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I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-13 23:08:38 (edited 2006-06-14 21:22:02)
I read an review in EGM today about how the characters in AC don't move realistically enough and they also implied that the animation and overall movie does not stack up to Pixar from an artistic standpoint(Toy Story, Robots, Cars)or is at best equal to that garbage. I'm sorry to shout like this, but WHAT THE #$%* ARE YOU THINKING EGM? I don't see any point where the characters don't move realistically and I've seen it like a billion times. I usually play it on the television when I'm doing something around the house and whenever I take a glance I've never said, "Man that looked fake."! The only time it's unrealistic movement is when the characters are flying around, but no humans can actually fly so we don't know how it would look so that doesn't count(in science, result has proven specultion wrong countless times). And it doesn't stack up to Pixar? Pixar animation doesn't look REAL. AC does, at least like real puppets, and the characters and environments that they WISH Toy Story or Cars could have. They also said the plot was confusing, uh yeah: for a NON-FF FAN! I followed it easily at least. You have to play an original source and LISTEN to the story to understand the incredibly deep and intertwined sequel, smartguy! Here's an analogy non-FF kids, how bout' we have some hip-hop critic review the Star Wars episode 4-6 trilogy BEFORE seeing the original three; yeah, that would make about as much sense!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-13 23:12:10
i totally agree with you

how the hell can you compare f7:advent children to pixar?

its like comparing a ferrari to a shopping cart

(advent children is the ferarri)

yeah the plot is easy to follow,i dont like game review mags anyway

they are just a bunch of idiots

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-13 23:14:49 (edited 2006-06-14 07:23:42)
AMEN and HALA-FREAKIN-ULLAH ... I knew I was not alone. Hmm I will post some comments from this article here tomorrow, it's time for bed though.

Here's one- " I don't see the unifying look I see in a Pixar film or FF game." by Erin*, who I bet never actually listened to the story or played the game. Oh and she gives no reasons why it's not unifying, cuz like, that's a staple of good journalism or was it bad, I don't know...if she wants unifying, how about the end scene where, oh, Cloud smiles after NEVER smiling in the history of FF and he sees Aerith one last time who died in one of the most dramatic game scenes of all time, if not the most well-known? In a stupid, gimpy voice, I say: NICE MOVE ERIN*! You wanna tell us how video games aren't art or that anime is illegitimate animation next? Please, I'm dying to hear these opinions you flipped a coin over while you were actually watching garbage like Sex in the City while you got payed for a job you, well, kind of suck at IMO! (Shishio pauses for a sec, smiles, then says, "OOH, SLAMMED"!)

*names have been changed to protect the incredibly uninformed.

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-13 23:16:59 (edited 2006-06-13 23:17:33)
i look foward to them

just to spite EGM, im gonna burn the copy of Toy story that is in the movie collection and watch ff7:advent children again

toy story was WAAAYYYY too long ago, and the graphics are outdated

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-13 23:27:53 (edited 2006-06-13 23:31:58)
There's one in my second post now, up above, oh and can anyone think of any scene where they don't look realistic? I'd really like to see it. Just mention it, I know the movie by heart, we all do. Like my old homeboy said, "FF is a way of life, baby"! To all my FF people, Yuna by your side forever! To all the haters, just eat it!!! HAHAHA ( that was Kefka style by the way) You knew!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-13 23:32:03
well, i cant realy say

advent children pwnz any of pixars works hands down

cloud looked more real than some lamer cowboy named 'woody'

( insert 'brokeback mountain' joke here )

OOOOOHHHHH!!! now thats what i call pwnage!!

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-14 07:23:21 (edited 2006-06-14 15:50:06)
More EGM enlightment- by Josh*: Erin* asks him to explain the plot, and he responds, "Well, you see, two years after the game...people have become infected with this thing called geostigma..uhhhh... there's this power source called Mother, and these white haired dudesare looking for it because..uhhh..."

This is actually taken from this genius's response. He actually used those "uhhs" and "..."s (I used to know what those three dots were called, but I forgot). Anyways, I'll let you throw up now that you know he got PAID good money to write this craptastic review. Yeah. Life IS unfair.

Oh, and let me fill you in Josh*, since you can't do your job. The "Power Source thing" is called "Jenova", it was Seph's Mom, remember? You only fought it ,like, 5 times, when you played the game? And the white haired dudes have names and are "remnants" of her "legacy" like they said in the movie? It's not too hard if you listen, as you should have in Journalism school.

*names have been changed to protect the non FF fans who get to review FF movies

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-14 07:35:51
*is done throwing up

what a bad review

actually, 'bad' cant even begin to describe it

i did find something unrealistic in ff7:advent children

how does cloud keep his hair spiky all the time?

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-14 08:04:18 (edited 2006-06-14 15:53:50)
If you had Tifa waiting to mmm hmm you, wouldn't your hair be spiky too?

Josh*, on the voice acting,"No one really stands out..except for Mena Suvari as Aerith-she's attrocious."

Josh*...watch the Japanese dub...and see...how the...mouths...match the words perfectly...

That's it, I can't stand talking like this guy anymore. How does he order a cheeseburger? And Mena does a good job; she is kind of overly sweet, optimistic, and ditzy, but that's how Aeris was.

Oh and did you see the look Tifa gave Cloud at the end of the movie? It is as if she says with her eyes "I'm gonna (whoa!) you so hard, Cloud!"

*names have been changed to protect the oblivious

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-14 08:21:11
@shishio- yeah, mah hair would be like that too if tifa was waiting for me ^_~

i thought that the english actor for aerith was good, thats exactly how i imagined her to sound like

however, i didnt know that cait sith was scottish/irish (hear the english voice)

yeah, even master martial artists (tifa) can get a bit lonely ^_~

anyway, i dont like the way this 'josh' person talks

its like he has a speech impediment, i wonder how he got his job....

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Doctor? on 2006-06-14 09:09:59
Cait Sith Scottishaccent was hi-lar-ious.
"Ahh shet yer gob!" Classic stuff...
I actually ripped that review out of my copy of EGM just because Iwas ammazed by the suckage of the reviewers.
Advent Children pwns the hell outta most other CG movies I've seen and it was a lot more FF than the rubbish "Spirits Within"...
Remember that one? *cringe*

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by sai on 2006-06-14 10:30:34
Do those EGM guys have brains? Ah, stupid question, of course not...-_-
Wow, i can't believe someone judged pixar's animation to be better than AC...
And what the hell is wrong with an "unrealistic movement"? Read the frickin title man, it's FINAL FANTASY, geez...

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-14 12:33:30
how is pixar's animation any more realistic?

i mean look at them, they got animated toys running around and talking cars

does anybody see what i am saying?

READ OR DIE !!!!...83(4lJ53 l{N()VVl_3l)63 15 l*()VV32 !!!!

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-14 15:25:59 (edited 2006-06-14 15:48:00)
I'm seriously thinking about writing a letter to EGM boycotting the magazine on behalf of all Final Fantasy fans for this BS. I could see a critical article, critiquing it for the betterment of the art, but this was clearly just pure ignorance and there was nothing to back up their statements. They even ignored the brilliance that went into the Japanese dub. They didn't even understand the plot which was clear to any FF fan, so I doubt they were even Final Fantasy fans. This is an insult to all FF fans. Final Fantasy is sacred to us. It provided thousands of hours of entertainment and characters we'll love forever- EGM did not, providing twenty hours of fun at most in my life. Granted I do like the magazine a lot, but this was wrong and just insulting to me as an FF fan. Would anyone else want to boycott them with me?

Another genius qoute- Erin* says, "I think the film has an esoteric plot no matter how you slice it...the character movements are a bit wooden...the overall film, from an artistic viewpoint, was disjointed -too many different visual styles and environments."

And she gives NO examples from the movies. Nice. Oh, was there a little too much for you in the movie? Sorry, Erin* that's what an FF game is like.

*names have been changed to protect the insanely ingnorant.

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Ming-Chan on 2006-06-14 15:37:54
You wanna compare FF7AC with toy story?!! Man, even my friends who don't play FF 7 thought it was the coolest movie they had ever seen. Okay, fine, I admit that at some parts, with all the jumping and flying, that was illogical, but even in an interview with Tetsuya Nomura, he stated that eventhough those stunts defy physics, he still put them in because they look COOL. (And they did look cool.) If you look at Pixar animation, they animate mainly CARTOON characters. If pixar had done the animation for FF7AC, I'd be prepared to see Cloud with huge goofy eyes and Sephiroth, instead of trying to kill Cloud in all the debris and buildings, just shoot big colourful blasts take make kids go "Ooooo!!" Pixar should be left for cartoons, FF for more serious, reality stuff.

PMR...PMR... 1 month...

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-14 15:47:18
Oh, I must be fair with EGM, Josh* said he would put the film on Pixar level even though he said the animation was hiccuppy but gave no examples, and even though it's above Pixar OBVIOUSLY. It's Erin* who said that she "didn't sense the same unifying look she saw in Pixar films". BS.

*names have been changed to protect the insanely overpaid.

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by devils-angel on 2006-06-14 19:40:43
Bring those people here!!!!

BTW, I didn't see Advent Children yet, lol, I gotta get it soon though, lol, but I know it's good. Pixar? *sighs....*

It's Miazaki and the Oscars (I think) all over again!!

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Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting the 'papermaster' on 2006-06-14 20:19:17
@shishio- i'll join you in a boycott

its not like i read their magazine anyway

thers no need to protect the people you are trying to boycott, so feel free to give real names

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Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango on 2006-06-14 21:16:53 (edited 2006-06-15 19:49:43)
Allright the names of these two are:

Jennifer Tsao
Bryan Intihar

But you can't have a boycott if there's not a lot of people-if only there was some big FF fan site...Oh well, I'll just write a letter- no, a petetion- and get a bunch of people to sign it online. Do you guys think it's a good idea? Maybe I should ask Gendou if that would be cool with him here? I wouldn't want to bring this awesome website PR it doesn't deserve, after all, I really like it here. Between here and Combovideos.com, I'm home.

BTW if anyone has a problem with me or anybody attacking Pixar, we are not, but when Pixar made movies they entered the "arena" of animation and their work will, should, and is expected to be critized and compared to other works of CG art, albeit rather harshly.

Re: I heard these critics putting down Advent Children
Link | by katsu on 2006-06-14 23:48:03
hah. whatever. they are totally mistaken. in fact, the first time I saw advent children, I thought they were real people. hehe. stupid.


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