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What is it really???Can you actually obtain it??? If you had nothing how would you know it would be nothing....you always have something.... As well when people say that "nothing is new" isn't this a bit contradictory-sp- something is always new unless you live the same day over and over, which to my knowledge is impossible... 
Did my sarcasm hurt your feelings....get over it!
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"Nothing" is a word, a concept, it is not a THING. To "obtain" something is to have some THING in your possession. Since it is not a THING, "nothing" cannot be "obtained". Understanding the concept of "nothing" is an interesting adventure. Buddhist monks spend years in deep reflection in attempt to understand nothingness. As a physicist, I understand nothing as a slice of space-time that contains persistent, uniform (i.e. zero!) energy. This does not appear in nature, however. An empty volume of space, far from any massive object, contains a sea of particles that spontaneously pair-create and annihilate. The quiet, still air contains trillions of molecules violently vibrating and migrating on their brownian paths. The still surface of a crystal-clear pond is teaming with microscopic life, busy performing photosynthesis, and respiration. The brain of a tranquil sleeping person is alight with violent storms of neural activity, torrents of neurotransmitters spilling out of millions of axons hundreds of times a second. 
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by SuicidopoliS
on 2007-05-10 23:54:46
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To me, in a way, the question of whether "nothing" is in fact "something", is the same as asking if "God might be bad by nature?". It's a mix up of definitions... God, whether you believe in him or not, is GOOD by definition, and the Devil is BAD by definition ( obviously, i'm simplifying things here... ). The same goes for nothing... by definition, it means... well... no single thing. I agree with Gendou on the "empty slice of space" interpretation. And just as with God, it's not because we humans invented the concept of "nothing", that it actually also exists... Luckily, we have something called "context" to help us out, and making us able to use the word "nothing" nevertheless, without being inconsistent or blatantly wrong about anything. .oO° Life's THE CURE, the rest are details! °Oo. |
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@Leia: This question is precisely the reason why people invented the notion of ZERO. Zero represents nothing, but it itself is something. How can something represent nothing because it IS NOT the thing itself, which is nothing. But this concept of nothingness is extremely critical in the development of mathematics. Zero is what mathematician called an additive identity, meaning anything is added to zero give you anything. Ex.: a + 0 = a, whatever that a is. Its evil twin is the number 1, which is a multiplicative identity for anything that multiplies 1 give you the thing you start with. And I digressed.  |
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I guess it all comes down to if you can wrap your head around the fact of "nothing" as "something". You guys helped alot. Link thanks for putting the notion of zero in perspective as well
Did my sarcasm hurt your feelings....get over it!
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i'd like to think of it as no-thing. you can't have no-thing because there's there's always something. like for example, you can say that you have nothing on you, but you actually have clothes...a brain...a body...and other..things? oh well... 
So I drove into a parking lot one time and saw this person pull into a handicap parking spot. When you think handicap, you think wheelchair and whatever, right? So it just ticked me off when I saw the guy come out of the car perfectly fine. So then I ran him over. |
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okay, i liked reading the other answers, but i'm not a physicist a mathematician or a religious person...i'm not even good at spelling... so here is my take from whatever the heck i am. nothing is the absence of all things theoretically, therefore it is impossible for there "to be" absolutely nothing in existence in reality because existence wouldn't exist without anything, so nothing wouldn't technically "exist" either. I think about it like light and dark. darkness is the absence of light, so without light, it doen't exist. and nothing is the absence of something, therefore without something, the concept of nothing doesn't exist, but with something, absolutely nothing doesn't exist in reality. it's a balance, opposites make a whole, you can't have one without the other...love and marriage, love and marriage...haha i love that show. |
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And Ryu will give you what she thinks as a philosopher. ^^; (an amature one). Nothing being a state of mind, it takes effort, wisdom and time to grasp it. Laterally. Nothingness is the state of 'void'. Where: [1] You are in control and there is absolutely nothing in your mind. (thoughts, sounds, images, smells, etc) [2] Everything is in 'absolute' completeness and clarity within yourself. That you're conscious but don't see or feel anything. (And I don't mean being in a coma) One usually obtain the state of having 'nothing' in order to enter something else. Like an understanding or 'world'. So I guess in this case, nothing is something indeed. You have to find it. ^__^ |
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nothing is the lack of somehing that should have been there, but it's not around, never the less it dosent have to be physicall
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lol my head hurts will all these, "thing" that is a "thing" of something XD so basing from your posts, nothing is actually something and has existence, because it has content and value that cannot be measured(?) I'm getting myself confused @_@ I'm open for rejections.  |
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Ahh, one of my new favorite words: NOTHING. I've been reading "The Tao of Pooh" by Benjamin Hoff, and based on the book, I've discovered that to the Taoists, Nothing is Something, and Something is really Nothing at all. For example, an Empty Mind (a mind with Nothing in it) is able to find things that are lost because it is able to see things that are directly in front of it. An Overstuffed Mind cannot. While the clear mind listens to a bird singing, the Stuffed-full-of-Knowledge-and-Cleverness Mind wonders what kind of bird is singing. The more stuffed up it is, the less it can hear with its own ears and see with its own eyes. Nothing allows you to see and think clearly. As Claude Debussy expressed it, "Music is the space between the notes." This is what they refer to as "the Great Nothing."  |
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Nothing in a language sense can exist only because we need it to exist. As mentioned it is one half of a whole, we use it to explain things that we have an absence of. On a larger scale nothing is anywhere since it is nothing. If anything was truly nothing it would not exist and therefore would have no need of being mentioned or sought after. That lapse of existence is why nothing is hard to grasp in a world where we want to associate everything with something rather then nothing. We want to think nothing can be seen, held or measured. In actuality it is an immeasurable nonexistent space with absolutely no energy. The closest thing to nothing we could possibly get would be to locate a part of space that contains zero atoms. Although this is still not nothing since space is a measurable area and therefore still something. A slice of space with zero atoms can still let things like photons or radio waves pass through it which would make it something with nothing in a language sense.  |
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I believe nothingness exists, theoretically speaking at least. My definition of it would be closest to Gendou's , but I think his definition of nothing is something, space-time. Nothingness is what lies beyond the edge of the universe, what existed before its creation, not only no matter or energy, nothingness is the lack of space-time itself as well, i.e. nothing.  |
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on 2007-06-24 17:00:18
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Nothingness is what lies beyond the edge of the universe, what existed before its creation What makes you so overly confident that there was "nothing" before our universe got created? .oO° Life's THE CURE, the rest are details! °Oo. |
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When people complain about having nothing They do have nothing And nothing is something So the person doesn't have nothing They have something, don't they?   |
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Nothingness is the void. Whatever that means.
If each mistake being made is a new one, then progress is being made.
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This thread yelled for my logic... X) 'You dont have what it takes' - What is 'it'? What does 'it' take? And isnt that a good thing? But does that mean that nothing will be taken? Is there anything to be taken? Originally, I assumed 'it' stole the water in your glass, referring to veiwing life as a glass half full or half empty. 'It', I believe very strongly, taken the water in that glass. Are you left with an empty glass of something or a full glass of nothing? Nothing - No thing. No thing - no thing... everywhere... If you have some thing, you dont have no thing. If you have no thing, you dont have some thing. Sorry - off track. ^^| Nothing... isnt that much more a state of mind?
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