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Re: The depression thread
Link | by nejigirl on 2005-08-31 14:34:27
oh, and ahm... jomunga, what do you mean by good times? i don't know.

nya........... hehe.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by night_link on 2005-08-31 14:45:59
It's good to hear that there is still something to look forward to (your friends and growing more mature), even if it is still small. I guess this is where some of us just go to to let problems out. But even though we're still wearing masks, there's still parts common to everyone.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-08-31 14:57:50
Yeah, jomunga, "good times" are not the problem. The problem is that the good times come out of a bottle in this case.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-31 17:41:28
im not going to do what i usually do because im kinda tired. (stupid cold) but im glad that we are able to help you nejigirl! i hope you understand that even though we live VERY far away, we are all close...im very glad that i created this thread. These people, oldcrow, Old man kai, Seki, jomunga , and the rest...they are my second family...they give me the emotional support that i dont get from my REAL family...i wouls be happy to accept you into our family...if you wish, of course.

Old man kai: that is an extremmly sad story...i suppose we ALL get like that once and a while...

and to nejigirl, just never give in, never give up!


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-08-31 17:56:56
Thanks for remembering me nightmare =) I cant help much wif Nejigirl though. All i can say is your mother cant seem to get out of the mental trap she placed herself in and you and your siblings are suffering for it. Hate her not but pity her for her inability to break through.
I have problems wif my family too: my dad likes to control even though he wont admit it, my mother thinks she's knowledgeable but she cant even operate a VCR or a comp plus she's very hypocritical, my 'brother' is a f*$& up piece of crap that I wont even classify him as Homo Sapien. and another which is ok but starting to get on my nerves.
But your temple is the only place you can go in times like this. Your own temple is your mind. But right now, my temple is really messed up at the moment, so i'm right now seeing someone to help me clean it up a little.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-31 18:20:39
if you dont mind my asking seki, how is your temple messed up?


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-08-31 19:00:54
Good times coming from a bottle is not really gonna change anything, she really doesnt know any fun besides the booze. I dont really know her or what she would find fun, but if you have the movie tonari no totoro, id think it might leave an impression. Like how in the movie 2 sisters are living with their dad, with their mom in a hospital. It may sound like your future. Plus people who watch 1 Miyazaki movie usually want to watch the rest of em, she may like watching anime maybe?

If she had some fun and lightens up, she may become an easier person to be around.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-08-31 19:18:50
Nejigirl, I totally agree with nightmare; never give up! That's the most important advice any of us can give you. If you persevere, eventually things WILL get better for you, whether that's because your mother starts listening to the rest of your family, your father forces her to go into a detox clinic for recovering alcoholics, or you just get old enough to leave home and get away from the whole situation. As long as you don't give up, the future is open for you and things can only get better.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by night_link on 2005-08-31 21:29:15 (edited 2005-08-31 21:30:05)
Thank you nightmare, I'm very touched. The fact that we will run into problems no matter what... it's only how we handle it. And you don't have to be alone; family and friends count too.

Wow, Seki, my dad's the same case as yours. So are my other Chinese friends' dads... is this really stupid or what?

That's a nice suggestion jomunga. But there are chances that parents have to not have any problem watching anime. I mean, my dad HATES the sight of it and I'm lucky enough to still have my Chinese dubbed of My Neighbor Totoro.

nejigirl, I know it's been said before, but I still want to try and say it in a different way. In the end, everything will be all right. What happens now is just the past. The past won't change (I took so long to realize that), but there is later to look forward to. There is a hope.

nightmare, take care of your cold... uhh... I mean kill your cold. Other than the plenty of rest things... try chicken soup. LOTS of warm drinks (even warm water works for me). And make sure your neck and stomach are covered constantly because that's where you're most vunerable (or at least that what I'm taught...). But I hope that by the time you read this, you're already on the way back to before.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nejigirl on 2005-09-01 17:48:47
yeah, my parents hate anime. they superficially think it's 'weird'...

and nightmare, do feel better! colds suck, dude.
and thanks to everyone in my new 'web' family. it still kinda hurts, that i can't really depend on my parents this year... and it hurts that they can't comprehend things... but it all happens for a reason, i suppose. but for me, now is not the time for me to be mourning, and i'm a bit tired of it... the only thing that can really help now is support {which i have, heh} and action.. so, yeah.... thanks!

nya........... hehe.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-09-01 21:30:37
Yeah, my parents used to think the same thing about anime. I made them watch Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Akira. That at least made them admit it wasn't all "kid's stuff." They still kind of think it's weird tho'...

Nightmare, I hope you get over your cold soon. What always works for me with winter colds is taking a bunch of hot showers, also drinking a lot of tea. Not to mention taking ibuprofen! :P I've never had a summer cold tho' so I don't know if you'd want to be taking hot showers and drinking hot tea when it's sweltering out (or at least it's sweltering where I am x_x).

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by eeekar on 2005-09-01 22:48:45
well, oldcrow, at least you got your parents to understand you... a bit.
Uhm, ibuprofen is for pain.
take phenylpropanolamine instead. ;p


Remember: The things that doesn't kill you makes you stronger...
But you'll be surprised how much a person can live through.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-09-02 02:54:31
Well, nightmare, to answer your question, my 'temple' is messed up for a number of reasons

1. I get into these wild mood swings where I can be angry all the time at one moment, calm the next (usually after I wake up the next day after I was angry the whole day), and then feel so depressed the other times

2. Many people seem to know what they want in their lives and kinda know how to get it. I dont, I dont even really know what I want. I would hear friends at work saying she or he did 'this' and 'that' when their boyfriend or girlfriend came to visit them from overseas, and I would be like "man, i wish I have a gf to do 'this' and 'that' with. Why the f is it always me who misses out on things".

3. My friends all say I cant get my priority straight, I'm content in areas where they aint content and I'm not content in areas which they and many are. Eg. If you are underpaid at your work, you would go and find another job and if it's breaking the law of minimum wage you would complain, right? I dont, I get paid $8 or $10 an hour whereas many of my age gets like $14 an hour, i'm like WAY underpaid but I couldnt care less coz I still have money even if it's below others' pay. But in having a gf and things like that, my friends are content if they have a gf or not but they have always said I act like a desperado or something in trying to have a gf.

4. My mind can never let go of cynical or pessimistic thoughts. If someone looks me the wrong way I think that the person is thinking i'm weird or look like crap. I cant see the light at the end of the tunnel, and even if there is, i think it's an oncoming freight train (I love that joke =) )

Re: The depression thread
Link | by oldcrow on 2005-09-02 10:54:37
Seki, I'm like you then! I don't really care about money, all I ever buy is Anime anyway (oh yea, and Food--when I remember :P). It's interpersonal relationships that are the main thing--or should be.

If people would rather have money than a gf, or just friends in general...I guess it's a sign of how materialistic a lot of the world is.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-09-02 13:46:16
well, by now i dont think i have to explain the drill to you my friends... first off, im all better now...thank you for all your concern!

jomunga: i have NEVER EVER met a person over 21 who liked anime...

oldcrow: thanks for agreeing with me! and not to be rude, but you kinda need food to live....

Old Man Kai: yes, it took me a while to realise that you cannot change the past, you cannot change the world...you must preserve yourself. YOU are the one that is important. do what YOU think is right!

nejigirl: i know it hurts, but you must perservier! "what doth not kill thie, makith thie stronger" if you push trought the pain, you will eventually not even notice it. but just remember. "a man in agony can still sleep, but a man who has caused others pain can never rest" (*scar, Fullmetal Alchemist) that includes yourself! so just dont cut! but yes, we are here to support you! when i needed support, my "web" brothers and sisters caught me before i fell and helped me back on my feet...no im stronger than ever! so bey all means, lean on us! we will help you...if you let us!


Seki: #1wild mood swings are not that uncommon, so dont worry about them! but you may have something called Bipolar. id look into it if i were you... #2 welcome to my world old friend! i just try to block those people out. and if they still wont shut up...well...would YOU want a goth mad at you? heh. #3 i wish i HAD a job, i wish i was ALLOWED to get a job...but its good that you have enough sense to put love before money. It sounds to me like you will make an excelent husband someday!...if you can ever find HER. #4 there is absolutly nothing wrong with being a pessimist, ive been one for years! it helped me realise the truth of the world...the world sucks! so i deal with it. thats all you CAN do. just remember, happyness is an illusion created by the mind to protect itself from the harshness of the world. being a pessimist helps you break through that block.

well, thats all for now... God bless!


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Shiriu on 2005-09-02 14:16:43 (edited 2005-09-02 14:18:04)
nightmare, Seki doesn't have Bipolar disorder, he only feels depression and frustration some times, bipolar disorder has 3 states: depression, hypomania and mania. Had to check the names at google ^^;;

Hypomania: At first when I'm high, it's tremendous… ideas are fast… like shooting stars you follow until brighter ones appear…. All shyness disappears, the right words and gestures are suddenly there… uninteresting people, things become intensely interesting. Sensuality is pervasive, the desire to seduce and be seduced is irresistible. Your marrow is infused with unbelievable feelings of ease, power, well-being, omnipotence, euphoria… you can do anything… but, somewhere this changes.

Mania: The fast ideas become too fast and there are far too many… overwhelming confusion replaces clarity… you stop keeping up with it—memory goes. Infectious humor ceases to amuse. Your friends become frightened…. everything is now against the grain… you are irritable, angry, frightened, uncontrollable, and trapped.


I hope that clears things up :)

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-09-02 16:22:23
OK OK jeese, i know what it is..one of my friends clames to have it...
so naturally, i know what it is....it was just a sugestion!


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-09-02 16:58:33
I did a test online once, a trustworthy site I know. I mean if you are at uni for 3 years you gotta know which sites are fake and which are real. But yeah, I did the depression test and I came as waaaay depressed. There was a scale of depression and I think my one was off the charts. Well, I can keep my depress feelings in check but i'm sure everyone knows how hard that is. I basically have to keep a mask on everyday at uni so I dont make other people upset by seeing me upset. It worked in highschool, but i think all the crap i got is beginning to show. People who knows me sometimes say I look upset all the time, and ya know what, it's typical for many people to think that if someone looks upset then you are the one who that person is upset at. That's stupid but that's one reason why no one approaches me unless they are really nice which is one of my friends in my JP class at uni.
Yeah, it's tiring to keep the mask on, I know coz I sleep at 10pm and wake at 7 but i'm still tired. And I can never sleep past 8 unless I was drinking the nite b4. But even if i let my mask down for just a moment, people dont realise it, they think I'm daydreaming or fazing out. only one person so far manage to see through my masks. Too bad that chick is already going out with another guy and quite in love wif that guy. Just my luck hey?

Re: The depression thread
Link | by goth on 2005-09-02 17:03:48
How are you people I won't write too much because I have nothing important to say. Hope you guys who live in the U.S. enjoy the long weekend! I am not doing anything but when do I my parents don't like it when I am out of the house alone. They are afraid that if I leave I will turn into a druggie but I'm like Mom that won't happen to me. Both my parents are in the medical field and see alot of teen drug user cases. My mom doesn't want me to leave the house because she thinks i am such a slut it's not my fault the hot topic cashier thought I was hot sheesh and he was going to give me a discount dam it!
Well hope you guys have a good weekend and no more cutting its bad my friend did it and it took a while for her to stop so stop now and if you can't get help don't go through this alone. I felt I was alone when I found out I was bi lol! Well later

Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-09-02 17:04:16
oh and Nightmare, you never met someone over 21 who likes anime? I'm 22 and I still like anime. We are the new generation. Not those old farts who thinks anything animated is for kids. Animations is just another way to send to your audiences the message you want them to hear. In an English class in highschool I had to do an assignment in analysing a feature film. Everyone did these well known ones. Guess what I chose? I chose that Pokemon movie with Lugia in it. I didnt do well though coz I rushed through it but I had found so many messages in that movie which is on par with real life movies like Forrest Gump.

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