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by Mesousa_san
on 2006-05-30 09:40:14
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I wanted to know how many tekken players there are.Its hard to find a challenge where I live. (nobody is good enough except my brother) oh yeah and tell me your fav. character because king defeats all~maho~  |
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by Bloodlust Angel Of Death Kel
on 2006-05-30 11:46:36
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Yeah I play Tekken I play it best with the female characters  |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-05-30 21:14:13 (edited 2006-06-01 22:53:00)
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Himeko, on this "nobody is good thing"- I've played in tournaments for Tekken, if you are looking for competetion go to one of those. Unfortunatley, a lot of people aren't as good as they think they are until they go to one of these, so be ready to lose, and you may lose badly. I'm not trying to be mean but I want you to be prepared for what may happen cuz it is major shock to some. Seriously, I've seen grown men break down and cry. Here's how to gauge if you are good enough- Do ALL your Safe launcher JUGGLES do at least 40% damage juggles, not including walls? Do you know and only use the best wall-specific combos for 60-95% damage total? Do you use all three types of throws, as in throw breaks? Do you break throws on reaction? Do you parry on reaction and combo afterwards? Is your execution 99% perfect (never mess up moves/combos)? Do you use frame advantage and avoid frame disadvantage? Do you use the instant while rising move tactic? Do you roll correctly? Do you focus on launchers, not canned strings (which suck)? Do you never mash buttons? Are you a Tekken Lord in Arcade mode? These seemingly insane tactics are all a BASIC necessity in high level play. If you want to play worthy competition you would need these skills. Good luck, I hope you get involved, its a lot of fun! Oh, and I usually just use Lee, Anna, and Xiayou, and they are all Tekken Lords. I use just them because with three characters it's easy to become familiar with match-ups, that's what a lot of tournament players do to and you should narrow down to two to three as well. |
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by Mesousa_san
on 2006-05-31 14:32:56
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I havent been to any tekken tournaments becuase I never hear of them and I dont have the resources to travel to the and yes I have unlocked every character and all of them are Tekken lords. ~I play a little to much~ But I might just go to a tournament since your saying they are that good. and when I ment by nobody is good I meant locally. If you live in either ocala or belleview florida let me know Thats the most I have ever typed~maho~ |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-05-31 20:11:20 (edited 2006-05-31 20:18:46)
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Florida? Are you serious? You have excellent Southeast regional competetion available in Miami and Orlando, and basically every big city has a least a few decent Tekken players, especially if there's an arcade. You should go and search for a website like Shoryuken, Tekken Zaibatsu, or ComboVideos and e-mail the players in your state to meet at someplace if you are serious about competing. You'll also find good info on your characters of choice there, like which moves have frame +/- advantage, and the match-ups , all on those sites. Oh and unfortunatley, if you're playing Tekken 5 on PS2 it's outdated, at least for tournamnet play, unless you have the new "Dark Ressurection" version, where almost everyone got changed, sometimes dramatically, and new characters were introduced. And one other thing- your Tekken Lords can get taken away easily with these players if you can't parry combo, roll correctly on reaction, or break throws on reaction, because one little mistake in real Tekken play means you lose HALF of your life , EVERY TIME, and to launchers, not easy to avoid strings/unblockables. And worse off, most players don't know they are making these mistakes until they face a better player, and that's why you need to be familiar with frame disadvantage before you get there, and King has a lot of it. Do you know what Frame Disadvantage is? |
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by Mesousa_san
on 2006-05-31 20:35:13
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I'm not familiar with frame Disadvantage. actually this is the first time i've heard of it. |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-05-31 21:12:26 (edited 2006-06-01 22:54:35)
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Frame advantage and disadvantage is the number of frames a character is stunned or not stunned when they are blocked. Each frame of animation is literally about 1/40th of a second, and while that seems like an insignificant amount of time it's enough bto deal serious damage. It is all essential in high level play. Each move creates frame disadvantage and advantage. For example- let's say you kick your oppenent and they block it, that move can give you 8 frames of disadvantage, and the oppenent 8 frames of advantage. So they have 8 frames, or about 1/40th of a second, to attempt an attack first, often without interupption, like a quick jab, throw,or fast launcher, and you may have no way to avoid it if it is too fast, or if you are stunned from your disadvantage for 8 whole frames! That's why all moves are either safe or unsafe, and they all come with set +/- advantage on block. I'll tell you an easy way to see this for yourself in Tekken 5... Get Nina in Arcade mode up in the oppenent's face, and then just hold down-towards and hit LP then RP over and over again. Nina should repeat Uppercut to Jab over and over again, which is a advantageous move, and the computer should only be able to beat it about 1% of the time! That's because you created a situation with continous frame advantage, or a "frame trap". The only ways out of frame traps are specific and require skill or incredible luck. I use frame traps on players who say they are good to weed out the fakes (now you can weed them out too!). If they can't beat this, they aren't really top-level good as they may say. Try it. Do you see what I'm saying? It's real cool. You only want to use safe moves if you aren't sure if they'll hit, and to know when to punish unsafe ones, and when to be defensive when you are hit with a safe one. When you have this correctly at a tournamnet you'll be one of the best Tekken players around with a HUGE advantage ,and every will be flocking to take you down! And then, people may even travel to your house and that'll solve your problem of not finding players. (PS Your signature is adorable-keep it!). |
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| I'm a tekken player...and according to Shishio Makoto...I can do all those things in that list of yours except for the first one which isn't at 40% but at greater than 55%...to me...that's just basic stuff as well...all my characters are all Tekken Lords in Arcade Mode...took a long time of course because there's sooooooo many characters to get through...but I got it done...hehehe...but of course I know that there are heaps of players better than me...and I'm just "GOOD" enough...compared to them...they are way too hardcore for me...I can play anyone...but I'm absolutely deadly with Nina, Marduk, King, Paul, Xiaoyu, Roger Jr, Jin and Kazuya...because they're my favourites...hehehe... |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-06-01 21:21:40 (edited 2006-06-01 22:52:17)
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In response to your damage % comment- Everyone can do the 60%-90%+ damage combos in Tekken 5, but a lot of those launchers are unreliable or unsafe. What I meant in that list is that at least 40% life is neccesary on all your SAFE launchers, which are all you should be primarily using, and even the BEST players in the world only average between 40% and 50% on their average juggles because they use almost all safe moves too, unless they use a wall combo where you deal 60-100% damage or the "broken combos" that were taken out of Tekken 5 Dark Ressurection (like Steve's ridiculous 90% combos and infinites). Just view the new DR tournament videos to see what I mean. Also i'm not trying to be mean but it's only fair to the high ranked players who swear by those less damaging 40 to 50% combos for a good reason; their combos are not worse than yours just cuz they do less damage than the ones you use (not that you said that, but the average player may think that). If you're always getting more than 55% on average, that's a little high without a Ch or wall, cuz I rarely see good players using super damaging juggles cuz the others are expecting them and ready for them! No offense, but you may using the easy big launchers that are impractical, unsafe, and never work in high level play, or including the wall damege or floor hits which are easily avoided in high level play, or you may be doing the good combos (safe 40-50% on average) but mistaken on how much % damage they actually are by a few % (remember, damage decreases as life decreases too). For example, with Anna I can land about 95% damage on a counter hit Assasin's Dagger, but that situation is rare cuz any good player won't walk into it and will be ready for it. If dodge the Assasin's Dagger they can WR into huge combos so I only use it if I know it will hit. So you can see why pros rely on safe launchers which tend to deal only half life damage but won't result in being punished. The point is if you want to get better you should take these unsafe moves with Frame disadvantage out of your game and you'll get hit a lot less and you can be on your way to being one of those crazy top players, and meeting new players (the point of the thread). Hope this advice helps you or anyone improve their game and find competetion. Sorry it went so long, but that's simple as it gets! |
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| hehehe...I understand what you are talking about...I guess I misunderstood your question with the juggles...I guess I didn't read the SAFE LAUNCHERS part...hehehe...I'm sorry but yeah...I do use those safe combos more often...because I know that using safe launchers are preferred when playing high ranked players...plus I know all about Frame disadvantage because I tested all kinds of combos and starters and the amount of time it takes for recovery and such from the characters' moves...and I have found which is best to my style of play...plus I'm more of a defensive player and I can read moves very well...but if I have to I can become an offensive player...I know that I'm not all that great...but hey...I ain't that sort of person...I'm a kind of person who looks for challenges no matter if I can win or not...I'm not even sure that if this makes any sense...oh wells... |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-06-04 22:19:36 (edited 2006-06-04 22:22:12)
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| You might be better than you think. You should seek out high ranked players and beat them, if you can, you are a high ranked player. You're right; it's BEST to be defensive in order to bait out moves and then punish them acordingly. Oh and don't feel bad I had to modify my post after yours but I should have been more clear on the safe launchers thing beforehand; you see to me the launchers being safe is common sense, and I just forgot to add it in (sorry). Anyhoo, why don't you come to the evolution tournament this year? We went last year and it was a blast, this year we need about 30 people for our suite, we have about 10 absolutlet coming but others are not so reliable...You may find your calling here. The whole package should only set you back about $200. |
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The new Tekken Dark Ressurection, what's the story about..? And who's the new characters..? =__= Sorry if I ask this sort of question.. ;__; |
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I wish there was more going on in tekken arround the NEPA area. I've been playing since tekken 2 an' I've found my favorite character to be bryon fury. I'm also interested in this "dark ressurection".. It sounds good.  |
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Yeah, I'm an ex-tekken player till I got uninterested and buzzed off and sticked to rpg and action D8> still, I'm in favor of Raven <--OWNs  |
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Well... heres what i got from GameSpot: "Lili's story focuses on how her life has changed in the wake of an aborted kidnapping attempt four years prior to the events in the game. Beating the smack out of her would-be captors apparently got the young heiress hooked on the thrill of a good fight. Thanks to her family's resources, such as their vast wealth and a jet, young Lili travels the world looking to kick some tail under the guise of a traveler. As luck would have it, while in San Francisco she gets an invitation to participate in a fighting tournament run by Mishima Zaibatsu, a business rival of her father's. The promise of kicking some tail and helping daddy out draw the young pugilist into the Iron Fist tournament. Dragunov's story is decidedly less cuddly. The surly member of an elite special-forces team, who goes by the catchy nickname of "The White Angel of Death," is dispatched to investigate a discovery at an archaeological site. A mysterious object is discovered in the permafrost beneath a subarctic forest, and the secrecy that surrounds its discovery piques the interest of the military, which then send Dragunov out to discover what the object is all about. Finally, info on Armor King's story is rather thin due to the masked wrestler's mysterious past, but we expect we'll soon find out more about the person who slaps on a jaguar mask and tights before wrestling. " @Chubster -Shishio has a good point... you never know that you are a good player if you don't play against other players... So what if you lose? It's part of the game... you just have to get back up and do your best... Practice... Practice... Practice...  Kneel Before the Great and Benevolent Cow! |
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hehehe...well...I know that I'm no beginner...but I have played against high ranked players...like I said in my first post...I can't really compete against them...too hardcore...they beat me soooo easily...I play against alot of high ranked players...one of my friends comes over and plays Tekken 5 with me alot of the time...and I'm sorta used to the losing but it's all good...win or lose...as long as it is competitive I'm happy...it's not like I give up or anything...I go at it all the way...I like this saying..."GO HARD OR GO HOME"...hehehe... @Shishio I'm not sure what you meant by the evolution tournament...but I live in Australia and I haven't really heard of it...sorryz...hehehe...it sounds interesting though... |
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by i_want_to_flirt_with_drunk_sango
on 2006-06-05 21:55:41 (edited 2006-06-05 22:01:51)
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Evolution is the part of the World tournament that is held in America. @ALL TEKKEN FANATICS If anyone is going to Evolution, hit me up and we'll meet you there, you can contribute some cash to our suite. Dark Ressurection KICKS ASS all over the board, they Remixed the 5 stages and songs by reversing day and night,summer and winter, etc. and made the original music SO EVIL. They also toned down a lot of the overpowered characters like Steve. The only good new characters in Tekken 5 DR are the Paris Hilton-esque Lily, she ROCKS and may be the best new character since Bryan Fury, she's original, BEAUTIFAL, a good character, and her stance is SO COOL, it's kind of girly looking but you might find yourself doing it. To see a video of the best Lily player on Earth, go to combovideos.com and download the Tekken 5 DR Korea matches. That Russian guy is also uber cool, his evil stare makes me wanna do the same to the player next to me (but I don't). Overall, these 2 new ones are some of the best new additions, the others in 5 sucked: Raven really sucked and Feng was just another overpowered Asian guy, Asuka was just Jun. BTW, what happened to Himeko chan? |