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Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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I see that a lot of kanji have more than one way to read. example: -Kanji for "water" can be read "mizu" or "sui" -Kanji for "fire" can be read "hi" or "ka" etc Can anyone explain to me how to use each of them correctly? |
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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by bishi baka
on 2006-02-19 10:21:49
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I think that mizu would be like the element water and sui would be like...I don't know something else. When you usually tak about water I think you use mizu. As for fire....知りã¾ã›ã‚“. I don't even know if those are the words for fire because I've seen the kanji for fire and those didn't match when I put them in Japanese. Or let me try again. No not there.  |
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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| I think mizu is Japanese and Sui is more for Chinese (in Cantonese Sui is water) |
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There are two ways to read Kanji: Onyomi (Chinese way) and Kunyomi (Japanese way). For example: Kunyomi for æ°´ is mizu, as in mizugi æ°´ç€ Onyomi for æ°´ is sui, as in suiyoubi 水曜日 |
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You would use 'sui' when it is combined with another Kanji. You would use 'mizu' if the Kanji is used by itself with no supporting Kanji before or after it. But there are a few Kanji combinations where 'mizu' is used instead of 'sui'. Example: 'suidou' [æ°´é“] means waterworks; you would use the 'sui' reading (onyomi) of 'æ°´' and the 'dou' reading (onyomi) of 'é“' (michi) to create that word. The same would be said for the words [æ°´ç”°] 'suiden' and [æ°´æ³³] 'suiei'. Notable examples for the 'mizu' reading (kunyomi) would be [雨水] 'amamizu' and the previously mentioned [æ°´ç€] 'mizugi'.    |
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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Yes, it would be preferable to use the kunyomi reading as much as you can. Saying "sui" with no kanji (in other words, romaji) would be kind of a problem, since there is no kanji to represent which one you are referring to. |
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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| Hooo, i didn't know about that onyomi and kunyomi thing... Thx a lot guys |
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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teka nihongo no benkyo- shiten no?? shiterun nara wakatta houga iito omoukedo,, (sorya soudana,,) betsu ni wakatte mo wakannakute mo iin janai no?? -akumade mo atashi kojin no iken desu.. hai..-
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Re: Some Kanji... Nah, lot's of them
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-Kanji for "fire" can be read "hi" or "ka" -When you usually tak about water I think you use mizu. As for fire....知りã¾ã›ã‚“. I don't even know if those are the words for fire because I've seen the kanji for fire and those didn't match when I put them in Japanese. Or let me try again. No not there. yokei na ossekai dakedo,, yup me can read it as "ka" like "ka"sai hoken, or "ka"ji (sunog)
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by ★Rika-chan★
on 2006-08-24 16:34:27
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Weeeeeeeee~~!!!!!!! I'm glad you didn't delete this thread, Sai-san! ★ (^o^)v 笑 It is hard to know how to read kanji correctly, every time... In Japanese class, the teachers never gave us any rules about how to read it.. They just said, "it depends on the surrounding words and the sentence." (―_―;;;) However, there are some small, general rules that you can make: 1) Like rice boks said, you can usually read kanji the Japanese way, if the kanji is by itself. But if the kanji is complemented by other kanji, then you can read it the Chinese way. Ex. 1: ç« ã‚’ 消ã—ã¾ã—ãŸã€‚ (hi wo keshimashita.) ↠(日本) Ex. 2: æ¥é€± ã® ç«æ›œæ—¥ ã¯â€¥ï¼Ÿ (raishuu no kayoubi ha..?) ↠(ä¸å›½) Of course, there are some exceptions... So... in my opinion, it's a matter of memorization! (^∀^;;) 笑 And practice... ã‚‚ã£ã¨ サイã•ã‚“ ã« å½¹ã«ç«‹ãŸãªã㦠ã”ã‚ã‚“ ãï¼ (涙) |
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by レン | Ren
on 2006-08-25 02:51:57
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Katon = Fire Element Suiton = Water Element etc etc etc -_-; No mood for the others.... |