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Best Motherboard
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What is the best motherboard for you. I this MSI make the best motherboard.
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-05-19 20:12:21 |
| Intel Motherboards are Best for me in performance. But ASUS Motherboards is one of my Favorite because I can customize my PC and overclock it easily using this board. ASUS is a overclocking friendly motherboard that's why I like it more than Intel Motherboards. |
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on 2008-05-22 21:13:30 |
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If you mean brands then I'm kinda partial to Gigabyte just since their bus speeds tend to be a little better and the latency is excellent. Lately they haven't made very good hits though.... Asus is definitely one of highest I could recommend as well though.
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MSI makes great motherboards for both Intel and AMD processors. My friend uses MSI P35 Platinum for his Intel. He said it's good. For AMD, I think MSI K9AG (AMD 690G) and MSI K9N series (NVIDIA nForce 570 and 550) are nice. But for the chipset, Intel is the best. When I was still using Intel Celeron, I used to use Abit Al-7 for the motherboard. ABIT was very good for MainStream and High-End class. I think ASUS also makes great motherboards for Intel. The latest ones I know were ASUS Blitz Formula and ASUS P5K, which are too expensive for me. Lolz... The last time I used Intel was 3 years ago. I tried MSI P4N SLI Diamond and ABITNI8-SLI, which use nForce4 SLI Intel Edition for their chipsets (nForce 4 is very good for AMD Athlon). They are two of some Intel motherboards that use NVIDIA'S chipset. I cried to my dad to buy me those motherboards. I really wanted them just because I thought I would be cool to have the first editions of Intel-NVIDIA motherboard, because usually NVIDIA made chipset for AMD only. But I don't know too much about Intel motherboards. I'm now using AMD because AMD motherboards are cheap but very good, especially because some of AMD motherboards use NVIDIA chipset (btw, I like NVIDIA because the name NVIDIA sounds cooler than another trademarks. look at ATI! Its name is not cool!). When I was using AMD Sempron for the first time, I use DFI LPUT (nForce3). Foxconn WnFast (NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI) looks good, but for me it's rather expensive. For me quality is not the most important thing. I prefer the cheap one. I'm using (I forget the type) PC Partner (ATI CrossFire Xpress 3200). It's quite cheap. It's even cheaper than ABIT. But for the price, motherboards that use VIA chipsets are quite cheap but good enough, for example PC Chips and Jetway. VIA (forget the type) was better than nForce3 (when years ago nForce3 was just created and hadn't worked so well yet). But... I never really know well about motherboards quality since I'm not good in hardware benchmarking, and I'm very bad in overclocking. Ahaha... |
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-05-23 19:12:10 (edited 2008-05-23 19:12:31)
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Well in my opinion, I am actually sided with Gigabyte at the moment. I used to be a ASUS fan but I build maybe 30-40 computers a year and last year almost 1/2 of my ASUS motherboard I bought were either DOA or incorrect BIOS version. I can't tell people about high end motherboards but for mid-ranged to budget, I'd say Gigabyte has my trust, I have yet to have a Gigabyte motherboard fail on me. Just spend 10$ on a new northbridge cooler and you are set and can overclock like a beast. My max on my own personal computers go like this: Q6600 (2.4ghz stock) -> 3.45 ghz (GA-P35-D3SL)[39C Idle] {Zalman Cooler} e6320 (1.86 stock) -> 3.13 ghz (GA-945p-S3) [37C Idle] {Stock Cooler} e8400 (3.00 stock) -> 3.93 ghz (GA-EP35-D3SR)[34C Idle] {Stock Cooler} All these results are done with a slight voltage increase (+.1-.125) and the procs still run cold and i do not complain about heat since I go for silent approach.  |
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-05-23 19:55:20 (edited 2008-05-23 20:24:46)
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GMSniper: Well Asus motherboard can be customized in eather of your own ways and balance it with your overclock settings. But if you say Gigabyte is like that also or even more than expected to the performance of Asus which regards to overclocking and chip customization, I'll like to check and test it up all of it's guts. Can you suggest a type of Gigabyte Motherboard for me because I wan't to experiment it for fun. ^_^ In such circumstances, the last thing that I will do in overclocking is changing the Voltage Core. And even now, I rarely do that to increase the performance of my CPU. But in such cases of needs, I almost like to increase it to 5% to 10%~15% if the processor can grip to the tension. .1 or 1.25 increase is what I always test. My P4VBX-MX Asus Motherboard survive 10%~15% Voltage Core Increase using a Pentium 4. But I don't consider it as a success because I have only 1 P4 to test on that time, so I rather set it on a Good Tune-up Overclocked Setup. So this is my question... Can Gigabyte can handle a 10% to 15% Voltage Core Increase? Oh! I almost forgot, did you test or know about Wolfdale? They say that this can be overclocked to it's full potential without increasing the Voltage Core. I didn't test nor encounter nor have this processor, but if you know about it, can you say it to me? |
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on 2008-05-25 12:08:48 |
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Roy: Well the thing is in my opinion ASUS has lost its touch in their motherboards. When they do work I'll have to say they're stable w/ or w.o over clocking but DOA rates of ASUS made me stay away from them. Gigabyte after a new installation of a Chipset heatsink will perform very very smoothly. From what I've been experiencing, gigabyte's stock northbrdige chipset cooler on their mid ranged budget mobos are absolutely horrible. Spend an extra 15$ on a silent Zalman northbridge cooler and you are set. With that I've achieved higher FSB in OC'in and touching less of the voltage. Oh also gigabyte can handle 10%-15% voltage increase but I would worry for your proc if you did that. I pushed my Q6600 to 3.74 ghz with the voltage that high on Intel stock cooler and it was crying bloody marry aka 58C idle. If you want a Gigabyte mobo and you are on a price crunch, then I'd recommend GA-EP35-DS3P. From what I hear, this motherboard paired with good ram and properly cooled and you can achieve 4.01ghz on the e8400 easy. I have a GA-EP35-D3SL which is the lower model that came with a horrible northbridge cooler but I replaced it with a Zalman and with a slight increase of .125 voltage on my e8400, I achieved 3.93 but with out voltage increase my max clock without lock-up on prime 95 was 3.61 ghz. With the slight increase in voltage I was able to pump up another 300 mhz. |
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on 2008-05-30 09:34:43 (edited 2008-05-30 09:35:06)
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@Ruy: My gigabyte K8N series Nforce 4 mobo is currently under (mathematically) an 8.5% core voltage increase from it's stock CPU voltage... I know it isn't 10%, but going that far would severely detriment my CPUs lifespan from what I've calculated, so it isn't really worth it.
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-06-01 03:09:33 (edited 2008-06-01 03:11:17)
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For h4xOr dud3: My current settings in my Asus Motherboard makes my CPU run to 3.7GHz with a Core Voltage Increase of +7% in a more stable manner than it's previous Overclocked settings at 3.5GHz. I even tested to run it for about 4.5GHz with a CVI of 13% but it is unstable risk for my only one P4, so I just stop that settings. For GMSniper: I'm ready to purchase a Gigabyte Motherboard, but the problem is I only seeing some Gigabyte Motherboard that is made in China. I don't want to purchase until I see Gigabyte made in Singapore, Japan, Malaysia, or any motherboard manufacturing country excepts in China because I've experience headache due to maintaining and troubleshooting problems while purchasing a certain brand from China. And about Asus' DOA Rates that you're saying, can you say something about it because I'm lacking a negative cons on behalf of Asus Motherboards. This serves only data or referrence for me, so please kindly explain it. |
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on 2008-06-01 23:07:54 (edited 2008-06-01 23:10:31)
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@Ruy alright to explain about my ASUS woes is quite simple. I build many computer for friends, family and for fun and side money/hobby. To put it simple, I used to be a huge fan of ASUS. However, their "superior" motherboards back in the day for the AMD Athlon 64 and Pentium D were very inconsistent. Many of my friends and customers complained of "fail to turn on". In other words, bios killed itself. I did some research and found out the motherboards I received came with an outdated bios so I quickly did a bios flash on people that complained of the "fail to boot". It didn't fix it. Like maybe 40 computers i used with ASUS motherboards for intel, 5 or 6 would complain of "fail to boot". Only way i could fix that problem was to go out quickly and buy a new motherboard and Fryz was a very expensive but quick alternative. However, after those few lemon motherboards, I've decided to look for a new brand. It ended up being: ABit, Gigabyte and Foxconn. Foxconn was a total waste since everything died slowly (Sata drivers killed itself, then IDE stopped working and etc, Abit was great but their price reflected on it and Gigabyte was stable and worked on par with Abit when it comes to performance but the price significantly less than ABit. Oh also to prove a point, I've recently over clocked a friend's freshly built e8400 on stock cooler and stock thermal paste that comes on it, a GA-EP35-D3SL motherboard and budget 3GB of Kingston RAM and 9600GT by EVGA. Ignore Core #2 temp, the sensor on it is defective but I think if Core #1's temp sensor works just fine, Core #2 should be the same temp as Core #1. All this simple Over clock is also on without messing with voltages. I believe i can achieve 4.00 GHz or more but my friend told me not to touch the voltages so here's proof.   |
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-06-02 05:01:15 |
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For GMSniper: So that's what is it, about BIOS Problem. But since then, I've always update my BIOS and re-customized it after the warranty period expires using a BIOS Flash installer and some software in my CD that my dad gave me. The software is something like BIOS Updater, but the problem is I can't read Arabic Characters (only my dad knows how) I know the click/option patterns only so I'm able to use it. But before that, I've never encountered that thing to my ASUS using an AMI BIOS or some Dual BIOS Setup. I know Foxconn that it's not really reliable because of the chipset and it's not OK on Overclocking. That's why some of it's customers complain about hardware failures in random. Wow! You got a Wolfdale Core. That processor is so good and OK to do OV-C Settings because you can overclock it by not touching or increasing the voltage core as what I was said in my pass post. Hey! Can you E-MAIL to me the wallpaper that you just displayed? Its kind of cute batch of cheerleaders. Can I have it PLS! |
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on 2008-06-02 15:10:06 |
Hah well sure no prob like the thing is I do not feel entirely comfortable modding bio's on customers computers. Not only that it may cause problems but if i do that warranties will void and etc. Oh don't forget about laziness that runs in my family. Oh here's the pic just right click and use as desktop background, center it and then white background. |
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on 2008-07-25 06:09:22 |
| Thank you for Giving this Wallpaper image for me. Although it's kind of late to give thanks and also I just get this Wallpaper this late also because I'm too busy in my Work in setting up a Wireless Network in our place. Thank you Very much for this! |
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Re: Best Motherboard
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on 2008-08-09 20:27:06 |
Umm right now it depends on how much you wanna spend this stuff can go to a couple thousand  |
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on 2008-08-28 12:04:48 |
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Motherboards rarely go for more than 300, let alone a thousand unless you're building a server. Also, I know this is sorta unrelated to the main topic, but on the point of anime themed desktop wallpapers, animepaper.net has a huuuugge selection of good ones.
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