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Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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by
 
on 2009-01-16 06:15:33 |
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And by ideas, I don't mean practices or traditions. It just came up to my mind today. I've been thinking that we've always been 'borrowing' ideas from the west. Do we really have original ones? |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-01-16 06:43:21 |
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I believe that We Filipinos have originality but sometimes it was overshadowed by the borrowing of ideas.... before like in the movies remember FPJ's Panday? thats is original in the past Filipinos were creative and we admired it so much....  --> |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-01-16 07:07:33 |
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the two festivals that are coming up. Ati Atihan and Maskara. Those are original. It can't be helped. We were colonized by Spain, traded with China, Conquered by Japan and Liberated by Americans. tidbits of those countries culture can be found in ours. |
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by
 
on 2009-01-16 07:29:28 |
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Filipinos have a long history of colonization... We were colonized by Spain for "300 years" and by the Americans for "50 years". Also, Japan briefly invaded us for 4 years and I think a short-lived British rule happened for less than 2 years around the Spanish period. Of all countries in Asia, the Philippines is the most westernized. The legacy left by Americans and by Spain can be seen almost everywhere! names of people and of places are in Spanish, the Filipino langauge has a mix of Spanish words, Philippines (and EasT Timor) are the only predominant Catholic nations in Asia, Spanish style houses/forts/churches are in every city/town (where are the temples?!), almost everyone (from the educated to the uneducated) can speak English, everyone listens to American music and watch American movies, eat at fast food chains etc.......... Sadly, this led to a lack of national identity and lack of Filipino patronage. Filipinos by nature are very submissive. We look down on ourselves and idolize the Caucasians. We always compare ourselves with the westerners. Most of the time, nothing good comes out of comparing. :( It's high time we do something about ourselves and come out of the shell. Look at our Asian neighbors, they're progressing and leaving us behind. Fortunately, things are slowly changing in our country. :D |
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on 2009-01-17 00:05:36 (edited 2009-01-17 01:31:15)
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Other than that we are also of Austronesian decent 8D We had trade from many countries like China, Indo-Malay, and even Japan before being colonized by Spaniards. Like others said we had a lot influence from other countries, and even our national language, Filipino is a mix of Tagalog, Spanish, Chinese, etc.. Well enough of that xD When I see the big picture, I see that many of the works today are generally driven by money. We can't comparing, but sometimes being "not original" is a different case. I watched lalola, which is a show from Argentina that GMA got. I can see that both shows actually have very different story lines and characters. (But the acting was still off :/) Typically what is happening right now is that many of the Filipinos prefer the easier route: "Less Work, More Money" Also, many of our professionals got experience from overseas or were inspired. So when they create their output, there will be times that it will be similar and be compared to Western styles (and Eastern styles too). like Jaydel said, I believe things are slowly changing for the better. We just need the next generation to kick out some of this mentality xD I for one want to be part of it (if ever 8D ) 
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-01-19 00:11:24 |
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So you guys are saying that Filipinos have originality BUT that we tend to copy or imitate others' ideas, right? But why the heck is that? Yes, we've been under the rule of the western colonizers, but does it make any difference if we weren't? What I'm trying to say is that even if we were influenced, why can't we just break free from the previously accepted traditions that are imposed to us? I hate it when people say that Filipinos are 'perfect imitators'. I'm sure we're worth more than that. xD |
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on 2009-01-19 03:04:06 |
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(Okay I am not a racist, but this comments might sound a bit racist, sorry >_<) Actually the 'perfect imitators' are the Chinese, but I don't want to go there. I think it's because of the colonizations that kept us from creating a concrete ides of what we were suppose to be. Also these colonizations are what sculpted us to what we are today. So frankly speaking, we've been incorporating ideas from other cultures for years. Another problem is how poor out country appears. Philippines is not a poor country, but it appeared that way because many are trying hard to appear richer. (gah a bit confusing) Philippines is exerting too much effort on its outer look at the moment. It needs to be a country of wealth and those sort of mentality. People prefer speaking in English and wearing designer (or grade A imitation) apparel and accessories. What mostly is the problem is that our desire to have a sizable wealth. Most of the actual great professionals are constricted by other countries, just to earn more. There was a formula and engine mechanism that can be used for water-fueled cars, a pinoy made it (friend of my cousin to be exact) he sold it of a couple million dollars to Honda (including rights and other legal stuff) I think =__= see that? who benefited, and who was credited right? (sorry, I might have gone off topic here and there, I was on and off on this 8D)
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-01-19 05:47:09 |
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A sad truth actually. Well anyway, let me repeat, thing are slowly changing in our country- a positive one. Although the change is slow, it's better compared to nothing. The show must go on for our country. Let's not linger too much on what the international community has to say. Let's continue to work on our problems and if God favors as one day, things might switch and we'll be the ones being imitated (LOL). >_<; I have great expectations for the Filipino youth. Unlike the previous generation, we are more liberal and open minded. I hope that this continues. Everyone desires to have a change in the way our country works, but what hinders this desire to become a reality is a lack of strong will amongst us. Filipinos have many good traits but this is what we really need to usher us forward. -------------------- Anyway, this is just nice to know.... I've read somewhere that Filipinos are internationalists. We can easily adapt and assimilate in any country. Accordingly, the Philippines has the third-largest population of outward migrants in the world. |
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on 2009-01-19 08:48:45 |
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my friend said that they invented karaoke but sold it to japan or something.. is it true? |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-01-19 17:51:58 (edited 2009-01-19 17:54:06)
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It really is a good thing to know that Philippines is 'slowly' developing into becoming a better country. And as Jaydel said, Filipinos have many good traits. But I just can't help but wonder. Seriously, we're still stuck if we won't do anything about our attitudes. Yes, Filipinos are VERY industrious and hardworking, BUT as long as we have the 'bahala na' (let-fate-decide) and 'ningas-kugon' attitudes, I don't think we'll be having much progress. Let's owe it all to the Spaniards. [Am I too harsh?] The thing is, if only we can get over the influences - especially the bad ones - which we got from the countries that brought them to us, I think the TRUE color of the Filipinos will be seen. It really is the right time to be skeptical and realistic and rational. Beliefs of any sort should be accepted only on the basis of reason, and not on traditional or priestly authority. --------------------------------------- Filipinos are VERY creative, trust me~! |
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filipinos are so creative that they have pinoy idol, fear factor, and now something similar to family feud. what the hell? as far as shows go, I'm not impressed (hell, even entire movie plots get duplicated and turned into a movie with filipino actors -___-). I've seen it progressively get worse. As a filipino myself, I kinda don't like the fact that we're copying alot of shows, because it tends to give off the impression we are copy-cats. on the flipside, yes, the shows are entertaining, and often come up with their own unique twists, I'll give them that. 
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on 2009-01-21 04:27:55 (edited 2009-01-21 04:28:43)
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@Ray Storm: We are not copying shows, we are just generally localizing them. (for pinoy idol, fear factor, etc..) But I really don't consider television for much of the creative output that Filipinos do. But I agree to your point about these shows having their twists. Too bad majority of tv programming, and other media tend to be original ideas of other countries and just borrowed and adjusted for Philippine broadcast. This generation is all about just borrowing ideas, or retelling them. But... Yeah, there are plenty of creative Filipinos! But yeah... a lot of them are working for abroad =.=
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by zparticus27
on 2009-01-23 22:44:27
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there's a lot of creativity in the Philippines ( from indie movies, comics like kiko machine and music) sadly the mainstream market will only support what's popular and easy to "digest" for the mass audience and that would be the so called "localized" versions of those US shows... as for borrowing ideas? well i can only say that almost every medium borrows something from another source but the problems with our idea borrowing is that it becomes a carbon copy of the original source with onlY a slight difference or twist.... as for being the perfect imitators..that would be China's title XD |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-03-04 03:09:12 |
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i'm a PROUD FILIPINO!!! and, we have many wonderful inventions! like what these other dudes have posted, filipinos are really bright and intelligent. actually, our OWN BRIGHT INVENTIONS are being developed overseas. that's why many think that those things are invented by the foreigners, but actually, they are filipino made! our only problem is that... our government dont bother giving much attention to our inventors and scientists! i'm telling this again.... FILIPINOS ARE BRIGHT AND INTELLIGENT!!! 
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-03-07 18:05:58 |
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The illusion that Filipinos are copycats seem to only apply to the media, and hell, who cares about what goes on in the media? I don't give a s*** about it, so let's put that aside. What other posters have shared regarding to Filipino inventions are true. To list a few inventors, Fe del Mundo invented the incubator; Agapito Flores developed the idea of fluorescent tubes into lamps and thus invented the fluorescent lamp; Gregorio Zara, a graduate from MIT, invented the videophone; and the list goes on. But, goddammit, the Philippine Government after Ferdinand Marcos didn't give a s*** about it. Hell, the DOST even rejected Daniel Dingel's hydro-powered car!! |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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Of course Filipinos generate original ideas. Hello? What nation doesn't? It's just that many of them choose to believe that Filipinos are nothing but copycats. They see what they want to see. Open your eyes, and you will see evidence of Filipinos' creativity and originality.  |
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on 2009-03-22 14:15:45 |
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Filipinos created the name,"Jet Li" for Li Lianjie
Ruri No Ame
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on 2009-03-26 09:37:15 |
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Based on what the thread's title suggests, I would say Filipinos DO have their own original ideas... most are already stated here. I myself can't contribute more things to add up to the list of what here was stated "original" since I am on the half of the public that doesn't really believe that Filipinos are original now a days. I'd better be off in saying that Filipinos are creative and resourceful. But I'd also say that there are nothing that is original today... all came from our ancestors all around the world. LOL on Z stating that China takes the gold medal for "Imitating." Regarding Basil's post, my Political Science professor and some other people told us that these inventors were really wasted by the government. Wasted in the sense that they didn't invest much on them since they would lose their 'profits.' I'll focus on the Hydro-powered car, the government had rejected the idea since if it went well, the public won't really have the need for petroleum products. And when the public shuns most oil companies, which has the most taxes, the government would also lose their "shares." Hence, the inventor agreed to give the idea away to a foreign car company... argento_gaia: do you have the proof for that claim? I haven't heard of that.. 
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-03-27 11:11:12 (edited 2009-03-27 11:11:30)
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@Keiri Let me answer your question about Jet Li's screen name. Or rather, let Wikipedia answer it. "Li acquired his screen name in 1982 in the Philippines when a publicity company thought his real name was too hard to pronounce. They likened his career to an aircraft, which likewise 'takes-off' as quickly, so they placed the name Jet Li on the movie posters." And what you just said regarding my post stresses out the corruption in the Philippine government. Which is a complete fact. |
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Re: Filipinos - do they have ORIGINAL ideas?
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on 2009-03-29 05:07:22 |
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Basil: thanks for answering teh question.. Though that bit of info just points out that Filipinos are just creative... Sure, since they are the ones that gave him that screen name, it's an original idea. But, as you could see... only a few are aware of such things. Which is sad.
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