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The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by kuhraziemike on 2011-01-17 02:58:29
Dear precious humans,

I..... don't really feel so good, I..... am scared. The story behind my reasons are too long to describe, but something is EXTREMELY wrong with the post-modern world.

How do I say this......... Hmmmmmm, but, you see....

Ever since GOD-CONDEMNED OSAMA AND HIS GOD-CONDEMNED AL-QAEDA hit the TV on that fateful Spt. 11 (YES, I was there watching the two towers collapsing before my own eyes in front of Malaysian national television), I knew that modern history has ended and post-modern history is born. (I remember partially the feeling of the towers collapsing. What I at least could remember was that I was filled with shock and awe at the collapsing towers and hatred of MOTHERF****** OSAMA)

All right, I admit. I AM a Muslim. But, I AM NOT A FRIGGIN' GOD-CONDEMNED TERRORIST. You know, I can finally understand how you guys feel. After skimming through history, one can actually start to realize the violent madness that surrounds ALL THREE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS.

I mean, the Jews have a violent, mortifying and sad history of countless deaths; of which I empathize.

Then you have Christianity with violent histories in its early days and during medieval Christendom.

And now you have Islam with its horrendous and appalling terrorist attacks, honor killings, and all sorts of radical mumbo-jumbo.

Seriously, WHO THE F*** HIJACKED HUMAN LOGIC AND REASONING?

Is it the so-called 'DEVIL'? I don't believe in such a thing save that the 'DEVIL', is of course the evil side of you.

Could it be IRRATIONAL AND PURELY LITERALISTIC INTERPRETATIONS OF RELIGIOUS TEXTS?

Or PHOBIA perhaps?

I remain agnostic.

I am NOT LIKE THEM AND NEVER GONNA BE ONE. OVER MY DEAD BODY.

In fact, due to the rise of such irrational radicalism, violence and incessant paranoia and phobic responses to the 'supposed' image of GOD, I believe that I too am in a state of paranoia.

Am paranoid of what you might say, I FEAR FOR MY OWN LIFE.

I no longer know what to say in order to change the minds of literally thousands, or perhaps millions of such people, but at the very least I can at least try to help others to not be deceived by such interpretations of life as to not include even a neutron's worth of reason and logic. IN actual fact, it makes life all the more meaningless; and beauty is lost....................................

I am highly skeptical as to who is to respond to this short textual display of paranoia, but if there is anyone out there willing to at least share with me some of his/her thoughts, memories, life stories, emotions, feelings, knowledge e.t.c pertaining to this matter, at least I know that I am not alone.......................... and at least have a lower chance of breaking down to hysteria.....

Sorry for acting out a bit negatively, I, I, I, I am just so scared and anxious. I actually fear for my own life, me my life. It's like the first time in many, many months since I actually feared for it.


Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by Wolf on 2011-01-17 12:46:19
You pretty much summed up a lot of the reasons why I quit religious philosophy all together. In the beginning of my college career I committed myself to figuring out what it was to be human in the most righteous kind of fashion in this contemporary society. Through all of my study of religions I found out that the spiritual portions of many religions are pure and good intentioned. It is only through the interpretations of people who had my same goal in mind that the dogmatic portions of these religions become twisted, dated, and malicious.

People are not meant to agree with one another and it is this fundamental behavior that stops a utopian sense of peace to reign over man. So my self-serving quest to find a righteous way to live through religion ended. In short I don't follow any religions because of the doctrines which I would be forced to follow or even just be stereotyped as following. That doesn't mean I don't believe in something greater.

As cheesy and cowardly as it sounds, in a word, we have lost our gentleness. We have lost the ability to love other people's faults because we have allowed others to do the thinking for us in many situations. Love starts from within and spreads outward unto the world we see. What we see, ourselves, not what others see because they view this world differently. Even if we disagree with them, through conversation, we can come to an understanding because everything is circumstantial in this world.

Your concern for humanity in general and willingness to even discuss these topics with people is commendable. In the US people avoid these conversations like the plague. If I can say anything it's that we are imperfect and life is a struggle, sometimes in the ugliest fashions, to survive. Follow your heart and maybe your example will sway the minds of people around you.

Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by samsonov on 2011-01-18 05:46:33
@kuhraziemike: sometimes when I watch the news I do get the "wtf" feeling from the events around the world and on my own country; together with a sense of powerless in face of the same events.

At height of our civilization, we hardly are any different than the men that have destroyed Baghdad in 1258. Although we're far more educated, thus more deadly that they could ever imagine on their wild dreams. Don't know if it's accurate, but it's said that the current nuclear stock pile is capable of destroying humanity many times over.

With or without religion, we keep our irrationality high. Communist Russia killed as much [or more] as the old Tzars. The same happened with China. It was during the Golden Age of Athens, in which were produced many of the most important works of greek literature, that the bloody Peloponnesian War started.

So I guess, like Wolf said, the only hope is that you can influence ppl around you

Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by kuhraziemike on 2011-01-18 16:26:37 (edited 2011-01-18 16:27:20)
Dear responders,

Thank you for your thoughts. I am slightly relieved. Indeed there is barely anything we can do. In fact, one way that I could think up off in changing the world is to become a multi-quadrillionaire. Although that is probably impossible but that is at least one of FEW ideas that I can come up with at the moment.

You know, just to gain equality, freedom, knowledge and a peaceful and prosperous life, millions were slaughtered. From the French Revolution, the American Revolution, Napoleonic War (though he became grandiose), Alexander the Great's campaigns (he too became grandiose), and so many others. People still never learn from World War 2 and The Great War (WW 1).

I guess there is nothing left for me to say but, thanks. At least I get too bond closer with you rational, logical, sensible and knowledgeable people.

I am not sure, but I guess that today, friendship, no matter how devoid it is of intimacy or closeness plays a vital role, particularly where the friendships are born out of the same opinions e.t.c of logic, reasoning, knowledge, peace, tolerance, understanding, morals and ethics.

I guess that it is SAFE to say that G.O.D IS PISSED OFF.

(I really hope that people would open up and post something here. It gives me the impression that the world is comprised of 75% ignobile [Ignorant people] )


Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by on 2011-01-29 03:29:54
This may sound very simple. I have not conducted any research (actively) on this matter. I am not as highly educated as most of the people here. And I'm not very old to say I have experience either....

But you have to think about what those radicals have been through as well. Would they kill people just like that? They are hurt, they have been oppressed, discriminated against, been treated like sh**, they have cried, grieved, bled over it, but who can save them? Only themselves, so they picked up weapons and fight. Are they evil? No, they just want to live in peace.


As people who can live in our own house, eat what we want and get to access this internet as easily as turning on your computer, what do we know of their suffering?

But then, are those powerful people at the top of the world evil for oppressing them? Now that's not the case either, they are just doing what's best in their country's interest. So no one's evil...who do we blame now?

I can only say that, we have only ourselves to blame. Everyone's acting out of their own interest. That's just natural. No one's hurting other people.... intentionally.

We might not notice, but if someone gets something, someone else might be losing it. Its a deadly race to get comfort and luxury, its a cruel race where those who fall will be stepped upon and trampled and nobody cares, or even notices. Sometimes those trampled people can rise up and continue the race, or even aiming to take down others out of revenge. What I just said might sound crazy, but that's just the system this world is running on. Survival of the fittest one might say.


What do you think can fix it? Its simple, but almost impossible. Everyone just have to be more compassionate, more considerate to others. Sounds corny? If you think so, then it is people like you who is making it harder for the world to change...

If you want to change the world, you have to change too...Can't just wait for it to *poof*, happen.


Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by samsonov on 2011-01-31 02:27:54
@Wizard: "but then, are those powerful people at the top of the world evil for
oppressing them? Now that's not the case either, they are just doing what's best
in their country's interest. So no one's evil...who do we blame now?"

So when Hitler and his ideological peers decided to carry on the massive killing
of millions of those perceived as a burden to the State, like jews, gipsies and
communists , he wasn't evil at all? So wasn't Stalin evil when decided that they
should deport ethnic groups, arrest ppl for expressing their thoughts or promote
the holodomor?

Nor were evil the south african leaders that actively promoted Apartheid policy,
nor the american leaders on their Vietnam War or their recent invasion of Iraq?

They were evil, they hurt ppl intentionally. Examples wouldn't lack of sheer evil
disguised as good intentions, like the rhetoric of civilizatory mission that was
used to justify the european control over so many areas of the planet, so a
handful of business ppl could get even more richer, while their own nationals were
living in deep poverty :c

Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by kuhraziemike on 2011-02-01 05:58:57 (edited 2011-02-01 05:59:50)
One of the main things in life is to always seek forgiveness, make amends and continue to improve oneself. I hope to seek everyone's forgiveness if I ever said anything wrong or acted like a zealot or just plain representing the facts wrong and being plain rude and tactless.

Yeah, I guess it is true to be neutral in many cases. :D

And, yeah, Wizard, I can not feel how the oppressed feel, but I can understand their plight. Also, regarding your statement of the rulers trying to do their best, no, not ALL rulers are trying to do their best. Hundreds have invoked religion to justify their 'acts' (No other non-obscene way to describe the acts).

Also, if anyone of you is like catching up on news regarding the state of affairs in Iran or Pakistan or Egypt or Tunisia or Palestine or Israel or Sudan, please send messages..... I'd like to talk with someone, you know, it gets pretty lonely all by myself with few people to talk to regarding things like this.

I'll also be REALLY happy if anyone managed to read Karen Armstrong's book entitled The History Of God or Tarek Fatah's Chasing A Mirage or other such works.........


Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by richwiggles on 2011-02-01 21:27:07
@Wizard: It's true that not all rulers are trying the best for their country. It's possible that what they do could probably have some selfish reason behind it all. Its possible that they just really don't like [blank] and feel like doing something about it.

@kuhraziemike: I have read your previous posts, but I can't really reply to them all since I'm currently a little mind-effed.
But in reply to what you said about forgiveness and such, not everybody fully understands it. There ARE many people in this world that have a far lower level of education compared to others. This could mean that they lack the ability to use critical thinking and process their thoughts carefully before acting.
There is a possibility that they may have lived in an unhealthy environment with excessive violence that simply fuels their anger to a level that could endanger us all.
Not everybody was taught the same things as everybody else in the world, therefore not everybody will believe the same things.

I do agree that trying to set an example for others is a good thing to do. Although it changes only a tiny fraction of the whole situation, it's something to put your hopes into. Who knows? Some day it might spread like mad.

Regardless of this, it's still beyond difficult to try and "fix" things. If there is a positive influence, there's going to be a negative influence as well.
There's not much of a way to change that unless you had some kind of satellite that killed all the "negative" thoughts and replaced them with "positive" ones (or what you feel is positive) and make everybody think the same way.

There's nothing really to fear about any of this. Sure you might be a little frightened when you become aware of these things, but it's just natural.


Re: The Sum Of All Fears. (NOT the novel/movie)
Link | by kuhraziemike on 2011-02-02 00:18:58
Hehehehee....

I really like those new siggys and images of yours Komaro....... :D :D :D :D :D

BTW, uhm, how exactly do you input the picture at the bottom of the post? I AM SERIOUSLY TRYING to figure out how to place an image there.... So how, with all due respect, please show me how to even PLACE an image there...... It's driving me mad....... Ahahahaa *Fluffy Clouds*......


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