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Why teenagers today have to be so violent?
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by
 
on 2008-10-09 09:08:45 (edited 2008-10-09 09:13:24)
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Last night I saw BBC3's Hoodies Can Be Goodies, a part where two hooded male teenagers murdered an innocent female teen goth named Sophie Lancaster and also her teen boyfriend, just because of their darkly looks. The murderers are sentenced for life in jail, but their deaths brought up a terror wake to the whole UK nation. Why teenagers nowadays--- doesn't matter hoodies, chavs, any kind--- have to be so violent to those that hardly know them? Stabbing the innocents just for the fun? How do they know these people are armed and have intentions to dominate their territory? Do teenagers nowadays live on assumptions and stereotyping? Are we blaming on the type of music they listen to? Are there any specific reasons why teenagers today like to carry this negative look and personality to anyone? I don't want teenagers of Ireland today to waste time on doing negative things--- if they do, surely the future teenagers of Ireland will be influenced by their appaling behaviours and negativity. |
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I'm not sure how to explain this right way but teenagers like them has real issues. They do it for fun because they're lack attention? So they want more attention from others. Most of them wanted to die so they do it this way. They don't care about life any longer so they'll start to do what they want. And other reason probably they're jealous of people who seem perfect and happy. Why does every other people can find so much happiness and have a perfect life but they can't? Thats probably what they always think. It just not ireland, UN, US, basically this thing happening all over the world. We don't see it we don't hear it often from other doesn't mean its peaceful over there at their place. Some people try not to talk about it since they don't this kind of issues about teenages to get worse. Some teenage try to hide their anger and sadness but when they spill it out, things always get worse because someone sure will get hurt. It just something we can't avoid. But probably we can help those kind of people by showing them a real world which they can live in happily. So its basically, Teens helping each other solving this kind of problem is the only solution. Sometimes adults really can't help, they does make it worse. It just the matter of how they live their life childhood life till they grow into teenage years. Thats what half of what I really think since the other half can hardly find words to explain it. So well, excuse my poor english and crappy explaination. |
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on 2008-10-10 10:37:29 |
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I wouldn't go out and say that only today's teenagers are violent. Teens have always done some sort of violent things in one way or another in the past. It's cuz even if they brains are fully deveopled (which they aren't) they still don't understand real life consequences. And most are very impulsive as well. However more teens are doing more out of control things I think mostly cuz parents can't raise kids properally anymore. No spanking, no yelling, no control over your child. And if you don't control your child, how will you control a teenager? If your child doesn't listen to you now, what makes you think they will then they get to 15, 16? They won't. We need to get over all the B.S. stories that are out there now. "don't spank your kid or it will damage them" or other crap like that. No control over your kids means out of control teens which leads to immature and selfish and downright stupid adults, which have their own childern which they can't raise.  
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Did you hear about those hoons that goaded some kid to jumping to his death? Also in the UK.
If each mistake being made is a new one, then progress is being made.
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Spanking and grounding them won't do good either. It might work on some kids, but not on all. Show them the happy side of life. Punishment and dominance only makes it worse. Teenage is a rebellious stage, not to forget the hormones that are raging inside. Most of those kids that are violent never had a decent family life. Puberty is possibly the most toughest stage of one's life with doubts, anxiety and difficult decisions to make for the future. Acting on impulse comes genetically. Too bad they don't have control over their minds. Blame the media? We always have to blame something!  |
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on 2008-10-11 05:29:03 (edited 2008-10-11 05:34:14)
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darkstranger:I wouldn't go out and say that only today's teenagers are violent. Teens have always done some sort of violent things in one way or another in the past. It's cuz even if they brains are fully deveopled (which they aren't) they still don't understand real life consequences. And most are very impulsive as well. However more teens are doing more out of control things I think mostly cuz parents can't raise kids properally anymore. No spanking, no yelling, no control over your child. And if you don't control your child, how will you control a teenager? If your child doesn't listen to you now, what makes you think they will then they get to 15, 16? They won't. We need to get over all the B.S. stories that are out there now. "don't spank your kid or it will damage them" or other crap like that. No control over your kids means out of control teens which leads to immature and selfish and downright stupid adults, which have their own childern which they can't raise. I totally agree. I do have strict parents but at the same time they are truly caring people and I'm lucky to have great parents like mine. I've been watching The World's Strictest Parents on BBC3, and I was really embarrassed to see these British parents have no strict control over their teen children (not physically violent, just verbally violent). They have to send their children to countries like Africa, America (South i.e Texas), India to live with different families, just to learn how discipline can brought harmony between teenage children and parents. It was pretty shocking. But sometimes, like Emphy said, strict regimes won't bring some teenagers to their maturity. Introducing discipline at later stage is way difficult than those who had it early. emphy:Too bad they don't have control over their minds. Truly agree. My days of being a teenager wasn't the best, because of that. Miko, what you said is true, but for teenagers not to discuss their matters with parents is really painstaking. relying on friends and sometimes, strangers~ can be risky. Parents are the only close people in the family. If parents are difficult, talk to close relatives. Somehow in the end, it's a difficult thing to discuss. Emphy, sometimes I blame the media for giving bad influences on any teenagers. For example dance, hip-hop music videos that shows skimpy girls dancing to some pimps who shouts out b****es and other colourful words, as a sign of superior status. Nu-metal music expresses pain and rebellion to the 'pretentious generics', hence being hostile and moody and dark. But I don't know, like Sophie Lancaster, she sure likes nu-metal but never have intentions to kill anyone, so media can't be fully blamed. |
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i agree with dark stranger, today teens are not necessarily any more violent than their predecessors, it is just that the matter now gains more media attention in the era of the 24 hour news station and internet.  |
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I think its because they don't have love from their parents and friend. so they act violantly because they want to attract their parents attention. or maybe it was because of their friends persuasion. kids nowadays have bigger mind and they just don't know how to manipulate it. though I'm teenager, I can still think wisely. violant is not my thing.  |
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I'm a teen and I'm not violent. :3 environment is definitely a factor in how a kid turns out. I grew up being in alot of communities and activities (CCD, karate, Boyscouts, church choir, etc) and I turned out okay. middleschool was rough because I had some bad influences for friends, so it can be said that who you hang out with may define who you are, to some extent. 
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Blaming videogames or cartoons or even anime won't help,certainly. And that media argument is just....disingenous. You know,there's a interesting theory based on a study conducted few years back,where it says that there actually may be a genetic reason for violence. Chilling, isn't it?  --> |
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on 2008-10-13 14:34:06 (edited 2008-10-13 14:34:40)
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I don't believe in blaming music or video games, because they are not at fault. I blame the kids who take those lyrics or games out of context and try unsuccessfuly and stupidly to apply them to their life and situation. those kind of things should be used as recreational or cathartic activities, and though I'm not saying that people shouldn't take lyrics seriously, but they should not be taken to the extreme as to kill oneself or another person. You can relate to a lyric without having to do what it says. Like the song By Drowning Pool titled "Bodies." I think you see what I mean. about that BBC3's "Hoodies Can Be Goodies" I can relate to it, where I live, in the State I, live a boy is just being brought to trial for killing a classmate for being gay in Middle School. I remeber hearing that in 6th grade and I couldn't fathom why someone would do that. I agree with Miko about the jealousy part. But no one can really tell you but the muderers themselves. Although we live in a more accepting society than 50 years ago, there are more shootings in school than ever before. Teenagers have the daunting task of being individual and yet conforming at the same time. There is much more pressures outside of school now that society has changed. More single mothers,latchkey kids, divorces,family issues, financial, political, violence, these kinds of things can push kids over the edge. Though I am not saying that everyone who comes from a single/divorced/latchkey home will snap (I'm an example of that). Sometimes kids try to take control of their world by killing another who is different than them.  |
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on 2008-10-15 01:49:15 (edited 2008-10-15 01:49:44)
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gant: You know,there's a interesting theory based on a study conducted few years back,where it says that there actually may be a genetic reason for violence. Chilling, isn't it? Disturbing. What's the theory called, if you can remember it? Shige, would you kindly explain what you meant by the committee? Is it related to peer pressure? |
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@Wootos: Well, I don't think the study actually had a name. But it was pretty disturbing. According to it, there's a chromosome in no.23 or 28 (I'm not sure) which is called 'the violence gene'. The violence here doesn't mean real violence,but rather....risk. Yes, risk. Because the study in its formative study conducted a survey of all famous criminals,and what did it find? Around 80% were proverbial risk-takers. This leads to the conclusion that the gene,which incites feelings of exultation and 'awesomeness' when its owner is taking a risk,makes it possible for that person to do horrible deeds of violence with scarcely a blink. The threat of legal action only serves to excite this 'risk' further. --> |
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on 2008-10-17 04:36:20 |
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from my view.. there is a few reason.. 1st..family problem n teaching..where sometimes parents might b bz working than handling their children 2nd..stress n yes TO Peer pressure..influences 3rd..gene is not much a reason i think as gene mutation.. go to down syndrome n diseases.. comittee should do more good ativities n campaign for teenagers 4th..cant think for now.. sory..if there anything wrong..ignore it. ;p ;3 
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Down's Syndrome with violence??!? Wow,you hear something new everyday :-). --> |
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on 2008-10-21 02:20:50 |
| I thought Tourette Syndrome is more linked to violence. Down Syndrome... hmm. |
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by Kaida (a.k.a. ShadowYin-Yang)
on 2008-10-23 15:36:49
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My theory is either their families aren't that great of families if you know what I mean. Or: playing Violent M-Rated video games when they were 7
-Anime/Manga fan(nerd)and proud of it!!!
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on 2008-10-28 01:51:09 (edited 2008-10-28 01:51:52)
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kaida: My theory is either their families aren't that great of families if you know what I mean. Or: playing Violent M-Rated video games when they were 7 That reminds me of myself playing Mortal Kombat on SNES when I was around that age xD I loved playing that game, but it didn't put big influence in me. Hmm, maybe I knew it was a pure bogus fighting game xD I don't think my parents were bad for allowing me play Mortal Kombat... hmm. Is it because of the level of maturity in some children whom can differentiate between real and fantasy? |
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on 2008-10-28 08:58:44 |
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no time with Grand parents. XD I mean I was watching WWf when I was still in grade 1 with my grand father, he was a big fan. But I from time to time my 1 of my grandmother takes me along with her when she decides to go shopping and she always gives me good advice. Like after you eat Ice cream break the spoon disposable spoons should not be reused. and I am not that violent at all. and one of my brother which was one big problem in out family became a lot more better ever since grandma also started asking him to go with her for shopping. since I am now a lot more busier. probably lack of family time made these kids violent and close minded. |
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maybe it's too much time with their family. dysfunctional, crazy families.
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