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Link | by PAche on 2005-09-14 01:24:16
d'you think humans will be able to figure out what exactly is time before the world comes to and end.

i know for sure the world would come to an end about a few thousand(or million) years later cos then the sun will burn out...so will humans be able to define time by then?

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life never works that way

Re: time
Link | by gendou on 2005-09-14 13:43:54
long LONG before the age of our sun affects our earth, we will have experienced many ice ages resulting in mass extinctions. you know which species die off first in mass extinctions? large carnivors.


Re: time
Link | by wsngosu on 2005-09-14 20:02:25 (edited 2005-09-14 20:03:39)
I'm sorry to tell you this, but human has already figured out what time is 50-10 years ago. Time is rather a complicated matter, there is the cosmological arrow of time, thermodynamic arrow of time, and chronological arrow of time. It has been proven that these arrows point at the same direction, i know this sounds ambiguous but to explain these ideas in detail requires large amount of background information and i would ended up writing a book instead. Basically, you can view time has an extra dimention, time is not absolute, differnt observers measures time differently. I know many people would disagree to many of these ideas, non of them are intuitive. But right now, they are the only valid prospective of the big bang and what happened after the big bang. So let's assume its legitimacy untill it no longer holds.

Re: time
Link | by Evard on 2005-09-15 20:29:09
this is a response to the 2nd poster on this link they died because of the large number of carnivories were coldblooded reptiles also humans are omnivoirs and are currently the most adapable speices also alot of hurbivoirs died due to lack of food.

Death is the gift a blade shall bring, death is the gift a blade shall sing why is it my life sucks so much I mean it really sucks

Re: time
Link | by PAche on 2005-09-16 01:25:26
yes, but the definition of time is...indefinite

otherwise a time machine will be around alrdy

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life never works that way

Re: time
Link | by Necrosis on 2005-09-21 19:33:41
LOL THAT COMMENT REMINDS ME OF HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY. PARDON THE CAPS, CAPS-LOCK KEY KEEPS DOING WEIRD STUFF.

The Sarcasm made a whooshing sound as it flew over his head. -Artemis Fowl -Armadias [OUT]

Re: time
Link | by PAche on 2005-10-02 01:49:05
lady rin, that comment was rather...out of point and discriminative

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life never works that way

Re: time
Link | by hoheshii on 2005-10-02 13:39:46
Because time is said to have no beginning or end, it does not exist. It is merely a mental creation tied to a certain object/event to calculate lifespan.

Wise Man says: "Take a dog off its leash and it will wander."

Re: time
Link | by Hatsumi on 2005-10-02 16:27:49
Well, a geometric line has no beginning or end, but they still exist. Same thing with planes as well. =\

Re: time
Link | by hoheshii on 2005-10-02 22:21:29 (edited 2005-10-02 22:23:11)
Infinity only exists in the mind. In reality, geometric lines and planes do have a beginning and an end. The beginning is where the pencil hits the paper, and the end is where the pencil leaves the paper. Our mind creates the image of an endless line/plane for the purpose of calculation. One cannot touch a line or a plane because they do not exist. If a physical object was able to go on forever, it would not only have no beginning or end, it would have no middle, front, back, inside or outside, thus making it non-existent.

Wise Man says: "Take a dog off its leash and it will wander."

Re: time
Link | by PAche on 2005-10-03 05:42:06
so basically, humans have yet to find the loose ends to the line "time"

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life never works that way

Re: time
Link | by »»Ran on 2006-02-07 03:44:44
About the question "Does time really exist?"
That question is really nice to answer, especially when you answer it philosophically.

What you perceive with your senses true, according to the determinists like John Locke and Aristotle.

As for my answer, since we perceive that something "flows," time must therefore exist. But for the rationalists like Spinoza and Descartes, you must answer questions with your reason, not withyour senses.

As for my answer for thes side of the rationalists When you think that something gets older, getting worn away, or moving fast, when you use your reason, you will arrive at the same answer: TIME DOES EXIST.

Is there any other reason to disprove that time doesn't exist? Tell me and let us try to answer it with reason and with our senses.

Re: time
Link | by Jake on 2006-02-07 04:37:23 (edited 2006-02-07 04:39:38)
If time really does exist, then it must be based upon some mathematical equations. And because time flows always forward, it must have a positive value.

But what if you can decode that equation and derive from it an equation that would reverse time and get a negative answer, would we be able to create a time machine?

Like the discovery of the anti-particles were based upon a mathematical equation:
X^(2)=4
X can either be positive or negative. So where the hell is the negative value of the time line?


Re: time
Link | by gendou on 2006-02-07 13:32:29 (edited 2006-02-07 13:33:51)
Jake, if you want to understand the relation of time to space, lookup Schrodinger's Equation.

There is no way to build a time machine because its principals violate basic causality.


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