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by Spraypaint
on 2005-07-30 18:01:14
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Do you honestly think that there are other lifeforms? I would probably say yes because we as humans shouldn't be the luckiest...
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by EricSoLazy
on 2005-07-30 18:05:29
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There are alot of odds agaisnt the formation of life, Earths conditions were just right... but with the billion of planets in this galaxy alone... thes odds are there are a couple out there that will support life... but i dont think it is as abundant as in star trek
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life forms other than humans? um.... cats? 
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lol,cats...anyways,I'm thinking that YES there's gotta be some other type of life out there than just besides us. They don't have to be sentient,but with the odds,I'm goin for at least other planets with single celled organisms.  |
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I'm willing to bet there are. I mean the universe is so vast with all the planets and all. Why would Earth be the only one?  |
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I think it is quite possible because diffrent life forms like plant need diffrent things to live than us so if there is life on other planets they may need diffrent living condition we have only looked at what supports our life and there could be noncarbon based life forms even though that goes agains all of scince
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death is the gift a blade shall sing
why is it my life sucks so much I mean it really sucks
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| I think that is not only possible, but maybe truth, the life doesn`t need to bee like in our planet, perhaps there is life with another kind of organisms, that would die in our planet |
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| i can tell you the name of another lifeform (fish) |
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by Rukia_chan
on 2005-08-19 23:37:58
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| i'll have to say yes although i don't expect to see other life forms like the green big eyed aliens ^_^ they say every living organisms need O2 to live like us, but there aren't any planet suffuicient enough with O2 ...but hey the universe is BIGGG...maybe there are some other places like earth and maybe the aliens doesnt need oxygen 2 live maybe they need somethin like ...what..Co2?So the aliens also consider earth as a unbearable planet.. |
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Allow me to add some input. We have found evidence of life on Mars, a less than ideal place. The amount of planets that we are able to even guess at the ability is rather small. But still there are several of those which could have life. It is pathetic how small of a view of the universe we have. There are millions of other galaxies and billions of stars. There is life out there for sure the odds favor it. The chances of us seeing it are very small in fact just forget about, you won't. The amount of forms that they can take is limitless. evolution is a flip of the coin don't think that if the earth started over that we would get the same result There are just too many things that can happen you never know Too bad science can't get the funding to really find a high power fuel source to maybe let us travel outside our solar system. But that's the way it is.  |
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by IndigoKrow
on 2005-08-28 21:44:12
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the odds are actualy rather small. consider: Muliply the chances of an enourmous star forming capable of producing vast amounts of heavy elements (E) by the chance that when this star explodes that all the heavy matter will come together to form a slid planet (P). then multiply that by the odds that the star that is hosting the planet is neither to big (and thus short lived) or to small (creating a wildly erratic orbit) (S). Then multiply that by the chances that that planet is in just the right position to recieve just the right amount of light for life (L). Then multiply that that atmospheric conditions do not sufocate or block the sun (G) and finally multiply that by the odds of there being correct sustenace (F). We find ourselves with the equation (E)(P)(S)(L)(G)(F). Those are the actual odds of there being organisms on other planets. There aremore actors if youwant them to beintelligent =D |
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| I believe there are other lifeforms besides earth. I don't believe in the entire universe that earth is the only place where life exists. |
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IndigoKrow, I'm going to have to disagree with you again. The odds are EXTREMELY small; no one knows what the odds are exactly but everyone agrees they're freakin' tiny. But even if the chance is only one in a billion (pretty dam small!), there are trillions upon trillions of stars and planets in the universe, thus the probability is HIGH that there alien lifeforms (before someone can say it, I dont mean cats!) out there. The odds are even good that there are some that are intelligent. Of course, the odds that we'll ever find 'em are pretty nonexistent...  |
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I think the current beliefs on extraterristrial life is too Earth-centric. I mean, as others have said here, why do scientists think that all life must be similar to ours? why must every living thing need oxgen or need water. The reason for that according to them is that water is the best solvent and thus essential for life processes. But c'mon, surely alien life dont have to be like Earth animal's chemistry? And whats to say that water is the best solvent and the only one to support life? And why the heck is it that all advanced alien life must be like humanity's and at humanity's level? I mean, the universe have been around for a LONG TIME, any alien race worth their salt would have time to develop advanced tech. Plus what's to say that alien life have same lifespan as ours? Like I said, every thing about life outside our solar system are too Earth-centric |
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Good point Seki. Extraterrestrial life might be like ours but might just as well be wildly different. I don't think anyone's really tried to address that so far on this thread. |
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on 2005-08-29 12:02:27 (edited 2005-08-29 12:03:24)
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Life based on the carbon atom is one form. How about silica or hydrogen? After all the human body operates on electro-chemical stimilus and reaction from a biological point of view. What about silica? There is no reason there can't be life based on silicon. I think for life to exist there has to be an electrical stimuli used as a method of sending and processing information. I find fine motor skills are also necessary for intellegent life. The ability to control materials at the miscrospic and sub-microscopic level. An intellegent creature that can't build a cell phone can't get into space. As for life being like ours, maybe not physically. However my guess is that out there somewhere is Ydal Nir wondering if she should colour/polish her {hair, tentacles, scales, feathers, crystal facets, etc} enjoying a moment of peace and quiet that is shattered by same screaming question I imagine mothers all over the universe hear everyday, "Hey mom? what's for dinner"? Life on other worlds also includes civilizations and I think it's the civilizations where we shall find the most similarity. A rise from primitive being making the same discoveries from fire to steam then electricity, nuclear power, all of it. Discovering war, trade, politics. Who funds the UFOs seen in your night sky. If we accept the laws of physics as we know them to apply everywhere and that we haven't discovered them all; then all civilizations have to grow in this manner regardless what their life is made from.  |
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by IndigoKrow
on 2005-08-29 15:02:42
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| i may have been a liuttle unclear in my earlier post. I meant theat the chances were 1 in (E)(P)(S)(L)(G)(F). those are low odds technically. They might be relatively high though considering, as oldcrow said, the number of stars in the galaxy. |
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| Rin, that is your Earth-centrism talking. Who says that all civilisations must start from fire to steam to electricity? I dont think history in an alien race will be similar to ours. I think its the Chaos theory which says the same thing does not happen twice or more, it's always different. And whose to say the alien race would have persecuted those who tries to make discoveries? I mean, if some the best minds in European history (Galileo, Copernicus, Archimedes) werent persecuted by their authorities, our advances would have been much greater. Yes, all civilisations must face conflict somewhere along the way but politics I dont think so, especially if there is no point for politics in their culture. And who's to say that our laws of physics are universal? The universe is vast, what's to prevent it from doing a 'in your face' kind of thing by making our 'laws' looks like a scientific infant's ideas? But there is two things that would be similar in all alien races, one which is to want to progress materialistically in tech and power, or because like us they want to know why they exist in this universe. |
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On the other hand, Seki, who's to say that technology is the natural result of intelligence? Our ancestors lived for thousands of years as hunter-gatherers and even after climactic conditions improved from the ice age, it still took thousands of years to progress to our current technology. Might technological advancement be almost as much of a statistical fluke as intelligent life? Also, there are many circumstances in which a civilization might not be able to develop technology. Imagine a world with no trees, hence no wood to make tools from or burn for fire. Imagine a race of aquatic beings, who are perfectly intelligent but are unable to make fire and thus unable to forge metal or create electricity. Imagine a race whose "hands" are simply not dextrous enough for advanced uses. Or a race that is intelligent but lacks all of humanity's sense of curiosity and thus never experiments with anything beyond the most basic stone tools? I could go on but I'm getting bored. Anyway it's just as earth-centric as anything rin said to assume that an alien race would discover technology at all. We can't make assumptions about the complete unknown. |
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Oldcrow, you are also doing the Earth-centric thing. Why would fire be the universal factor in all civilisation? and why does it have to be wood that makes fire? There are always technology, even a simple stone as a tool is a technology, I'm not saying all planets must have stones but as an example that something so simple is still a technological achievement. technology is a result of intelligence because without a conscious mind which seeks to modify the world around them to their own advantage, there can be no technology or civilisation. Civilisation and tech achievement came about because of the need to modify the environment to the conscious being's own advantage. Even the Aborigines of Australia are intelligent life even though their tech is simple stone age tools. It's because they saw no more need to modify the environment around them hence no civilisation on par with the rest of the world. |