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Who hates anime licensing?
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by Ryousuke_sama
on 2006-03-23 02:41:02
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| OK, who here HATE anime licensing? Those who do please raise hand. *raises hand* I said it before (probably) and I will say it again. I just absolutely hate anime licensing! What got me pissed off is that they licensed BLEACH! It's about to get good (after this random saga on the Bound) and those crappy US anime companies licensed it. I know I can still download them from anime listing sites such as Downloadanime.org (god bless those rogue sites that still puts up fansubs for licensed anime), but it's bloody annoying when you can't download the torrent from the usual source. Man, if I can terrorise those anime licensing companies legally I would hey, seriously. REALLY SERIOUSLY pisses me off. |
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by Ryousuke_sama
on 2006-03-23 02:48:53
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Oh, it won't be so bad if they release it on DVD very soon after getting the rights to it and if the DVD ain't overpriced, but it's that these "companies" (emphasis to show anger) get the license and holds onto it while not releasing it on DVD for a long while and then when they do, they overprice it. Like my friend told me, a DVD can hold more than bloody 5 eps, yet the DVDs only have 5 eps on them (worse was Initial D on DVD, those bloody licensing group only put 3 eps and those so called "tricked out version (waste of space)" or the 3 eps on the second DVD to Ah Megami sama the OVA (not the TV series). And they charge roughly the same price for them regardless of how many eps are on there. I can buy 10 DVD+R for around $20, and include the costs of making an anime DVD, it should only be around $15, and include some sort of profit, it should be only $20 for each DVD. Yet, these companies charge for around $30. That's REALLY overpricing it buddy. DOWN WITH ANIME LICENSING!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I don't think it's bad. We should support licence things ,if not nobody wants to make good products such as anime anymore!! They can't make thing if they have no support eh?? Still I agree that it's so over priced -*- too expensive really..they should give more quality.
nemesis
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| If don't mind, I would like to ask one question.. What is anime licensing..? :tish: |
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by sherlock_holmes
on 2006-03-23 05:12:44
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i hate anime licence. they always charge more then the original prices. 
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Yea me too i hate it sooooooo much and since the licence anime fansubs drop like crazy. In addition they slaughter the original voices.  |
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by Ekirin0450
on 2006-03-23 05:37:52
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| I like it and I don't. I think it's nice for those people who just don't download stuff that hasn't been licensed because it widens their viewing choices. However, when they licensed Trinity Blood as I was getting the torrents of it... I was angry. So I understand the hate... but *sigh* I understand why they license too. I just wish the prices weren't so bloody high. |
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by Ryousuke_sama
on 2006-03-23 15:01:14
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But Nemesis, you got to remember something. Before anyone outside East Asia even heard of anime, Japan has already be showing them to its own audience and those in HK and other areas near Japan. So even if those bloody US companies didnt start these licensing crap, the Japanese animation companies would still be making anime for its own people. Correct me if I'm wrong but anime came to US and other western countries mainly because people who went to JP found anime interesting and then manage to get some contacts in JP who would put the anime into computer and the net then send these raws to their affiliated fansub groups and these groups sub them into the anime format we all love so much. It's only when this caught on that those bloody capitalist @$$ companies decided that it would have a big profit in distributing anime. And even though they would already have big enough profit by selling it cheap, they decided they want more $$$ and jack up the price (in HK, the anime are cheap, too bad I rather have English subs). And then they decided that since the targeted audience have little to no contact with Japanese culture they decided it might be "too much" for those viewers to handle (what? if they can't handle some other culture and language, they are really screwed, and if they dont like it then dont watch anime), so these companies decided to introduce dubbing into the anime, despite there are more anime fans out there who like the original Japanese version than those 'fans' who have no clue about Japanese culture. And now it turns out into these $*&(&@ state where anime are way overpriced, release dates waaaay after they got the license, and ruins the original by 'being cool' and add this and scrap that and then choose bad voices for the dubs (I think the only good dub was in DBZ, Vegeta and Piccolo's voice sounds more like their personality than the original Japanese voice which made them sound sissy). Oh, one other thing, I hate it when they scrap the original soundtrack and put on their own eg. DBZ. What's wrong with JP music??? Does everything has to BE american? I say it again, I hate anime licensing. DOWN WITH ANIME LICENSING!!! |
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| Hell, yeah! Licensing sucks! If an anime is licensed ONLY in USA but WHY anyone in the world can't download it? I don't live in USA and I find it's NOT FAIR! |
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by YoYotheCananbalisticOreo
on 2006-03-23 18:01:49 (edited 2006-03-23 18:03:45)
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I essentially hate anime licensing. American countries hardly put any effort in thier dubbers and subs. Although...I can also say the same for some anime that try to pass thier dubbing off of a foreign language(speedgrapher last ep) Anyways I think subbers most often deliver best what anime has. They often put notes and translations that we otherwise not know about, and therefore proove more educational than plain American releases. It is also quite irritating how it takes them forever to actually distribute the anime after they have licensed it. The way that I approached the situation is.... I get the anime that hasnt been licensed yet or is just overlooked by the American companies, through subbers. If an anime has already been distributed in the states, than I rent it than make a copy of that dvd. If an anime is REAL good, and the US version actually does justice to the anime and packs extras if I bought it, than I buy it. Downloading and dvd renting to copy is what I do since the dvds ARE so overly priced. I agree with ryousuke sama, I truly hate it when they corrupt the originality of anime by replacing music and also in how they actually go ahead and EDIT or should I say, CUT out parts in the anime! Anime is ART. You DO NOT edit art!
I could give no less because I could give no more. ~myself
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i too hate the licensing of anime, but on the other hand it does expose the series to those less fortunate who have not watched it. but then again if they are gonna watch some anime that was edited to crap, and dubbed it might be better off not watching it(cuz i for one hate, hate, HATE! dubbings.) but hey, whatever if i like the show i buy it on dvd anyways. so ya it does bother me because some of my fave sub groups drop the series due to the licensing.  |
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I'll sign up for this club. Yes, it just irritates me that charge 25 bucks for a couple of crappily dubbed, poorly subbed anime. It is amazing that fansubs can do such a better job at subbing and to it for free also. If I am going to actaully pay for anime, I would at least expect some decent font color other than yellow the entire time.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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by Triple M-san
on 2006-03-23 20:58:32
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I've got a couple of questions for you all: 1) How many of you buy the Region 2 DVDs of anime series? If youu do, you already know that sometimes, you can pay up to three times as much as a Region 1 DVD for the untranslated Japanese version of anime series. Sometimes, for special editions, two episodes of a series (on a R2 DVD) cost five times as much as four episodes (on a R1 DVD). Now, $25 for four episodes doesn't seem that bad, right? 2) How many of you know Japanese? I'm not talking about the "Konnichiwa, kawaii neko-chan" jibberish people learn from listening to the Japanese version of anime. I'm talking about the "Can hold an intelligent conversation with a Japanese person" solid language basics (I know enough to loosely translate Japanese manga, which is pretty good, I understand) If you don't, then of course, you don't know that people mess up constantly when dubbing in Japanese. What, you think what you can't comprehend must be perfect, right? Don't make me laugh. 3) How many of you watched One Piece on American/Canadian TV? Yes, WE KNOW THAT 4KIDS MESSED IT UP!!! Get. Over. It. 4Kids' didn't license OP to market it to you (people older than 13 or whatever their aimed demographic was). Yes, they did murder-edit OP, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH IT!!! You can always buy the R2 DVDs and watch it how it was supposed to be viewed. 4) Don't get me started on dubbing. I won't lecture here, but look at some of my older posts in other threads on the topic. 5) FYI, but for future reference, the average anime fan has almost no connection with Japan except from anime and manga. You think the "original version" of anime will sell well? Remember the "original versions" of Shaman King and YuGiOh that Funimation tried to sell. They didn't sell well enough for them to print Vol. 3. 6) The reason for fansubbing is SO THAT ANIME GETS NOTICED!!! By fans, by to-be fans, even by companies. Bleach's license was inevitable, and you can't cry over spilt milk. All we (I also am an avid fan of Bleach) can do is sit tight and hope that a good dub/good extras will come out on the DVDs. I've got no worries, because I'm collecting the R2 DVDs. you may want to do the same... |
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i'll sum up my answers as simple as possible. 1. i don't live in english countries. 2. yes, i know japanese. 3. i agree that licensing is inevitable. (^.^)
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| Well at the end of the day companies are around to make money - so licensing is going to happen. But how many animes have been licensed yet Fan Subs are still made? I find it annoying when things get licensed but there are still people distrubuting like [DB]. But if you look hard enough you can find bootlegged DVD's made by harcore fans that sell whole series dirt cheap, such as GTO $50AUS; good quality, good translations and English dubbings. |
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by Ryousuke_sama
on 2006-03-27 22:36:03
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Yes, many wouldnt know Japanese, but do you have to know Japanese to watch subbed anime? Yes, putting it on dvd allow those that don't have net access to watch anime, but what about those people in countries that does not allow import of anime? What will they do? They would rely on fansubs. I don't care what they do with the anime in their DVDs as long as we are allowed to download our preferred version. But we can't. As long as it is licensed, fansub distribution sites such as Animesuki and some fansub groups will drop them. In that case it's not fair on us fans who totally hates what American anime companies does to anime. Eg. (this always infuriates me) when the Nirvana animation company tried to change Sakura (from Card Captor)'s name into Nikki. Luckily they decided not to but still, that's one of the reasons I HATE licensing. WHAT IS WRONG WITH CHARACTERS HAVING NON-ENGLISH NAMES OR SURNAMES? And WHY do they have to change it? One reason I got from others is that all theses Japanese stuff might be too much for certain viewers. OVERWHELMED BY FOREIGN THINGS MY FOOT!! And there was Tokyopop and their f-up treatment of Initial D. OK, let's say we accept that too much Japanese might be too much for some viewers, but WHY THE HECK DID THEY DELETE THE EUROBEAT MUSIC FOR SOME CRAPPY MUSIC? The Eurobeat are in English, SO WHAT'S THE FREAKING PROBLEM?! Yes, compared with some versions of anime DVD, $25 per dvd is cheap. But to pay the same $25 for a dvd with only 4 eps and the same $25 for a dvd with more than that is SCREWED!! The Hong Kong versions of the DVD can hold the ENTIRE series such as Fullmetal Alchemist for just around 4 DVD while it takes more than that in US. The US ones are RIPOFFS! All in all, I'm not angry about having to pay for anime dvds. But I'm angry about having to wait forever to get the DVDs here (in Perth, OZ) and that the price we have to pay for them is atrocious. Plus the fact that in the middle of downloading a series it gets licensed and it becomes difficult to find sites that will still continue the distribution on the net. |