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Realism or Romanticism?
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I had that in my last English lesson... I am just curious to know. Realism means that you accept, see and deal with situations as they really are. You are not influenced by or emotions or false hopes. In contrat to realism romanticism mean that you see situation in a more exciting and interesting way as they really are. So what kind of person are you? A realist or a romanticist? Personally I belong to the realism because I think it is more important to deal with situations in a neutral way. It´s just more useful coz in you everyday life it is not necessary to think in a idealistic way. For example in school: You are not able to solve a mathematic problem by using your fantasy. Please feel free to answer :D  |
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on 2009-03-06 13:06:31 (edited 2009-03-06 13:07:38)
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some where in between. I don't know how to explain it clearly. I think ingenuity requires a lot of imagination. problem solving just happen to be the easiest to me when I was still studying even now at work and at play. engineers always say there is romance in machinery, "or something like that", and you just told me why. if all else fails just stick to whats been tried and tested. |
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I think you are missing the point of romanticism, likun. your wording presents realism as the more practical, useful, favored answer. 
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on 2009-03-06 17:28:37 |
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I'm more of a realist than a romantic. I believe that emotions are only barriers to intellectual advancement and evolution (somehow this belief relates to stoicism). I believe that creativity and imagination is important, too, but not as important. |
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on 2009-03-06 21:52:10 (edited 2009-03-09 23:13:18)
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I think we need a better definitions for these terms. To say realists "are not influenced by emotions" would be a vast exaggeration and an impossibility. Likewise your definitions skew realism as being the better option of the two, you imply romantics are controlled by emotion and characterized by "false hope." I believe the underlying principles of realism are well understood, so I will not address them, however I would like to attempt (however poorly) to offer a better definition of romanticism so we may have a better discussion. SO without further delay, here is my case for the Romantic: Whilst you did touch upon the sentimentality at the core of the romantic, the phraseology was rather vague and oversimplified. Romanticism does emphasize intuiton, imagination and feeling above purely deductive reasoning, but not to any degree of rejecting 'intellectual advancement' of any sort (well maybe in the 18th/19th centuries that was the case, but not necessarily now). An analogy with with the Romantic artistic movement may serve well in demonstrating the philosophic side, this movement tried to demonstrate the grandeur and awe inflicting aspects of Nature. Its about an aesthetic appreciation of the subjective experience through enervation of tradition, of an escape from the drawl and pains in life by retreat to a more picturesque and and distant means of existence and thought. As a Romantic I find beauty and value in those metaphysical and spiritual traditions whose devotees keep in touch with themselves and emotions through these methods, even though these traditions be not true by realistic, scientific standards. Romanticism is marked by finding sources of wonder and aesthetic value in the world, finding reasons for optimism in the human condition and living a life joyously; it avoids the cold, hyper-rational, objectivising trends of pure Realist thought. I would rather be led astray on occasion by my feelings, lose a few opportunities for advancement in the world so I can live my life attempting to create beauty, I believe that if you banish these sentimental influences and substitute them with nothing but facts and quantifiable material goals you are taking away from the experience that is being human. (note: embracing emotion DOES NOT mean being controlled by it in an irrational manner, I for one rarely ever act out in anger or joy and do something regrettable. Nor do I mean to imply rejecting scientific or objective realities and living in a completely fantastic realm detached from the world is a Romantic doctrine. Likewise I realize Realism may not be so singular in its dismissing the subjective. People tend to fall in the gray areas of the spectrum between the two positions, so let us of neither side be quick to judge the other by the positions of extremists)  |
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on 2009-03-07 04:19:10 |
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Realism. But the world would be lame. And everyone needs romance in life. So I guess somewhere in between.  |
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on 2009-03-07 17:42:07 |
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rocketg, you had presented a very outstanding argument! It actually had dissolved some of my misconceptions about the subject matter. But still, I cling more to believing in stoicism than romanticism. |
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on 2009-03-08 23:55:25 |
As for me I'm 40% Realism & 60% Romanticism.     |
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@rocketg thank you for balancng the topic, I too felt that realism seemed to be made the favorable choice here at first. and with that said, I would go more along with romanticism, simply because my art style strives to convey emotion and feelings, so....yeah. I'm not really the sort of artist who likes to paint the most realistic picture of a tree, or draw a person as if it were a photo. so,Romanticism, for artistic reasons. edit: one could go as far as to claim that some anime/manga have traits characteristic of romanticism.
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on 2009-03-10 13:28:46 |
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"I believe that emotions are only barriers to intellectual advancement and evolution". I have to disagree. I think most inventions were made with love and passion. actually I think many things in this world were made by romanticists. like the tallest and longest structures. they were trying to make things a bit more exiting, and if they were not interested they why would they even spend a lot of time and effort into making them. @ray I think most anime have traits characteristic of romanticism. after all the aim is always making them more exiting and interesting to both viewers and creators. I think creators also gets exited and interested on their work. most of them say that they are looking for more challenges. after all those things a said I think most people would be part romantic. you won't be doing some thing if you have no interest in them. probably we are either more realist or more romanticist. |
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Are they even antagonistic? IMO, realism and romanticism aren't a topic for discussion because the terms mean mutually complementary concepts. Realism without emotional influence is just robot-like logical heuristics, whereas plain emotionally-fueled behavior is just mute subordination to a fickle impulse. In sum, I am an Aristotelian in this respect. I follow the golden mean in this case, and use whichever comes handy in the situation.  --> |
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on 2009-03-11 02:54:46 |
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Hmm a few research I did and I found out that Romanticism plays a part in Realism.Feeling emotional towards a particular person isn't mythtical or anything but reality hence Romanticism is part of Realism. |
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on 2009-03-11 09:59:44 |
Is that true? hmm...cus lately I've been confuse of the difference between Romanticism and Realism. 
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I am sorry that I defined Realism and Romanticism in a wrong way. It was just the way I have learnt in my english lesson last week. ._. Quite depressing learning it in a wrong way. Thx for correcting me... |
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There's no reason you can't be a romantic and still realistic.
If each mistake being made is a new one, then progress is being made.
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on 2009-05-05 17:58:18 |
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I'm probably in the middle of realist and romanticist, but more part of me got trap in romantic situation due to some private incident. I think that no matter how realist an individual is, emotions still gonna flow into them without realizing it. Or maybe they do realized it just they trying to run away from it. I can say that there's already 25% of romantic feelings build up in each individual. No one can be purely realistic unless they're some machine. |
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on 2009-05-13 20:02:19 |
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Wow! I loved rocketg's arguement! (Although that was what, a few months ago? hahaha) I also believe that a person cannot be purely a Realist or a Romanticist; Everyone in their right mind has their own common sense, whether it conforms to society's value of what is common sense or not. Since in my understanding, Realism is being rational and using logic, I think everyone has a bit or Realism in them. On the contrary, everyone also has their own fantasies and imaginations; the degree may not be the same for all people, but they do have the capability to dream (imagine in the sense of the word), therefore all people have a bit or Romanticism too. I guess it's how inclined an individual is to either one that labels them as either Realist or Romantic. For me, I'm more of a Romantic. They say form follows function, but my way of thinking always tries to rebel by taking the phrase the other way around. However, it doesn't mean I take Realism for granted.   |
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on 2009-05-26 22:30:36 |
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I'm more like a Realism. I always think the possibilities of things and think it really carefully. sometimes, though, my thinking gets away with all the things i do. i always think that the things i should've done left me not to do it. yeah...its sucks. but i love it.    |
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| I'm a Romantic in my free time but when I have to interact with people and problems in my life then I couldn't be more of a realist. I am so much of a realist that I have no street smarts because I see problems on the surface with a cold hard stern look. Often getting from point A to B the most efficient but at the expense of some other things. |
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by garowthunder
on 2009-08-16 13:51:52
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| Neither one of them i'm not intrested in the reality that's why i love anime,manga and galgames |
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