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@ASD: doumo arigatou gozaimasu! demo, atashi wa particle no post o yomimashita. dakara, daijoubu.. (thank you very much. but, i have read the post on particles so it's all right.) gomen if my sentence construction is wrong.. i am just starting to formulate my own sentences.. like what was said before, i seem to know how to formulate them but i am not pretty sure if it is grammatically correct.. i sure hope i could learn a lot from this thread... :) |
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Yeah, I though you said that that is what you called your friend..but if you say that is what they call you...I am kind of confuse cuz i am not sure if the "o" particle is use in that way...maybe we can get someone to explain it to the both of us. "Gakkou no tomodachi-tachi wa watashi o Mia to yonde shimasu." For instance...at one glance we know the sentence is correct but the "o" particle is what makes me think twice cuz i haven't use it in that way before. Personally I would say "Gakkou no tomodachi ga watashi wa mia o yonde shimasu" I put "ga" for tomodachi cuz it is not one friend but many which is not specific and I made watashi as the topic marker which i put "Wa" and "Mia o yonde shimasu" literally translated as "call me as Mia". Another reason i put "wa" for watashi is because the sentence is stressing on what your friend call you as. That is what I think would be better. On top of that "o" is usually use for an action taking place present or past. But hey, I hope expert out there can give some comment too. I might not be entirely correct and still learning. :) And Len Chan..you got the entire sentence gramatically correct..congratz. But using atashi means you are a female. Hehehe...Most of the time I use boku. :)  |
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Hm, from what I've learned, "o" is for indicating object that is affected by the action, isn't it? So, because "I" am the one being "called", wouldn't "o" be placed after "watashi"? @Len-chan: Well, I said that just in case you haven't :)   |
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If I am not wrong, the particle "o" is used in this way. 1) Kono basho o sagashite (Searching for that place) 2) Watashi wa sushi o tabemasu (I eat sushi) 3) Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran no naka ni imasu soshite futari wa ramen o tabemasu. (Mr yamada and Mr Shinji is in the restaurant and both of them are eating ramen.) Mostly it is used in this manner......Asd maybe you can try to enter the chat and ask more about this see what will they say about it. Like I say we need to get more opinion from others. However is this what you mean from the start? kimi o suki de yokatta (I am glad I love you) Anata o aishiteru (I love you) The "o" is infront of the action taking place. Then if this is the sentence what about mine? Are both of us right? |
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3) Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran no naka ni imasu soshite futari wa ramen o tabemasu. -> should be broke up into 2 sentences and however that sentence actually means Yamada san and Shinji san is in this restaurant. And both of them are going to eat ramen. Because I think "soshite" is used more in a "and then I'll do this" manner, replacing the conjunction would be more preferable Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran no naka ni imasu. Sore ni futaritomo wa ramen wo tabeteimasu. Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran no naka ni ite issho ni ramen wo tabeteimasu. another alternation Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran de issho ni ramen wo tabeteimasu. as for "wo" particle in my words, is a particle that is indicating the "thingy" in front "wo" is being done something to.
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@Brian: It's placed after the direct object instead of before the verb according to the post about particles, actually, but in those sentences, they are placed inbetween them, so it's OK. |
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Mamoru, so my sentence isn't wrong right? But soshite also means "and" and it can be a conjunction in this sentence too..Anyway thanks for the great help but what if i use kute to join a sentence? Asd any feedback for me? "Gakkou no tomodachi ga watashi wa mia o yonde shimasu" Then what about this sentence? Isn't this the same too? |
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"Gakkou no tomodachi ga watashi wa mia o yonde shimasu" so it will turn out to be like Gakkou no tomodachi is, watashi is, calling Mia. therefore it is wrong ;D "Gakkou no tomodachi-tachi wa watashi o Mia to yonde shimasu." is correct. Friends at school is, calling me Mia. Turning it into an unbroken english sentence: My friends at school call me Mia. (as "o" is the {subject being done} to marker and in this sentence, "mia to yobimasu" is the action in this sentence) ;D 3) Yamada san to Shinji san wa kono resutoran no naka ni imasu soshite futari wa ramen o tabemasu. -> should be broke up into 2 sentences and that sentence means Yamada san and Shinji san is in this restaurant. And two people are going to eat ramen. it's still wrong brian san Here's my another and another alternation This is when you use -te to join the two sentence. ↓↓ Yamada san to Shinji san wa resutoran no naka ni ite issho ni ramen wo tabeteimasu. This would be the closest to your original sentence Brian san. ↓↓ Yamada san to Shinji san wa resutoran no naka ni imasu. Karera wa ramen wo tabeteimasu.
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Thx man. An apology to Asd. ;D Then in what situation should i use soshite and dakara Mamoru san? I always thought that soshite is "and" and dakara means "therefore" Plz check my signature for me Mamoru san.....I type it down and worry that it is full of mistakes. ç§ã¯è¡€å¡—られãŸå‡¶æˆ¦å£«ã .ã§ã‚‚クレイモアã¨é¢¨ã®è–ç—•ã«ã¯ä¸€ç•ªå¥½ãã ã‹ã‚‰ã‚¢ãƒ‹ãƒ¡ãŒã„ã¤ã‚‚見ã¦ã„るよ. This sentence above is just below my picture.. :) I need you to correct me along the way if you don't mind. :) |
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ç§ã¯è¡€å¡—られãŸå‡¶æˆ¦å£«ã .ã§ã‚‚クレイモアã¨é¢¨ã®è–ç—•ã«ã¯ä¸€ç•ªå¥½ãã ã‹ã‚‰ã‚¢ãƒ‹ãƒ¡ãŒã„ã¤ã‚‚見ã¦ã„るよ. Some mistakes ;D ç§ãŒè¡€å¡—られãŸå‡¶æˆ¦å£«ã 。ã§ã‚‚「クレイモアã€ã¨ã€Œé¢¨ã®è–ç—•ã€ãŒä¸€ç•ªå¥½ãã ã‹ã‚‰ã‚¢ãƒ‹ãƒ¡ã‚’ã„ã¤ã‚‚見ã¦ã„るよ。
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So the only mistake is the ga and the o. :) lucky me. Thx dude. When I have more questions I will post here. And I hope you can help me along the way. :) thx again dude. |
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"soshite" for example: kono ashi wo tabete, sono te wo tabete, soshite ano atama wo tabemasu. I eat this leg, I eat that hand, and then I eat that head.
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i think i remember that the wo particle (though pronounced as o) is used for verbs.. that's what my sensei used to teach us.. and for soshite, well, it's use is just like the conjunction "and" in english.. but you use it for two statements that are similar.. like for example, okashi wa oishii desu. soshite, yasashii desu. i forgot what was supposed to be used for contrasting statements... i think, it is demo.. just not sure... but i am happy that this thread is already up and running again... :) @brianma: thanks for the comment.. :) |
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chotto machigae ga aru ne Maria san : D (little mistake :D ) 日本語を　ãªã£ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚―――＞　日本語　を　ãªã‚‰ã£ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚ ã§ã‚‚　良ããªã„ã§ã™ã€‚　―――＞　ã§ã‚‚ 上手 ã§ã¯ã‚ã‚Šã¾ã›ã‚“。(demo jouzu dewaarimasen.) Actually Brian san, according to Len-chan, "soshite" can be used for just "and" too like the sentence above... "okashi wa oishii desu. soshite, yasashii desu." however i don't use it that much maybe that's why i don't really feel comfortable
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Wow, lots have happen for the past 6 days. Now I am back. Thx for the great help everybody but i have one tough question. I was taking my JLPT 3 on Dec 2nd and I encountered the word tabesaseru.... and there is also a tabesaserareta....what is the differences between this 2.... Saru ni tabesaserareta. (I was eaten by a monkey) Sono hito wa tabemono o tabesaseru yo. (Make that person eat the food) These are sentences constructed by me so i do not know if it is ok or the usage of saserareta and saseru are correct or not. I screw up a little on the grammer part...Some feed back would be really helpful. |
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"Saru ni tabesaserareta. (I was eaten by a monkey)" "Sono hito wa tabemono o tabesaseru yo. (Make that person eat the food)" wa tadashikunain desu. tadashii no wa: saru ni tabesareta. ---> I was eaten by a monkey sono hito ni tabemono wo tabesasete yo. ---> make that person eat the food tabesaserareta is kinda like making/telling and causing effect to the person... i'm not sure how to explain it though... tatoeba: watashi wa sensei ni shiken wo watasaserareta. I was told by the teacher to hand in the exam.
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Wow, this thread has grown ever since I went on hiatus. Oh, and 守る, you can't say "tomodachi-tachi." If expressed in kana, it's "å‹é”é”." -tachi is negligible. |
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but it's not wrong, I just try not to change the original
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