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genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by krysthen on 2006-03-31 22:27:50 (edited 2006-03-31 22:56:21)
which group will win if ever they started a war with each other?

genei ryodan
-bonorenolf, coltopi, feitan, franklin, hisoka, kuroro, machi, nobunaga, pakunoda, phinx, shalnark, shizuku, ubogin
-uses nen
-class s criminals

akatsuki
-with orochimaru
-uses chakra
-class s criminals

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by amano-san on 2006-03-31 22:34:38
Genei Ryodan.
Hisoka/Kuroro alone can exterminate the living roots of Akatsuki. :)

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Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by flamegod on 2006-03-31 22:38:12
What about Itaichi O.o??????? What about him!!!!!!!!!
I say Akatsuki will win because Orochimaru can summon Manda LOL


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by amano-san on 2006-03-31 22:51:07
@Otaku-killer: Have yae even watched Hunter X Hunter?

If Orochimaru can summon Manda, so can Kuroro.
He can simply copy (note: permanently steal) Orochimaru's lame ass and have summons for 2-3 at a time.
Itachi? Bleh... psychotic Hisoka can deal with him. YAY for bubble gums! :D

Nen vs Chakra.
Doesn't matter. :P

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Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by flamegod on 2006-03-31 22:57:28
If The HunterXHunter group fight against the whole Akatsuki Team I dunno what to say....


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by krysthen on 2006-03-31 23:06:01
just wanna add that genjutsu won't work on the genei ryodan because the ryodan members don't have chakra...

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by Sakura on 2006-03-31 23:14:40
>< HArd decision. ..


....

I dunno, they'll both die or something?


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by flamegod on 2006-03-31 23:16:31
Orochimaru IS a SANNIN thats why he is so powerful....and Hisoka cant defeat Itaichi c'mon Itaichi Scared the $#it out of Kakashi.........Nad About Akatsuki well his just a lame ass


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by krysthen on 2006-03-31 23:18:48
umm... akatsuki can't use gyou, right?

so they can't see nen... including hisoka's pansy gum...

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by Sakura on 2006-03-31 23:18:48 (edited 2006-03-31 23:19:33)
Otaku-Killer does have a point.

......

EDIT: I think it's biased on how well you know the group.


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by krysthen on 2006-03-31 23:27:28 (edited 2006-04-07 03:00:32)
Okay... let's see if I can break this down a little:

For the purposes of this excercise, I'm going to assume that Nen and Chakra are similar enough (they're both variants of 'Chi', after all) that Genjutsus will work on Nen users, and Nen users will be able to 'see' Chakra, and things like Neji's "Opening Points" will work on a Nen user.

Genei Ryodan:
Advantages:
SPEED: (edited) This one's a big one; in the HXH universe speed is an advantage, but not a decisive one , but in the Naruto universe, speed owns all (e.g. the Fourth Hokage's "Yellow Flash" technique), largely because Chakra is very nearly useless for defense unless you have an absolutely monstrous aura (Naruto in full Kyuubi mode, for example), or very specialized, powerful and rare techniques (the Hyuuga clan's "Divine Whirl", for example).

All the Ryodan, as far as I can tell from what has been shown, are much faster than just about any of the Naruto Ninjas that have been shown to date, with the possible exception of Haku when he's using that "Ice Mirrors" thing.(credits to foolproof) they can get out of a car in a quarter of a second and can easily dodge bullets fired simultaneously.

DEFENSE: The other biggie- as I said earlier, Chakra is very nearly useless for defense, whereas Nen gives you a very strong one- it is even possible (again, going with the assumption that Nen and Chakra are similar enough) that 'raw Chakra' attacks, like the Chidori and Rasengan, wouldn't be able to penetrate Ten, the most basic level of Nen defense, (since Ten blocks ill-intentioned Nen, and potentially Chakra) or at least not be able to penetrate it very well.

TEAMWORK: (edited) The Genei Ryodan are described as "Closer than family, more distant than strangers". Most of them have been working together for close on to a decade now, and they're... comfortable... with one another, with little need for communication to perform a coordinated and powerful attack. The Akatsuki, on the other hand, rarely work together (at least from what's been shown), and, in general, seem to have little use for one another other than whatever help the others can be in reaching their common goal. they can't just stand there and watch their fellow member die, can't they?

STEALTH: Sorry, wasn't sure what else to call this one, but anyways... in Naruto, very few Chakra users seem to be able to see Chakra; in Hunter X Hunter, all Nen users can see Nen- it comes with the territory; if your Shouko are open so that you can use Nen, you can also see Nen. If I'm right, this could prove to be a heavy, maybe even overwhelming, advantage for the Ryodan.

RANGE: The Ryodan have Franklin, Bono, Pakunoda, and presumably Kuroro, all of whom have immensely powerful ranged attacks; as I said in my earlier post, I'm really not sure that the Naruto-verse ninjas would be able to dodge bullets.

WEIRDNESS: Again, maybe not the best name for this category, but... some of the Ryodan have Hatsus that completely neutralize anything the Akatsuki can pull off- Shizuku's Deme-Chan comes to mind immediately; what's Sasori gonna do if all his puppets get vacuumed up, along with his sand? Or if Feitan just takes a couple of dozen Kunai to the back (on purpose), then roasts the lot of them?

Akatsuki:
Advantages:
POWER: The Akatsuki do (and deal with) stuff on a scale that the Ryodan would have a hard time even imagining- burning through indestructible, fireproof walls (Itachi's black fire), dealing with Gaara throwing thousands of tons of sand around (Deidara vs. Gaara), trying to blow up entire cities (Deidara), spontaneously creating hundreds of thousands of litres of water and then attacking using solidified shapes from it (Kisame), summoning snakes the size of office blocks (Orochimaru), that kind of thing.

MOBILITY: The Akatsuki's ability to stick to walls and walk on water could make a bigger difference than you might think- the high ground is always a tactical advantage, and if Kisame (you know, that shark-looking guy that waves the big chakra-eating sword around) floods wherever they're fighting, being able to just stand on top rather than swimming would be a major-league advantage.

ILLUSIONS: Assuming that genjutsu could affect the Genei Ryodan, this could provide a dangerous edge to the Akatsuki- I don't think we've seen any illusion users in the HXH world at all, so it's unlikely that the Ryodan would know how to deal with it (they might not even realize that they were in an illusion, as long as the Akatsuki were smart and didn't make it blatantly obvious, like Itachi's stupid 'red-moon-weird-clouds-I-control-the-horizontal-I-control-the-vertical' lala land).

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by on 2006-04-01 02:02:18
Though there's little information on the members of Akatsuki (I'm basing these on the anime not the manga), I'm sure that Genei Ryodan can defeat them. krysthen-chan has stated it all... o_O Genei Ryodan has a lot more advanatges than the Akatsuki.


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by craving for moar on 2006-04-01 02:34:52
I guess that Genei Ryodan will win because of the many advatages they have against the Akatsuki.

What if I jump out
of this speeding jeepney?
Fly without wings
Reach for the grey-painted heaven
And out into the sea of infinity?



Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by Lucifer on 2006-04-01 05:05:42
I don't know which side will win, both groups they're so strong.. Must be Draw.. That's just my guessing.. ;o;

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by on 2006-04-01 13:36:26 (edited 2006-04-01 13:40:04)
if i would be the author of that series, i'll make the akatsuki win. because hysoka is no longer a ryodan, and had not been a ryodan by heart. and because it didn't have a great impact on me after finding out that orochimaru has left the akatsuki long time ago. they still has itachi and the akatsuki leader.

chakra (indonesian term i guess) and nen are from a same thing, that's right. maybe they just didn't elaborated it on naruto as much as they did on hunter x hunter because they differ in theme but i'm pretty sure every ninjas have the other elements and know how to use ten, zetsu, gyou, etc. because they're deemed to be human abilities, only exaggerated on animations.

anyway, whoever wins, naruto in the kyuubi form complete with nine tails alone could kill them all. nen and everything around it won't matter to a demon fox.

courtesy of koumonji, salamat tol!

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by EmAn on 2006-04-01 20:50:03
if hisoka is still there.. i'll choose genei ryodan.. but if not.. akatsuki..

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Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by blue on 2006-04-01 23:05:37
Urmm... Maybe a draw or Genei Ryodan wins...

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by YuE on 2006-04-02 00:51:30
I think Ryoudan will win against akatsuki because kuroro(QURROL)have nen copy technics like sharingan itachi and ryoudan teamwork better than akatsuki....


Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by setsuna_mudou on 2006-04-02 06:14:30
why should they wage war on each other? because itachi will use his red eyes (sharingan) and less-intelligent ryodan members will assume that he is a kuruta tribe member?

but i'm sure that even though the ryodan outnumbers the akatsuki who only have 9 members, akatsuki will win.

there's the leader of akatsuki whom we can conclude is the strongest because the members are obeying him without doubt...

Re: genei ryodan (HxH) vs. akatsuki (Naruto)?
Link | by flamegod on 2006-04-02 06:22:22
Thats what i been telling!!!! THANK YOU Sesuna modou-san!!!!!

akatsuki is powerful espiecially when he use his hammer!!!!!Itaichi can use Sharingan and can copy their move even Kuroro's copy skill!!!


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