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Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by Tsu on 2009-12-12 03:35:38 (edited 2009-12-12 03:40:46)
Something has been bothering me for a while but yeah... the title says it all. Would someone enlighten me? Please feel free to share your thoughts about the subject.

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by angel_of_stone on 2009-12-12 11:01:20
That depends how you define a sin. In the biblical sense a sin is any violation of a religious moral or principle. Envy, or jealousy, is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

By the more modern sense of the word, a sin can be any act that you find regrettable. So if one feels bad about being jealous of another, then yes it could be a sin.

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Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-12-12 11:47:42
Jealousy is not a sin, to me it's more of one's emotion and how one feels at a given situation.
If it was a sin, a bunch of us, if not all would be damned because just about everyone gets jealous over something.

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Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by Tsu on 2009-12-12 17:26:20
I agree with you da. For me jealousy only sprouts spontaneously, do you know what I mean?
This may sound like an over generalization but us humans are never really contented with what we have.
We always want more, and want what we do not have.

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-12-12 23:44:59
Yeah I know what you mean. Who doesn't always want more.
Even if you're truly happy, there's always something that you want changed or added in your life.

Though I don't want to classify everybody together, I think if you have love and family, that's all you need.
Of course the only thing missing in my life right now is Mrs. DA, but yes I'm content with what I have, for now... :P

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Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2009-12-13 02:39:04
Can we control the feeling of jealous?
no. it like pops up from nothing and we can't control it. spontaneous, just like Da said.
so, it can't be a sin, unless sin can reach what we can't control.

the feeling of jealousy is not a sin. our reaction after the feeling ,then, will became the factor to determine it.


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by Tsu on 2009-12-14 01:10:33
What is the difference between jealousy and wanting more?

And wait a minute, Stoney said that if you are jealous and if you feel bad about it, then it could be a sin.
Is it really a sin if a person knows that being jealous is, let's say, bad?
Doesn't that mean that that person has good judgment, because he knows that being envious of another person is bad and that he should be contented with what he has?

And yes I agree with you, Schaz.
Personally, I don't really think jealousy is bad.
The things that we do in order to get the things that we want determines whether the effect of jealousy is good or bad.

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by devils-angel on 2009-12-14 09:18:01
Jealousy is just a feeling; wanting more is totally different.

If you're jealous about something and feel bad about it, doesn't necessarily mean it's a "sin".
It could also mean, self-consciously, you just feel guilty, even though your heart is in the right place.
You can't ignore not being jealous or avoid that emotion. It's something difficult to control or handle.
Also jealousy can even be considered normal, which to me it is since everyone is jealous over something.
Doesn't make it bad in any sense, way, or form. In fact It's just the flow of our lives and feelings inside.

I think everybody, occasionally will desire something more.
More money, more clothes, more friends, more anything and everything.

I remember seeing Bruce Almighty, and Morgan Freeman's character (God) said something pretty right,
"since when does anyone have a clue with what they want?"

You can be totally happy in life, but always wish something's different or want something different. It's not bad, just normal and that's okay.

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Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2009-12-14 10:16:17 (edited 2009-12-14 10:17:49)
My opinion on jealousy :

Jealousy is a feeling, a certain emotion that can make you do unimaginable
stuffs towards the person that you feel strangely angry when you look at
that person's success and well-being.Its just that certain 'thing' that drives
people to go nuts and do something that will later hurt themselves.
Its quite a sin in a way because it might lead to misunderstanding
or much more worse than that.Its derived from anything that you cannot
achieve and yet found out that others are much more fortunate than you are
in life...But it can also lead us towards amazing achievements if we can control it.

Therefore, to cure jealousy, is to just let it go.Try your hardest at being
yourself and not thinking about what people had done and what you had not.
Its better to look at our strength than weakness.But don't think too
highly of ourselves because it can lead to other physiological diseases.
Basically, its the control of the mind that keeps us going.

So, better try harder to succeed, than trying harder to make others
fail.

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2009-12-16 16:47:07
I have to say I agree with DA on this one...

Being a high school student you're always dealing with jealousy. Weather it be your own or someone else's.

It is human nature to feel like you want more. Even if you don't intend to get it for yourself. You can be jealous of all sorts of things, which really just makes it a feeling. I am often jealous of how Anime Characters always lead the most interesting lives. I know that my life will never become that of an anime character and my heart is still in the right place so in that case jealousy really isn't a sin.

There is a type of jealousy I think is bad, but not necessarily a sin. That is when you are jealous of another's possessions and you are ready to start drama about that person just to make yourself feel better. That kind of jealousy is petty and really just infuriating. If you know what I mean.


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by Tsu on 2009-12-16 23:54:52
That was quite inspiring Da, haha. Hear hear!

I agree with you Rai, I think that people should start looking at themselves before looking at someone else. I mean, if you look at someone else and start being jealous and envious of them, and not do anything about it, then nothing will happen to you. But if you look at yourself, then you would know what to improve in order to be satisfied, you know. I also dislike people who make fun of others and try their best at making their enemies fail just so they can succeed and win. In a competition, what you do is do your very best to win, you shouldn't mind the other person; you don't sabotage the person just so you'd have an easier time winning.

Riza, oh man. I've seen that type of jealousy already. It's happened time and again.


Another question:

What if the thing that you're jealous about is something you know you can never have (for example, a sibling, or a father/mother, considering you're an only child or if you're adopted)?

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2009-12-29 03:46:02
for me its depend sometimes envy is sin sometimes not? its depend on what you act!


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by ulyssesdragon on 2010-01-10 20:34:59
Envy is a sin. Envy is jealousy towards that which you do not deserve or did not achieve yourself. It leads to unwarranted anger towards those you are envious of. In terms of the Seven Deadly Sins, Envy is the only "Deadly Sin" that does not offer any form of pleasure. (Unless it leads to wrath, as it usually does)

Schaz mentioned (sorry for paraphrasing) that it cannot be a sin if we cannot control it. I have to disagree. I believe any sin is a lack of control. All the Deadly Sins are due to a lack of control. Now you can sin knowing what your doing, but that is also a lack of prudence.

The original question asks if jealousy is a sin.

My answer is that jealousy is not a sin. Envy is. Jealousy is more like resentment over something one deserves more.

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Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2010-01-11 02:57:06
jealousy is just a manifestation of love. its normal to get jealous but being overly jealous is bad. XD bad for u and ur heart! hahaha!


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by on 2010-01-11 03:02:18
jealousy is just a temporary want for something
that somebody already owns and u don't have..

it can't be avoided..
to all persons in this world..
so my point is, its not a sin..

vie-san is correct over jealousy
is bad for u and ur health.. jaja


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by youkokun on 2010-02-24 18:08:46
Jealously messes people up. It creates only negative emotions and fosters hatred where it is mostly undue. I think it is a sin, if that's what it leads to. I was jealous of somebody's talents for a long time, and I can tell ya it didn't do anything for me! lol

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by hello on 2010-02-24 20:07:29
Its something you have that I want. Wait, no, that's envy. But that's also jealousy?

I guess envy = jealousy. However, I see envy different from jealousy.

Well, media changed our thoughts. Envy => materialistic things such as iphone, nice car, the whole dragonball tankoubon collection. Jealousy => non-material things such as love, popularity, fame.

I guess jealousy is an evolved form of envy. While envy can be of neutral status, jealousy brings negative emotions to make the person under the influence to do something (vandalism, gossip, betrayal).

And yes, you will get jealous if your co-worker who does the same job as you somehow gets a nice Mercedes while you drive your garbage ford, so it doesn't just apply to love and women. Don't worry. I fight off jealousy as to not be tempted to key the car.

No.

Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by hikarixmoon on 2010-09-06 20:12:48
Nope not to me.
I think you should be allow to be jealous. Is when your envy that makes a different,


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by Mizore on 2010-09-17 09:55:01
just a manifestation of love, indeed.


Re: Is jealousy a sin? (What is jealousy to you?)
Link | by velaithan on 2010-09-22 06:54:11
It depends, there are generally two type of jealousy. The one played in good sport, it is never wrong to be ambitious and to strive for more, as long as one puts a fair play in displaying the emotion. It is kind of good actually, rivalry is a form of mutual jealousy in which both craves to be better than the other and would suggest further improvement and development which is highly advantageous to both party. But, when one starts to conceive a wrong type of jealousy, the irrational one in which one would kill or harm to defeat the other results not only in harmful and unlawful conduct, it will be a double edged sword to both the bearers, one blinded by jealousy would not be able to be satisfied by his or her own achievements and will be forever haunted by his or her incapability to be the other person. This is also why jealousy/envy had been classified as one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

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