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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-18 17:19:56
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If you've seen news, you know how they've been going at it for the past few days, and the whole thing is just getting messier by the minute. So what do you about the whole issue? I mean personally, I don't think Israel was justified their actions.
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Now We must understand Israel has been picked on ever since the country was establiched as a Home country for Jews after world war two. The countries around Israel would enjoy seeing Isreal gone, however, because it has ties to the UN those countries risk being wiped out themselves. Even so the countyr's citizens have been harassed, and made fun of. One inncident even I remember was when the country's athletes where murdered by terrorists. There was even a short war that needed UN resolution during the late 19th century in which several countries waged war against the small nation. So now, with the kidnapping of these soldiers the Isrealis are retaliateing, they are fed up with being condidered as poitless as many arabs (mostly thise fanatical terrorists) think thay are. So this is also a war to get rid of thet guy who's even more powerful then the Lebonese government, and to prevent him from ever challangeing Israel in the future.   |
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on 2006-07-18 18:33:21 |
I totally agree that Israel deserves to blow up those Hezbollah IslamoFascists. These people are terrorists and need to be taken out along with Syria and Iran and anyone else who is helping them. If you watch the Hezbollah news and Palestinian news, you can see the utter hatred they have for Jews. Every single muslim person killed by the Israelis is "martyred". These people will stop at nothing until Israel is no more. 
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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-18 19:05:59
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But I don't agree that they have the right to bomb places with uninvolved civilians.
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You see, Hezbolla is a terrorist force, so they hide themselves among civilians, and neighborhoods. But I belive Isreal isn't trying to complicate the situation any further as it is. |
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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-19 08:37:12
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Ugopetamia, that still doesn't make it right.Also, bombing Lebanon isn't going to get rid of Hezbollah, just force them underground and give people more incentive to support them. And Kyari, you do realize that if given the chance, the Israelis would wipe out every Muslim as well.
The end of the weekend is something that's inevitable... Like a test. Or the Apocalypse.
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by OwdEe sh4H
on 2006-07-19 09:03:15 (edited 2006-07-19 09:05:40)
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firstly, i must say that i didn't catch up wth every single issue on this matter.. well, i must say that right now, things are like what pyroneko mentioned, both israelis n muslims may wipe out each other as well, if they hv the chance. what i can see is israel is really going so (may be too far) far to just free their two soldiers. and truly, bombing up hezbollah won't settle the matter. and why must they drag syria and lebanon into this? sorry, i don't really know the details but i'm jz shocked to know that another two countries are dragged into this further. it is getting messier. n it's unfair for those innocent civillians. to say that syria and lebanon must be taken out as well is also too far for me.   |
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on 2006-07-19 17:37:01 |
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Hezbollah is like any other terrorist orginization, they have been stocking up weapons and munitions for years. (That's how thay have the rockets) Also it's belived that Iran whas the one who has been pulling the strings in Lebanon. And if Heszbollah had more time to stock on weapons, then inevitably another war wouldve begun, and there may have been even more killing in a bloody land war thean bombardmants that are happening now. And Isreal isnt bombing things at random, they are right now trying to destroy the rockets. Keep in mind these rockets ALSO are killing isrealis. And if your wondering why Isreal isnt going in and takeing the rockets out??, it's the terrain, the mountainous tarrain and villages make it impossible for Isreal to go in, their army simoply cant cover that much ground. That's why the only alternative is to bombard the Rockets's positions. A ground war to destroy the rockets and Take down Hezballah would require support from other nations. So the only choice for Isreal to do is the airstrikes and bombardmants. The isrealis right now are hopeing to weaken Hezballah with the bombardmants. Also keep in mind, hezbollah isnt even supposed have these weapons, a UN resolution called for the disamnement of Hezballah. Also, Hezballah chose this in the first place, why did he kidnapp those soldiers when he had absolutely nothing to do with the war in the first place. Hezbollah has brought this unto himself, and unfortunately the poor citizens of Lebanon as well. |
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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-19 19:24:27
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Yes, I know Israelis are dying too. What sucks so much about this is no matter who they are or where they're from, they can die for something they were uninvolved in. And actually, kidnapping does serve its purpose. One thing Israel has done is have a prison with over 9,000 people suspected or speculated to be threats. Israel has also released some of said prisoners in exchange for citizens and the remains of citizens. So that is still a possibility. I've also heard the theory that an Iranian benefactor is using Hezbollah to divert attention from Iran's actions. I suppose this is feasible as well. I'd also like to add that Israel is currently larger than the state of New Jersey. While it was originally smaller, it expanded by gaining land through war. Also, it was only six years ago that the Israeli occupation of Lebanon ceased, and one year ago since the Syrian occupation of Lebanon stopped. Now major roads, bridges, and airports have been destroyed, and it could take up to a decade to restore of all that. And before you say it, I'm aware that religious sites in Israel have also been attacked. All of this is just sad, though. I also want to remind that while I said I didn't agree with Israel's actions, but doesn't mean I agree with Hezbollah's actions either. One of my largest concerns is that conflict may evolve not only into another Middle Eastern conflict, but a third World War, a concept which Hezbollah welcomes with open arms, and with the US support of Israel and other countries support of Hezbollah and other groups only makes the situation look grimmer. Sorry if the post isn't that good, but the first was erased earlier.
The end of the weekend is something that's inevitable... Like a test. Or the Apocalypse.
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on 2006-07-19 19:52:53 |
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What this really needs is a UN resolution, as quoted "Ceasefire with terrorists? I dont think that has been done before, or ever will." And yes this is quite a sad story, but is only one chapter in the wars that have scarred this land, the times of alexander the great, when romans conqered the regions, the crusades, and most recently the wars between isreal and it's arab neibors. The solution in my opinion is to: *Return of the three Isreali soldiers *Completely disarm and disband the Hezballa Terrorist group *A UN peacekeeping force and to watch the Lebanon-Syria border for weapons shipments *To strengthen the Lebanese Government and Military with help from the UN until it's able to support itself *Reconstruction of the Lebanese infastructure Right now Isreali land forces are fighting in southern lebanon against hezballa gurillas. Also Ceasefire is impossible, neither side wants to stop yet. The world really has to step in and do something about hezballa. Right now Hezbolla propaganda may make many Lebanese bring arms against Isreal, which will only lead to more bloodshed. The world really has to get off their as*%$ and do something about this. |
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by Ravensender
on 2006-07-19 20:20:25
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When it comes to some of the Lebanese people supporting Hezbollah, remember their perspective. Israel occupied Lebanon twice, and is currently attacking the country. While Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, they have also done things such as fund schools and hospitals, and by providing basic needs earned the trust and support of the people. So, I'm not surprised, and why I said the attack wouldn't help in the first place. Your solution isn't a bad idea, but we can only hope this slows down.
The end of the weekend is something that's inevitable... Like a test. Or the Apocalypse.
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...and all this happened because people dont wanna accept each other's differences.so they try to wipe out each other.people who are different from them shouldnt exist.and they will continue thinking this way forever. -.- ...sigh...if only they could accept each other's differences...  |
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on 2006-07-20 06:17:48 |
but in human law all that defy are enemies, different religon enemies, so thats cruellty in this world  --> |
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by Train
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geezz... is there any country try to stop both of them??? no, right? what the hell is UNO doing at this time??      |
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by レン | Ren
on 2006-07-20 06:30:21
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| Actually i think this is bull.... |
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by OwdEe sh4H
on 2006-07-20 06:47:39
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a war does not stop wth just another counntry stepping in. it needs more than that. of course, being never experiencing a war, i donno how those ppl involved really feel. but war must be the worse. |
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yes, war is very terrible indeed. in those war, people just say that they themselves are right, and they point fingers at others, blaming other people, or saying that they attack one country for some reason, eventhough the reason is still obscure. its easier for us to say, things like, why dont they just make peace or discuss over stuff without losing innocent lives. im not really into politics and stuff, so i dont really know the procedures needed for the peace keeping. anyways, its hard to accept but human are selfish beings. are war and destructions really the price to pay for our development and for the benefits of humankinds? |
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i agree with rokru its bs
we all learn form pain... the lone wolf walks again. pull the trigger in my soul
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and which part do you think is bs? |
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on 2006-07-20 09:33:07 (edited 2006-07-20 09:36:15)
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o_o ahemm.. Israel...is one of the top nations in the middle east considered to have an enormous war capabilities..during the late 1960's,70's,80's it has defeated egypt..iran and arab countries twice or thrice or quadruple the size of israel at the middle east.. o_o but .. the real score between israel and the arab countries is all about RELIGION,You see jerusalem...also known as the holy city is both special to christians . jews..and arabs.. its not for land anymore..think about it..war has been waging for 4 decades..aw! its sad to admit but i think its the whole damn truth to me.. i have nothing against arabs and those religion hypocrypsy..so ^___^ please be kind to me..wakekkee! hey this is just my opinion ok? ^_^ dont get mad at me please! sorry my english is really really..bad!  |