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Mech Battles!: The Strike versus Heavyarms!
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Here's a mech battle that I thought would be interesting, and not quite as level matched as the Wing Zero vs. The Freedom. In a dual of Kira in the Strike (free to use any of the power packs) versus Trowa Barton in the Heavyarms (Gundam Wing, for all 10 of you who don't know) who would win?, and to start out lets assume Heavyarms is the before-Endless-Waltz version. If it doesn't win the first round then we'll rematch with the Custom version and see who'd win then. I figured in this sort of match we don't have two similar generic MSs fighting (both of them are/can be specialized, like higher-speed, or bigger guns), and two pilots who aren't alike either. Ready? FIGHT!
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| First of all the strike has a ps armor so that it would't affect laser,missiles and machine guns. Unlike the H-arms has no specialties like using his self destruct and has many weapons that the strike would easily evade it. I think this battle would be easy beacuse kira is a coordinator unlike trowa is a natural, if they compare in pilot skills, kira would be the winner and he uses his aile strike gundam to defeat the H-arms. Sorry for the Gundam Wing fans, Seed Rulezzzzz |
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GO!! HEAVY ARMS!!! WWWEEEEHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!  "It MaKes SenSE ThAt YoU TrY HaRd foR THe SaKe oF tHE PeRSoN YOu LoVE.." |
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even though i like GW more than GS, i'll have to be fair. so despite the fact that i would like heavyarms to win, i would have to say that strike would win. heavy arm's weaponry just runs out too fast during times of battle. plus strike has the upper hand with its speed. heavy arms also doesn't have a system in its favor, such as the zero system which can basically predict the enemy's moves and tactics to assure one's victory. i seriously don't think heavy arm's artilary would cause that much damage to strike. Isn't strike made out of a stronger type of gundanium as well? anyways...bullets and such doesn't really cause that much damage to one's gundam..so heavy arms is outta luck there. the only thing that i can think of that would benefit on trowa's behalf, is his missles and saber, if he chooses to install it before the fight. i think a closer match up to zero vs. strike would be epion vs. strike.
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Okay here goes: Heavyarms would probably run out of ammo before causing any serious damage to Strike, but let's not forget who were talking about here: Trowa Barton. He is an excelent pilot and knows how to use what he has at reach. Kira, on the other hand, relies on his coordinator abilities and the fact that the Strike doesn't run out of ammo as fast. Neither of these to pilots really like fighting but Trowa will be more violent. To make this short: Heavyarms vs Strike...Strike wins Trowa vs Kira...Trowa wins Trowa in Heavyarms vs Kira in Strike...When they realize that it's a pretty even match, it'll be a tie. Who do I hope to win?: Trowa in Heavyarms 
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hmm i c ur point mako. and i really wish i could agree with u. but i still think the battle would favor kira ( i really hate to say it!). kira could seriously just wait out the battle until trowa has no amo left. and i know...trowa barton...mr. tough guy right?....i mean really if u think about it...who would win? resourceful trowa, or crybaby, shinji-related kira? yea it would sound like trowa would win to me. and yea i don't think he would hold back. i just think that trowa's gundam proves to his disadvantage. if he was piloting a more powerful gundam, then i think he would have a shot at winning the battle.
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trowa would lose either way if kira were to use full killing power h muahahah trow would be swiss cheese and if kira doesnt trowas gundam would be encapacitated hahahah in a couple of secs man kira is like a god i hope shinn hones his skills more so fights in gundam seed wouldnt be that bland not that they are ALL the times but still.........
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oh no!!! not another crossover mecha debate!!! if you play super robot wars the answer exist there, guys. realy.  |
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If this were a battle, I'd say the Strike will win, because Heavyarms is heavy. When it comes to agility Strike would probably be Aile strike.  |
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on 2006-03-21 14:39:36 (edited 2006-03-21 14:40:07)
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Well, I think you guys are forgetting one major factor here. Although sure, the heavyarms has limited ammo, don't forget the strike does too. Plus, the phase shift armor slowly drains energy anyway on top of it's weapons draining more. My educated guess is either the heavyarms would run out of ammo at about the same amount of time the strike's phase shift armor would kick off, or otherwise trowa's sheer barrage off firepower (which no matter how fast the aile striker is would still not be fast enough to dodge ALL of it) would wear down the sheilds more (along with trowa's ammo) and then end up in the same situation. So basically it would end up Armor Schneider versus Heavyarms's knife. And just to play fair since there's no Gundam Seed technical manual to tell us for sure, we'll assume Heavyarms's gundanium armor is as strong as the Strike's phase shift while active since there's nowhere official that says otherwise. As many of you Seed fans have noticed by now from watching the two series, you probably realized that Kira performs best near the end of his matches when he goes berserk, which by the way is about the time his phase shift is conking out, and Trowa on the other hand uses strong tactics the whole way through. That's why I'm thinking this could be a lot more evenly matched then most of you give it credit. One last thing, Super Robot Wars isn't the answer. Of all the ones I've played, it's too biased to certain series or mechs, especially Nadesico (which I have no problem with since at least Nadesico is cool :) )
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hey remeber when mwula fllaga when piloting the strike sacrificed the whjole mech to deffend the archangel see thats how strong it is =)) it survived a heavy beam weopenry straight on
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on 2006-03-21 15:59:14 |
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Two things: 1) it's spelled Mu La Flaga 2) It DIDN'T survive the blast, it got blown to BITS! Gundanium has taken far worse hits in gundam wing. If you want to count that encounter (even though it WAS destroyed by it) then what about when Lady Une used the Wing Gundam near the end of Gundam Wing to take on the full blast of Libra's main cannon!!!! I guaruntee that THAT was MUCH more powerful than the Lohengrin; It's more than capable of COMPLETELY destroying a ship as large as the Peacemillion, not just destroying one part like the bridge, and btw Peacemillion is a LOT larger than the Archangel, let alone a gundam. Regardless, Gundanium has taken several heavy beam weapon hits and still kept going. I'm trying to be fair and make it easier to debate by saying both armors are the same strength. The only difference between the two then is that Phase-Shift has a time limit.
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And it all depends on what weapon the Strike is equipped with. The long range cannon would be an almost sure victory, because he wouldn't have to worry about getting close. The big sword would require he get close, but he could just wait out the barrage of bullets, then get in close enough for a good slice. With the other weapon pack, he could just hide behind his shield until the barrage ends, then use his gun. I don't believe that the Strike's power would run out before Heavyarms' ammo, depending how Kira fights with it.
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You're forgetting the fact that energy is drained from the phase shift armor every time it is hit, and although I agree with you that the long range cannon would give him a longer range advantage, how would he 'wait out' a barrage of bullets, considering Trowa isn't stupid enough to keep firing if an enemy is under a cover and can't move; doing that would only give Trowa the advantage because the longer the battle wages, the less energy the strike has, and the sooner it'll lose it's armor. Basically, the Sword Striker wouldn't work at all unless he's already at close range, but the Launcher Strike Gundam (the one with the bigger guns) would be much better off against him (Plus Heavyarms has a beamsaber too, so he could block or fend of the strike at least long enough to get some distance and shoot back). Heavyarms though still has several long range missiles and other weapons, and even at a distance the small ones can still serve to annoy/distract Kira from the bigger ones or at the very least clip away bits more from his energy supply; in other words he isn't defenseless at long range.
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highly possible heavyarms custom will win...unless strike uses aile pack and does a suicidal charge
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it was not entirely destroyed dammmnit plus it blocked the attack watch a wing gundam trying to do that and no no other gundam in wing has gotten hits only zero.......
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on 2006-03-25 18:55:35 |
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Whoa, calm down a bit, this is just for fun! @alcoita (but you others should read too): First of all, the very fact that it took as much damage as it did EVEN WHEN it was blocking with its shield only helps prove that it wasn't as strong. Regardless if it wasn't completely destroyed, the cockpit was, the pilot was killed, and it was rendered completely useless, so even if it wasn't COMPLETELY destroyed the pilot was killed anyway so it WAS useless. The Wing Gundam near the end of the series took a direct hit from the side (I went back and analyzed it more closely) and on top of that it WASN'T damaged to the point of total infunctionality AND the pilot (Lady Une in this case) came out unharmed. Secondly, that's a very unfair and also completely false statement to say only the zero was hit in Gundam Wing. Maybe you should rewatch the series again if you think that, and please for the love of all that is holy and for gendou's sake speak in english that people can understand the first time reading (it bugs the mods when you don't).
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