. This doesn't justify it of course, but it may help ease some of the harsh reality. I agree full heartedly with Rin that in no way is anyone who tries or follows through with suicide is a coward. What I may have been doing at the time I tried it may have been a cowardly thing to do, but that doesn't make me a coward does it? Most of time people are just so weakened and the pressures just become to hard and they just don't want to deal with it anymore, none of it and so they see the knife or the gun or the noose or w/e they chose as that small flickering light of hope at the end of our dark void. This is all. As for Sero- I could've never killed someone, I don't have that audacity or power to go through with that. And in a way you're right those are the same. I wouldn't be able to kill someone else, and ther's no way I could've or still can follow through with killing myself. For now I've found several things to live for, several things that help make the day to day hassles and stresses of life just a little bit easier. They're not lavish or huge things that can tear me out of the darkness should I fall back down for the most part, but they will help to guide me back out on my own and lead me back into the light of hope. For now this is all I have...
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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| i would prefer suicide cos i, myself ever thought of killing myself. frankly speaking, i cut my own wrist because of a guy. cut my hair very de short ecause of another boy. an even ate medicine for no reason because of depression and pressure. i think that when someone die, they would have no feeling. so when i die, i would feel no pressure, depression, hatred, anger, sorrow and others. i tried to stop all my thinking on killing myself by calling all those help hotline but none work so far. so who can help me? |
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suicide pwns. nothing better to live in the unreal than in the real.  |
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for me, suicide is not an option. I will never hurt myself physically. it takes courage to live even if your now living in a depressing situation. I too had been depressed but I never thought about ending my life. attempting suicide is just saying to yourself that you're weak and cannot take the challenges of life! be strong and live your life to the fullest!  |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-19 04:21:59 (edited 2006-01-19 06:07:41)
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Alex, "i tried to stop all my thinking on killing myself by calling all those help hotline but none work so far. so who can help me?" I have the answer......ME!!!! hehe...^_^ CLick my name...has my e-mail.....Do you have MSN messenger? I do...if you do add if you want and we could talk. I am here to help. AnimeAngel, "For now this is all I have..." I dont get it....areu talking about the post or? YOU WERE WHAT!!!!? That bastard....may he rot in hell..... ANyways....thanks for answering my question ^_^ ANd Im happy that you didnt so suicide ^_^ I would have never met you then ^_^ Well I gata go to school...byebyes everyone ^_^
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sero, have you tried talking to a close friend of yours? maybe he/she can help(anyway that is if you listen to them) and if you tried to kill yourself please don't broadcast it because not all people want to hear about another person trying to kill others or themselves no hard feelings..........ok? ---------------------------------------------- for me anyone who tried to kill themselves maybe have a problem in the head. hehehehe.....
^v^ "Kawaii!!!!"
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-19 05:45:03
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KImmy Kimmy Kimmy..... I am not saying I want to. Alex said that, that is why I used quotes. "and if you tried to kill yourself please don't broadcast it because not all people want to hear about another person trying to kill others or themselves no hard feelings..........ok?" Uh....we want people to broadcast that to help them!!!! HEnce we have the depression thread and this thread for that and other thigns as well. "for me anyone who tried to kill themselves maybe have a problem in the head. hehehehe....." Uh....that is NOT a good thing to say....AT ALL. Plus if you havnt been down the suicicde path....then you really have no say in the matter!!!!!!!!
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on 2006-01-19 05:45:18 (edited 2006-01-19 05:48:21)
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Kimmy, the purpose of this thread is to help people realize what happens to others as well as themselves. To keep them from commiting suicide. If the subject bothers you, and I'm sure it does, others as well, then do not enter this thread. So that others know. This thread is about suicide, medical or otherwise. It is a discussion of who, what, where, and why it happens. The purpose is so I don't lose my husband or friends. Clear enough? If the subject disturbs you then read no further. I don't know why taking the lives of other people came up, I could never do that. I couldn't even hurt someone, I can't even defend myself. On the other hand Ranger is fully capable of taking a life without even thinking about it. If it were in self defense I don't even think he would have any guilt over it at all. I found this out the night I was assaulted. Ranger No guilt, no problem, just a dead 'un. I have no problem taking a life if it's justified. I prefer a handgun something in a calibre >40. I am ready for you; enter the house, car jack even an assault on the street I am armed and dangerous. No bull. Since crime has gone up here in the last few years now I carry heat, usually in 45 cal. /Ranger |
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Sero you didn't tell us your birthday. Was it because it was close to Ranger's when Rin was sick? Whatever I was wondering when we would have another thing simialr to nightmare's. Here is a game. What I said so far in these forums is I am an aires and am born in March. Lets see who can guess my b-day correctly. The answer in a couple of months. Animeangel, I was waiting eagerly for your reply. Thank you for thinking wisely. I appreciate you just being here. I remember when you said about the rape thing. I even asked you if you knew where he lived. I was actually hoping you may blurt something out so I could go kill him or something if he was close enough.(No I won't do that any more, I was thinking about it back then) I think I may have kicked someones ass over it, or maybe it was another post I did that. This is where it gets akward. A while ago what you posted got the talk going about saving your virginity. That made me think that I misunderstood this thread. Now this thread again is making me confused. And now I don't know how to say this. I was relieved and now worried again. I said this before and i'll say it again. There are times when I can kill, and even enjoy it. Also a law just past in Oregon, saying that doctors could perscribe a lethal medicine to termilly ill patients. I like this law. It might now become available in California. Ok the pig paragraph is off topic and I was just rambling on about my past, ignore it unless you are actually interested in me. I Kotuso I actually am seriously crying right now actually I am done now. You have actually said my passed dream that I lost due to fact I am my fathers son. A long time ago I wanted to be a kickboxer. Okay now I am seriously done. Ok here is the story. Before anime, before my new and improved self. Fighting was my only passion. I got into it to take down my brother. I did, I loved it. I kept on training. I was great, my ego swelled. I became famous in school, I recieved compliments and praises on how good I was from friends. Others hated me. I showed off what I learned. Of corse since I liked it so much I decided to do it as my job. So I told my parents what I wanted, and guess what fukcer laughed in my face when I said I wanted to be a kickboxer, my fukc of a dad. Of course I didn't let what shit he said stop me. My mom took me to get a check up and we asked the doctor. He says I can't with my stupid skin condition. I have thick, however very weak skin, I get 2ND degree burns from sunburn. I can't stand direct sunlight. Apparently what he said was true when we went to a boxing gym and asked about it. Apparently since my skin tears up easily, which of course is true I sometimes bleed for no reason. Any fight I would take part in would be stopped, because of my bleeding despite the fact I could still fight. It it the crappy regulations that kept me out of the ring. Who did I inherit this skin condition from? My dad. I wasn't devasted or anything. It was like all I couldn't do is fight as my job, it doesn't mean I can't fight at all. So I continued my life with out knowing what to do with it. Also here is another annoying thing that happened thanks to my dad's genes. I was always told I would grow to be over 6'. Because I was said to have my moms side of the families' genes. Nope it turns out later in life I am closer to my dad then thought. This means no hope of getting any higher than 5'10"(it aint bad, it would of been I had I been a kickboxer) Basically any fault with my body is my dad's fault. He is a gene pool of shit. This is not the enormous post I was talking about before. Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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by overlordsero
on 2006-01-19 06:29:57
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Jomunga, I think I said my bday once on a thread, cant rememebr what thread, and I didnt really "advertise" it that much anyway. Uh...another thing similar to Nightmares? and the game? uh...what do we have to guess correctly?
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by AnimeAngel27
on 2006-01-19 21:41:44
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Joumunga- Talking about virginity and saving it, I had said I was still a virgin, I like sometimes to think because it wasn't an agreement or anything that I may still be somewhat of a virgin. But I think about what I posted before about it and I realise that in my drugged state I was wrong, I could've had the HIV/AIDS, this scared me further until I was able to calmly tell myself that I didn't because the test came back negative thankfully... Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I realise now that I prolly shouldn't have been posting while I was sick, too many antibiotics were clouding my mind and confusing me. Sorry for the confusion. Guess I'm not really a virgin then huh? I should prolly stop trying to convince myself of that too, it'll only hurt more in the end?! And I do remember you asking about his where abouts. Truthfully I have no idea, he fled at the end of that school year and I've heard hide nor hair of him since. This part scares me from time to time, I'm always living in the constant fear that he may come back some day and do it all again.... *shudders* But I'm careful so even if he does come back I won't let it happen again... Kimmy, many of us have said that it's not a weakness and unless you know of such a pain that those of us who were or ever are suicidal feel then please think carefully about what you say. This is like fanfiction, I don't know how many of you read it but, in fanfiction it's a writers perspecitive and the writer's opinions put into the story and if a reader doesn't like it then all they have to do is stop, you can hit the back button and forget everything you saw if if bothers you that much... Just please, where ever your posting, be careful about what you say before you say things, words can hurt just as much as physical abuse and they can also get you into a lot of unnecessary arguments and trouble as well. Opinons are very touchy subjects and most won't hesitate to completely chew you up and spit you out at the things you say. But I believe that most of us won't pass judgment and won't do that, we just wish you to be more careful so that you don't hurt others or yourself and everyone can enjoy their experiences here. Alex, you may want to visit the depression thread, there are MANY people there who would be more then willing to help. Sero being one of them and myself as well. I'd hate to lost someone else to suicide. No matter the relationship with them. Sero- "For now this is all I have..." I was referring to my previous sentence where I talked about the small things in life that help to drag me from my dark reverie. It does include this forum and the people in it. I don't have a lot really to pull me out, so I'm in trouble if I fall to far in and that's why I said that, because I'm hoping to have more to live for in the future then what I have now. Sorry if I confused you any... Koganei- you say it's weakness others will tell you that it takes strength to inflict enough pain upon yourself that it kills you. It takes someone brave enough to do that and not to stand down and second guess themselves constantly. It's all how you look at it, kind of like the whole "Is the glass half full or half empty" thing. As for living life to the fullest, well soemtimes that gets to be hard to do. Sometimes the darkness that spreads so rapidly makes it hard. But it's good to see your morals and your high spirits, never lose that hope it will help you go far in life!!
"Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film..." "Friends are the people who know everything about you and still put up with you!" "Nothing in life is free, even death costs us."
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