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Spywares Problems
Link | by ruyvlopez on 2005-11-21 22:30:10
Can you say something about keyloggers and spywares. Actually my friend is developing some sort of anti-keylogging system but she has no reference or no hints how a keylogger works.

I want to help her so I post some questions here.

1. EXCEPT using ANTI-SPYWARES, ANTI-VIRUS, or FIREWALLS, can you determine what are the TRUE weakness of a keylogger?

2. I used Keycrypt Anti-Logging software tha I was developed but the problem is Keyloggers can record the information inside the Clipboards ut can't record what information that you paste in the program. It is possible to do this process....

Key Inputs ---> Encryption ---> Keylogger ---> Encryption ---> Password Menu.

3. What is the best way to eliminate Keyloggers or Spywares MANUALLY?

Thanks for the reply................if there is.

(~_~)_V
Ruy Lopez
"OK Ba?"

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by h4xordude on 2005-11-28 04:58:47
Ah, spyware, the war continues. The only real weaknesses I've been able to successfully exploit is that:
1) they have to set up in YOUR ISP in order to infect without virus/spyware blockers automatically detecting it (stop it at your ISP, stop it at your home), and
2) If you monitor your incoming connections and data streams while you're online (It may seem like a big task, but it's really easy) it's virtually impossible for spyware to get into your system using its usual methods of piggybacking datastreams without you noticing and cutting off the stream, and if you're really good, you can let it transfer for long enough to get the IP of the sender and send them back 20 types of hell in a handbasket with a throughtstream loopback tracer program!

As for keyloggers, I don't know a whole lot but I know a little as to how they work. Just to make sure, are you talking about the type that monitor your keypresses when online at certain sites? (If not then I'm not entirely sure what you mean by keylogger.)

I hope that answers at least part of your questions.

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Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by esper on 2005-12-02 17:56:29
A keylogger that is running locally in the background on a machine is not really any different from any kind of hidden application. The part about logging keys just means it catches all of the keyboard events by hooking into windows and store/sends the data somewhere.

Getting rid of these things is a completely different idea from preventing them from occurring. Once they are in your system, they can be very difficult to detect and remove. There are some tools like HijcackThis and automatic anti-spyware scanners that can be of some help, but when it comes down to it you need solid knowledge of Windows and its registry, filesystem and how things install and run to really outsmart them.

If you are talking about some kind of web-based keylogger that records your text activity on a site of some kind, thats another thing altogether.

I'm going to shutup now because I don't know how much I'm actually helping, but spyware/malware/adware/virus are all sort of the same idea. One way or another it comes down to programs doing things you don't want them to do, and that you cannot stop. If there was a one liner answer to how to remove spyware, it wouldn't be a serious issue would it?

It is good to be known, but it is better to be known as strange

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by ruyvlopez on 2005-12-02 22:54:01
Hmmmmmmmmm!

According to the answers that you said to me is very good.

But actually, there is something that keylogger that can do, but it can also be its weakness.

"FOR EXAMPLE IN PACMAN GAME"

If pacman eats gold, its gains points, if it eats slimes, it is its death.

I just developed an Keylogger Jammer in our house in 5 days of researching about keyloggers. But actually I just tested it in 3 different keyloggers that I got in this sites (www.Download.com) and it works, actually, I never tested in other keyloggers.

So now, I want some advance, more agressive, and most stealth keyloggers that you have. Please post the links or sites that I can download that thing. THANK YOU.

(~_~)_V
Ruy Lopez
"OK Ba?"

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by pengiranijam on 2005-12-03 03:28:20
Maybe you just test the simple keylogger applications (can be download so easy way...), but you know the REAL KEYLOGGER... ?

Keylogger in language means catches all of the keyboard events by hooking into windows and store/sends the data somewhere. But, in this case, it might be not just like that. For example, after the keylogger got something importance from you, they have been set to be self-destroy such destroy your computer component (your hardisk can't detect, motherboard can't use after restart and such it). So, don't misunderstood what was keylogger all about.

P/s : Prevent is much better than heal... ^_^

Lalala...

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by ruyvlopez on 2005-12-03 17:36:21
Please! Look at my reply bellow...

I just tested that keylogger already that you want to say. For example, one of the stealth keylogger that I tested can destroy HTML files on a computer, douplicate itself in the cookies and execute itself automatically when the computer start up. I just tested my program agains it, but the keylogger jams and don't infect my PC only when my program runs.

Just I said in my reply, I want some advance, more agressive, and most stealth keyloggers that you have other than that I said. If you got something powerful keylogger, give it to me. If you can't give it to me..................Better post another comments.

Ops! I almost forgot, better check your spelling!!

OK

(~_~)_V
Ruy Lopez
"OK Ba?"
Bring it ON pengiranijam@yahoo.com

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by pengiranijam on 2005-12-03 18:56:21
Hehe... I've just say stright away whats in my mind actually... I'm not force you for anything...


P/ s : I know it someone will be that kind... "OK Ba !"

Lalala...

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by ruyvlopez on 2005-12-03 19:21:07
So! About the keyloggers that you said was false, isn't it?

OK! By the way, you said in your reply that "don't misunderstood what was keylogger all about". But I think you're wrong. I know what keylogger is. And I just want you to say that I researching the weakness of keyloggers since spywares break-out in the NET.

My purpose is to know and spread about the keyloggers' weakness. I'm not joking, I mean it!

So now, I want some advance, more agressive, and most stealth keyloggers that you have. Please post the links or sites that I can download that thing. THANK YOU.

(~_~)_V
Ruy Lopez
"OK Ba?"

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by pengiranijam on 2005-12-05 01:49:23
No. I don't mean like that way at all... Keylogger has many functions actually, not just copy what had you type... ^_^

If you really spread the keylogger weakness, then tell in full explainations on how to shows the keylogger weakness.

My bother have keylogger, I can't do that thing... Thats my brother's copyright@ under his license

Lalala...

Re: Spywares Problems
Link | by ruyvlopez on 2005-12-17 05:56:08
OWS! I don't believe at you because you just speaking out in your mind, NOT BASE IN THE REALITY. Please be honest to some persons. If your brother have a keylogger, better check it up because if that keylogger is so WEAK, better dump it up to the RECYCLE BIN. Heheheheh!

Ow! I almost forgot, to those person that are kind hearted, I want some advance, more agressive, and most stealth keyloggers that you have. Please post the links or sites that I can download that thing. THANK YOU.

Thanks!

(~_~)_V
Ruy Lopez
"OK Ba"

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